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FarFromHome
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Oct 10 2012, 11:22am
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Where's Darkstone when we need him? He would have much to say about Book Gandalf being pointier than the round and huggy guy we got in the films! I never quite agreed with Darkstone about this (I think that "pointy" book-Gandalf is just engaging in the kind of banter that Brits use to express the "round and huggy" feelings they don't feel allowed to express any other way...), but it's a good point nevertheless.
As for Gandalf the Grey, despite the obsessiveness you mention, he does somehow manage not to check up on that magic ring of Bilbo's for rather a long time...
I'm not sure Gandalf sees himself as a manager at this point, though, but more as a front-line worker. He's like those grumpy old detectives who refuse a desk job (he turned down the nomination to be leader of the White Council, according to the Sil) and seem to spend a lot of time sorting out the messes that management make, and putting their own life on the line to protect the innocent. Or perhaps he's a front-line WWI officer, serving in the trenches. I guess once he returns as the White he's been "promoted", for better or worse. He still insists on putting himself on the line but he now has to make and stand by a lot of far-reaching decisions. I guess he's gone from front-line soldier to general - but he's the ideal general who does know what it's like at the sharp end and isn't afraid to come out and lead from the front.
I agree with you that the movies take what's in the book as the basis for the way Gandalf is portrayed, and make a pretty good job of it. It's true that book-Gandalf would never had hugged book-Frodo, but then book-Frodo was a straight-laced Brit who wouldn't have gone in for hugging anyway. I suppose that makes the breakdown of inhibitions he undergoes on his journey all the more moving, as he learns to accept and be comforted by physical gestures of affection from Sam. Films have a narrower range of conventions available to them, I think, in terms of portraying emotions, unless they have time to focus on them to the exclusion of everything else (which, let's face it, isn't going to happen in an epic adventure!). I think it's a credit to Peter Jackson that the emotional life of the characters was portrayed as faithfully as it was.
They went in, and Sam shut the door.
But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
deep and unstilled,
the sigh and murmur of the Sea upon the shores of Middle-earth.
From the unpublished Epilogue to the Lord of the Rings
(This post was edited by FarFromHome on Oct 10 2012, 11:27am)
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Gandalf The Grey Versus The White
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JWPlatt
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Oct 8 2012, 2:28am
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About Gandy-
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Ring-Bearer
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Oct 8 2012, 2:57am
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The difference is pretty obvious imo.
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Spaldron
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Oct 8 2012, 2:48pm
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Specifics
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JWPlatt
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Oct 8 2012, 5:40pm
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In Merry's own words (fro the books):
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Túrin_Turambar
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Oct 9 2012, 2:47am
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More hasty
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Lausus
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Oct 8 2012, 10:18pm
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Not all knowing versus enlightened...
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weaver
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Oct 9 2012, 4:10am
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Well said, Weaver!
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Ring-Bearer
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Oct 9 2012, 4:17am
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Seconded!
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FarFromHome
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Oct 9 2012, 10:07am
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yep, I was only focusing on the films in my analysis...
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weaver
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Oct 10 2012, 3:04am
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I miss him too...
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FarFromHome
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Oct 10 2012, 11:22am
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I like your "promotion" analogy...
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weaver
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Oct 11 2012, 3:22am
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glad you got past all my typos!
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weaver
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Oct 10 2012, 3:06am
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Both Grey and White insult Pippin
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stoutfiles
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Oct 10 2012, 12:45pm
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agreed...
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weaver
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Oct 11 2012, 3:18am
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I din´t see that either
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Oct 9 2012, 2:04pm
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I always find the most striking difference between the two
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Elenorflower
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Oct 10 2012, 3:31pm
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