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Fardragon
Rohan
Oct 6 2012, 8:10am
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I think it's unlikely that Smaug can die in film 2, since this would provide too much closure - people unfamiliar with the book would go "the dragon is dead - why bother with the next film? I think DoS will end with Smaug smashing the mountainside and sealing the dwarves and Bilbo inside. Yes, I believe the second film deviate from LotR and end with a cliff hanger. Hence film 3 being only 6 months later, rather than the usual 12. As for the Dol Guldur sub-plot, I don't believe there will be any "second white council meeting". The meeting in the first film will end with Saruman vetoing any direct action. Gandalf will then decide to go it alone, heading to Dol Guldur after leaving the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood. Gandalf will get into trouble in Dol Guldur, and his friends* will turn up to save him, leading to the battle. *friends may include: Galadriel Elrond Radagast Beorn Legolas Tauriel One or more companies of Elves.
A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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My guess: Desolation of Smaug "where the action is"
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macfalk
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Oct 5 2012, 4:34pm
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And no so much action afterwards !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:00pm
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The *spoilers*
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:08pm
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Yeah it's a big probability
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:23pm
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I don't think so
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 5:50pm
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The geo-political build-up
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:03pm
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but but but but but
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:10pm
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good point
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:24am
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Not so much action?
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ryanw8
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Oct 5 2012, 5:11pm
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Smaug must be in film 2, his name is in the title
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:15pm
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Agreed DoS will have much more going on than AUJ...however, based on what we know, I'd see something more akin to this unfolding:
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:07pm
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I really think you are loading a bit too much on "There and Back Again".
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:16pm
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I thought so as well until recently...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:26pm
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Not necessarily
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 5 2012, 10:57pm
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You know that LotR was structured on climaxes. I don't expect these to be different
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GoodGuyA
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Oct 6 2012, 4:15am
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I agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:52am
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No Smaug in Desolation of Smaug ?
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:27pm
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Yes, it is a conundrum...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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I like your plot development
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:18am
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This looks pretty good to me!
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Buchanicus
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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It all comes down to the Dol Guldur subplot
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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Agreed Barrels out of Bond would have been/could be a great climatic sequence. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:42pm
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personally it seemed a little lame
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:06pm
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Agreed
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 5 2012, 9:48pm
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Climax
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Ardamírë
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Oct 5 2012, 10:07pm
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What I think...
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Lost Hobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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The only problem with the climax of DOS being the barrel escape is ...
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:12pm
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Correct, I don't expect it to be the end of Film 2...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 6:18pm
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Wait !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 6:21pm
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As said above, I don't think anyone's suggesting an entire movie set in Mirkwood. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 7:08pm
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Oh right, I hadn't read the title of your post. Sorry ! //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 7:30pm
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We know PJ loves to Start with Big Bang!
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 5:48pm
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Dol Guldur
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:21am
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Yes I agree
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burgahobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 6:45pm
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Personally
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:29am
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I think that people will expect it
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burgahobbit
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Oct 8 2012, 7:02pm
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My bet : we meet Smaug in TDOS and he dies in film 3.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 5 2012, 7:01pm
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This is what I think as well.
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Carne
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Oct 5 2012, 10:41pm
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I so love the Idea of our Dwarves diving into
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:12pm
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me too Bombadil
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 11:22pm
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Thank you T&TA?
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:55pm
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I agree.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:10am
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It works both ways though
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:17am
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There is lots to fit into DoS though
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:33am
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Oh, I agree about that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:40am
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It's certainly problamatic
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:44am
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I could probably accept that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:47am
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Just out of interest, was this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 9:10am
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I'm sure is was a worry for PJ, yes.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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Good question LR
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:08am
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I understand - and agree
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 10:30am
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Well, PJ engineers mini-climaxes near the end of FotR and TT
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 12:15pm
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Good point
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Fàfnir
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Oct 6 2012, 12:50pm
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Smaug's wrath on the mountainside...
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:10pm
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The Last Homely House storytime
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:14pm
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If you look at PJ's directing style
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 7:55pm
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I don't agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 11:19am
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Well, if Smaug dies in film 2
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:14am
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Smaug dieing in film 2.
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Briza
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Oct 6 2012, 10:06am
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Dol Guldur and Smaug
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:11am
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You begin and end on the most important point
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 11:40am
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I agree, but I think they will leave Smaug´s death for film 3
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elostirion74
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Oct 5 2012, 7:28pm
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Of course, it is possible even Jackson don't when DOS will end. //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 10:58pm
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The Two Towers ended with
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Plurmo
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Oct 6 2012, 1:31am
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This looks like a good way to do it...
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 6 2012, 1:51am
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Yup
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 6 2012, 5:05am
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I know the story outline of DOS
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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