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GoodGuyA
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Oct 6 2012, 4:15am
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You know that LotR was structured on climaxes. I don't expect these to be different
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It is, in the end, and action movie whether you think that's proper or not. The first movie is all ready set to end on an exciting moment, perhaps with some gradual resolution at the end, but still in the midst of an exciting and pounding moment. The difference here, I suppose, is that the stakes are set far lower. No one even gets any bit hurt in this scene, just a little flustered, which is likely to carry through to the next film as well, but not ending on a literal nothing. People all ready complain that LotR is nothing but walking to a mountain. This would just fuel the flames. What I'm thinking is that we will end after Smaug buries the crew. Two main reasons: It's an exciting cliffhanger, and the next movie is set up brilliantly. Think about this. Prologue - Dale. The idealistic place of all races communing as one to a greater urpose. No desolation to be seen across the landscape, and Bard's ancestor rulin justly over his people. Suddenly, a shadow appears above, and the people look in horror as they recognize the figure of the great dragon, Smaug. They run, but cannot escape the relentless onslaught of the creature, watching in horror as their town is burned to ash. Cuts upon a crescendo to Laketown, now in the midst of the same situation, with Bard now frantically trying to get a view of the creature. They watch as the same terror inflicts them, and many flee across the shore in boats as they lament upon what has befallen them. And then we know how the rest turns out But would that not be a beautiful parallel? Could rival RotK's prologue, if they did it in a somewhat similar manner. The action scene becomes immediately identifiable and relevant to the audience, who will think that the town was to suffer the same fate. All the while you wonder about our heroes, and once the dragon falls, you return to them for a recap and then discovery of the treasure.
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My guess: Desolation of Smaug "where the action is"
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macfalk
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Oct 5 2012, 4:34pm
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And no so much action afterwards !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:00pm
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The *spoilers*
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:08pm
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Yeah it's a big probability
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:23pm
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I don't think so
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 5:50pm
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The geo-political build-up
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:03pm
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but but but but but
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:10pm
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good point
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:24am
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Not so much action?
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ryanw8
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Oct 5 2012, 5:11pm
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Smaug must be in film 2, his name is in the title
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:15pm
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Agreed DoS will have much more going on than AUJ...however, based on what we know, I'd see something more akin to this unfolding:
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:07pm
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I really think you are loading a bit too much on "There and Back Again".
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:16pm
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I thought so as well until recently...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:26pm
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Not necessarily
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 5 2012, 10:57pm
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You know that LotR was structured on climaxes. I don't expect these to be different
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GoodGuyA
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Oct 6 2012, 4:15am
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I agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:52am
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No Smaug in Desolation of Smaug ?
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:27pm
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Yes, it is a conundrum...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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I like your plot development
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:18am
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This looks pretty good to me!
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Buchanicus
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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It all comes down to the Dol Guldur subplot
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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Agreed Barrels out of Bond would have been/could be a great climatic sequence. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:42pm
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personally it seemed a little lame
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:06pm
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Agreed
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 5 2012, 9:48pm
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Climax
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Ardamírë
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Oct 5 2012, 10:07pm
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What I think...
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Lost Hobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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The only problem with the climax of DOS being the barrel escape is ...
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:12pm
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Correct, I don't expect it to be the end of Film 2...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 6:18pm
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Wait !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 6:21pm
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As said above, I don't think anyone's suggesting an entire movie set in Mirkwood. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 7:08pm
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Oh right, I hadn't read the title of your post. Sorry ! //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 7:30pm
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We know PJ loves to Start with Big Bang!
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 5:48pm
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Dol Guldur
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:21am
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Yes I agree
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burgahobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 6:45pm
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Personally
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:29am
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I think that people will expect it
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burgahobbit
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Oct 8 2012, 7:02pm
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My bet : we meet Smaug in TDOS and he dies in film 3.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 5 2012, 7:01pm
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This is what I think as well.
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Carne
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Oct 5 2012, 10:41pm
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I so love the Idea of our Dwarves diving into
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:12pm
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me too Bombadil
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 11:22pm
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Thank you T&TA?
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:55pm
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I agree.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:10am
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It works both ways though
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:17am
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There is lots to fit into DoS though
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:33am
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Oh, I agree about that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:40am
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It's certainly problamatic
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:44am
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I could probably accept that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:47am
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Just out of interest, was this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 9:10am
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I'm sure is was a worry for PJ, yes.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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Good question LR
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:08am
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I understand - and agree
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 10:30am
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Well, PJ engineers mini-climaxes near the end of FotR and TT
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 12:15pm
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Good point
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Fàfnir
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Oct 6 2012, 12:50pm
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Smaug's wrath on the mountainside...
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:10pm
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The Last Homely House storytime
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:14pm
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If you look at PJ's directing style
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 7:55pm
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I don't agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 11:19am
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Well, if Smaug dies in film 2
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:14am
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Smaug dieing in film 2.
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Briza
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Oct 6 2012, 10:06am
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Dol Guldur and Smaug
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:11am
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You begin and end on the most important point
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 11:40am
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I agree, but I think they will leave Smaug´s death for film 3
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elostirion74
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Oct 5 2012, 7:28pm
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Of course, it is possible even Jackson don't when DOS will end. //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 10:58pm
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The Two Towers ended with
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Plurmo
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Oct 6 2012, 1:31am
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This looks like a good way to do it...
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 6 2012, 1:51am
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Yup
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 6 2012, 5:05am
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I know the story outline of DOS
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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