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sador
Half-elven
Oct 10 2012, 8:48am
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Thank you! I’m convinced by the carving-plumbing argument Yeah, it's a good one - despite my own tongue-in-cheek response there. In this chapter, Bilbo takes the Arkenstone without telling anyone and receives his gift of a mithril coat. Please feel free to comment on these incidents Well, I've led this chapter on the last time we've discussed it - and commented on both. the Arkenstone and the mithril coat. Are such proverbial sayings just things people say, like clichés, without thinking much about their meaning? Possibly, but it is nice that Bilbo qualifies it with the saying not coming from personal experience. Do they have any special significance in Bilbo’s situations? Usually. Why is it always his father’s sayings that he remembers? Ah - this is another thing I've discussed! How is Bilbo’s character developing in these adventures? Personally, I think taking the Arkenstone 'for later' is morally his low point, which he won't redeem until the end of A Thief in the Night when he returns to Bombur, accepting responsibility for his gift to Bard (had he not returned, it would have been pure betrayal and cutting himself the best deal). And coming on top of it, the first time Thorin speaks in the treasury is to offer Bilbo his first reward! Wow! That is all I can say. Splintered light...great jewel...no such gem in all the world....Comments? A Silmaril? Morthoron asked about this only last week. And dernwyn discussed this possibility in the thread about the Arkenstone I've linked to above. Where on earth do they think Smaug is – or are they thinking clearly? At the moment they aren't. They have come home, and into a great hoard. You wouldn't be thinking clearly yourself under such circumstances (neither would I). Do you remember your feelings at this point in your first reading? No. What are your views on the mood of “Not at Home” and its juxtapositioning with the “Fire and Water” chapter? As Tolkien will say in the next chapter, the tension is unbearable - for the reader, who is not subject to the Dwarves feelings; there is only so much that words can convey! But perhaps in the films it will work better.
"Bard is known as someone who forebodes gloomy things like floods and poisoned fish. Floods I can see, but poisoned fish? How and why would Bard forebode poisoned fish? Or is this just a slander against Bard?" - Curious The weekly discussion of The Hobbit is back. Join us in the Reading Room for Fire and Water!
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***A glance back at "Not at Home"***
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Modtheow
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Oct 9 2012, 12:20am
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Proverbs
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Finding Frodo
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Oct 9 2012, 3:37am
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That dropped torch!
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dernwyn
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Oct 10 2012, 2:14am
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Keep calm and carry on
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telain
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Oct 10 2012, 4:07pm
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The Stone and the Ring
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justbennett
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Oct 9 2012, 4:57am
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What about his mother's wisdom?
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Modtheow
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Oct 10 2012, 3:10am
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Tolkien hates women (just kidding!)
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CuriousG
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Oct 10 2012, 11:34pm
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I know what you mean...
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telain
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Oct 10 2012, 3:59pm
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What a great idea!
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sador
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Oct 10 2012, 8:48am
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In Bilbo's Defense
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justbennett
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Oct 10 2012, 5:31pm
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one link not working
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Modtheow
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Oct 14 2012, 8:21pm
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Is it supposed to be this one?
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dernwyn
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Oct 14 2012, 11:43pm
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Yes, that's it.
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sador
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Oct 15 2012, 7:51am
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You're welcome!
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dernwyn
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Oct 17 2012, 1:55am
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