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Fàfnir
Lorien

Oct 9 2012, 4:52pm
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Yes, but orcs are quite different from the book in the movies. //
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Any sign of intelligence, free will or personality have been deleted from the book. Orc dialogues and intrigues are delightful in the books, but maybe making the orcs too human would have make the movie too hard for children, since tens of them are killed every minute. That's maybe why they portrayed them as brainless cannibalistic psychos.
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How we gonna notice "The Rise of the Necromancer" (possibly spoilers)
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 11:49am
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Great post, and well thought out
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DanielLB
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Oct 9 2012, 11:58am
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Thanks!
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 12:04pm
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Perhaps
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stoutfiles
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Oct 9 2012, 12:07pm
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Doesn't he controls their minds?
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 12:10pm
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I assume he could with the Ring
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DanielLB
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Oct 9 2012, 12:12pm
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To be bred or not be bred... that's the question
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 12:19pm
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maybe
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elevorn
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Oct 10 2012, 1:59pm
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They had free will
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stoutfiles
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Oct 9 2012, 12:23pm
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That Shagrat episode...
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isaac
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Oct 9 2012, 1:03pm
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Yes, but orcs are quite different from the book in the movies. //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 9 2012, 4:52pm
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orc personalities
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Mooseboy018
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Oct 9 2012, 6:26pm
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Own personalities YES... following their own goals NO
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 7:19pm
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You just killed your own theory with some of these orcs
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stoutfiles
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Oct 10 2012, 12:22pm
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Personally I don't see why all the Orcs need to be involved with Sauron to begin with...
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sinister71
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Oct 10 2012, 12:39pm
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Sauron and Morgoth created them.
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Fàfnir
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Oct 10 2012, 2:15pm
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But being influenced is different from being entirely animated or ruled by the will of another.
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AinurOlorin
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Oct 11 2012, 9:21pm
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pardon me if I am wrong
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Elenorflower
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Oct 11 2012, 9:31pm
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I think you missed my point...
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 10 2012, 2:21pm
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I agree 100% !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 10 2012, 2:43pm
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Yes! Because the dark lords are the incarnation of evil itself...
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 10 2012, 2:51pm
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That isn't entirely true. Quoth Elrond, "nothing is evil in its beginning. Even Sauron was not so."
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AinurOlorin
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Oct 11 2012, 9:28pm
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Why didn't they just say...
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 10 2012, 2:43pm
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You're missing the big picture
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stoutfiles
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Oct 10 2012, 3:01pm
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We can see here some of Tolkien's contradictions
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Fàfnir
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Oct 10 2012, 3:12pm
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Quite the riddle!
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Escapist
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Oct 10 2012, 3:17pm
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Great Post //
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sinister71
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Oct 10 2012, 3:22pm
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TALKING of something isn't the same as really DOING something
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 10 2012, 3:33pm
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The books aren't about the orcs
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stoutfiles
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Oct 10 2012, 5:11pm
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From Morgoth's Ring
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stoutfiles
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Oct 10 2012, 5:54pm
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The End of All Evil? No.
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 10 2012, 7:10pm
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Except that Sauron is no mere dictator !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 10 2012, 3:36pm
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And is not fear a way to control a mind?
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isaac
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Oct 9 2012, 12:58pm
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Very clever observations
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comandantedavid
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Oct 9 2012, 2:43pm
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On point
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Elessar
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Oct 9 2012, 3:09pm
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Development within the trilogy
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 9 2012, 3:14pm
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Yes, good thougths and I agree...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 9 2012, 3:29pm
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good post....but
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MouthofSauron
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Oct 10 2012, 3:49am
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A lot of strong points in what you are saying, except for the Khazad-Dum bit. The Balrog,
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AinurOlorin
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Oct 10 2012, 4:42am
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I think...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Oct 11 2012, 9:04am
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