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Quite the riddle!

Escapist
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Oct 10 2012, 3:17pm


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Quite the riddle! [In reply to] Can't Post

What do you think about this:

If Eru is defined as the good, the source of all good, and goodness itself - and he allows freewill to exist - this automatically creates the possibility not to choose Eru/good and therefore this ... since it is not good - is notgood or "evil".

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How we gonna notice "The Rise of the Necromancer" (possibly spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 11:49am
    Great post, and well thought out DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2012, 11:58am
        Thanks! Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 12:04pm
            Perhaps stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 9 2012, 12:07pm
                Doesn't he controls their minds? Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 12:10pm
                    I assume he could with the Ring DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2012, 12:12pm
                        To be bred or not be bred... that's the question Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 12:19pm
                        maybe elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 10 2012, 1:59pm
                    They had free will stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 9 2012, 12:23pm
                        That Shagrat episode... Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Oct 9 2012, 1:03pm
                            Yes, but orcs are quite different from the book in the movies. // Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 9 2012, 4:52pm
                                orc personalities Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Oct 9 2012, 6:26pm
                            Own personalities YES... following their own goals NO Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 7:19pm
                                You just killed your own theory with some of these orcs stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 10 2012, 12:22pm
                                    Personally I don't see why all the Orcs need to be involved with Sauron to begin with... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 10 2012, 12:39pm
                                        Sauron and Morgoth created them. Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 10 2012, 2:15pm
                                            But being influenced is different from being entirely animated or ruled by the will of another. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 11 2012, 9:21pm
                                                pardon me if I am wrong Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Oct 11 2012, 9:31pm
                                    I think you missed my point... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 10 2012, 2:21pm
                                        I agree 100% ! Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 10 2012, 2:43pm
                                            Yes! Because the dark lords are the incarnation of evil itself... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 10 2012, 2:51pm
                                                That isn't entirely true. Quoth Elrond, "nothing is evil in its beginning. Even Sauron was not so." AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 11 2012, 9:28pm
                                        Why didn't they just say... Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 10 2012, 2:43pm
                                        You're missing the big picture stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 10 2012, 3:01pm
                                            We can see here some of Tolkien's contradictions Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 10 2012, 3:12pm
                                                Quite the riddle! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 10 2012, 3:17pm
                                            Great Post // Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 10 2012, 3:22pm
                                            TALKING of something isn't the same as really DOING something Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 10 2012, 3:33pm
                                                The books aren't about the orcs stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 10 2012, 5:11pm
                                                From Morgoth's Ring stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Oct 10 2012, 5:54pm
                                                The End of All Evil? No. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Oct 10 2012, 7:10pm
                                            Except that Sauron is no mere dictator ! Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 10 2012, 3:36pm
                    And is not fear a way to control a mind? Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Oct 9 2012, 12:58pm
    Very clever observations comandantedavid Send a private message to comandantedavid Oct 9 2012, 2:43pm
        On point Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 9 2012, 3:09pm
        Development within the trilogy Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Oct 9 2012, 3:14pm
            Yes, good thougths and I agree... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Oct 9 2012, 3:29pm
    good post....but MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Oct 10 2012, 3:49am
    A lot of strong points in what you are saying, except for the Khazad-Dum bit. The Balrog, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 10 2012, 4:42am
    I think... Ereinion Nnharma Send a private message to Ereinion Nnharma Oct 11 2012, 9:04am

 
 
 

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