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I don't know what Shore will do

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Oct 9 2012, 7:26pm


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I don't know what Shore will do [In reply to] Can't Post
and I don't know, precisely, how the collaboration process worked for LOTR. I'm only considering what happened for LOTR and not any other movie that Shore has written for.

I posted a list of the main 'songs' (other than score singing) that were used in LOTR. Of them, Enya and Roma wrote the two songs Enya did. Shore was not involved at all.

Into The West shared 'music and lyrics' credit between Annie, Howard and Fran. In Dreams shared 'music and lyrics' credit between Fran and Howard. I haven't seen any breakdown about who contributed what in what percentage but I wouldn't think Fran contributed greatly to the melody... although, perhaps she had a tune running through her head and thus she did contribute greatly. Annie might have contributed more to Into the West but both tunes incorporated major themes heard in the score. Those must have been primarily Shore's doing.

I know that the standard for most end of movies songs is that the music is really developed by the artist/s and dropped into the movie - perhaps with no real input or collaboration with the score's composers. But that wasn't the case with LOTR (except for Enya and the diegetic music).

In Dreams, Gollum's Song, and Into the West all pulled from themes heard throughout the score. That isn't (usually?) the case with standard end of the movies songs. Just going on what I know about LOTR, I'd say that Shore will either compose the melody or work in collaboration with Neil. And, I think it matters to everyone, filmmakers and fans alike, that the words are apt and pertinent to the story. That would be harder for a non-Tolkien fan/scholar/aficionadoto to do. Fran and Philippa wrote a lot of lyrics for the score. I think it matters to them.

But, as I said, they may go a different direction for The Hobbit. Great care has been taken to tie this trilogy into the LOTR trilogy. But it's also 10 Years After (got to throw that old rock reference in there). Some things in regards to The Hobbit *are* different than LOTR. And the end of the movie song is part of the 'music' of the movie but it's also a marketing tool. So, I guess we just wait and see.

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Neil Finn of 'Crowded House' provides the end title song for An Unexpected Journey News from Bree Send a private message to News from Bree Oct 8 2012, 5:27pm
    I can live with this jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Oct 8 2012, 11:19pm
    He's a very good lyracist. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Oct 8 2012, 11:31pm
    I prefer female vocalists. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 8 2012, 11:32pm
        Yes, I agree on both points. Patty Send a private message to Patty Oct 9 2012, 1:02pm
    could be worse... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 8 2012, 11:33pm
    Yes! There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Oct 8 2012, 11:43pm
    I hope he's familiar with the book. Must be exiting for him ! // Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Oct 8 2012, 11:43pm
    Just change the lyrics from "Shark Attack" to "Orc Attack" ... or ... Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Oct 9 2012, 12:08am
        "What more can a poor Dwarf do?" / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Oct 9 2012, 12:41am
    Awesome! Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Oct 9 2012, 12:42am
    Yay! I think many of us felt/hoped this would happen, so nice to see it...happen! Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Oct 9 2012, 2:05am
    Woot! "Hey now, Heeey now, Don't dream it's over. . ." AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 9 2012, 2:46am
        Interesting choice Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Oct 9 2012, 3:15am
            Very true. I am AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 9 2012, 3:30am
            I think he'll be great he has a very smooth likable voice// Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 9 2012, 3:31am
            Interesting Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Oct 9 2012, 4:00am
                lyrics & music Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 9 2012, 4:13am
                You had the wrong Annie Lennox song in mind. As someone who loved her AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 9 2012, 4:59am
    I've never heard him, nor of him, before Earl Send a private message to Earl Oct 9 2012, 3:53am
    Haha Neil Finn Probably would've made a fine Bilbo... squitzl Send a private message to squitzl Oct 9 2012, 4:06am
    No idea who he is? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2012, 7:05am
        Then watch this Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 9 2012, 8:11am
            *Prepares to duck* DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 9 2012, 9:17am
                Well Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 9 2012, 9:52am
            This led to an acoustic of Don't Dream It's Over Tim Send a private message to Tim Oct 9 2012, 3:40pm
            Johnny Marr? Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Oct 10 2012, 12:48am
                Yep, and Eddie Vedder, Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 10 2012, 7:29am
                    7 worlds collide Padfoot Send a private message to Padfoot Oct 10 2012, 7:59am
                        Agree with everyone else tolktolk Send a private message to tolktolk Oct 10 2012, 8:19am
                            Haha Padfoot Send a private message to Padfoot Oct 10 2012, 8:52am
        Just go to youtube and pull up Don't Dream it's over by Crowded House AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 10 2012, 12:20am
    Fine choice... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Oct 9 2012, 10:24am
    That's cool burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Oct 9 2012, 12:21pm
    Great Choice! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Oct 9 2012, 2:41pm
    Wonderful if true Bound Send a private message to Bound Oct 9 2012, 3:57pm
    "You ain't heard nothin' yet!" Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 9 2012, 5:34pm
        Will Howard Shore collaborate with him ? Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Oct 9 2012, 6:18pm
            I don't know what Shore will do Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 9 2012, 7:26pm
                Thanks to the link to Doug's blog! Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Oct 10 2012, 5:39am
                    Neil Finn & the Hobbit Padfoot Send a private message to Padfoot Oct 10 2012, 7:25am
    It's kind of funny though... Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Oct 9 2012, 9:39pm
        That is so funny, Snaga. :D Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Oct 9 2012, 11:04pm
        Lol Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Oct 10 2012, 5:16am
            not to nit pick Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 10 2012, 1:40pm
                They are Australian... // painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Oct 10 2012, 2:42pm
                    Ah painjoiker, Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Oct 10 2012, 6:34pm
                        Ataahua, you beat me to it Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 10 2012, 7:15pm
                            Crowded House are still around!! slowpogo Send a private message to slowpogo Oct 11 2012, 2:11pm
                                Good on you for delurking! Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Oct 11 2012, 6:25pm
                                Welcome, and of course you are right Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 11 2012, 7:07pm
                                    Thanks y'all slowpogo Send a private message to slowpogo Oct 11 2012, 7:32pm
                                        Thanks for the reviews Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 12 2012, 1:57am
                                            Liam slowpogo Send a private message to slowpogo Oct 12 2012, 3:04am
                                                We might have to agree to disagree Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 12 2012, 3:44am
                *blush* Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Oct 10 2012, 4:55pm
                    well U2 was originally Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Oct 10 2012, 5:11pm
                        Going completely OT here....:) Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Oct 11 2012, 3:57am
        There were two lead singers in Split Enz Starling Send a private message to Starling Oct 10 2012, 9:20am
    he does have honeyed tones Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Oct 9 2012, 10:13pm
    Liz Fraser mandel Send a private message to mandel Oct 9 2012, 11:32pm
    That's too bad sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Oct 11 2012, 11:02pm

 
 
 

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