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There&ThereAgain
Rohan
Oct 5 2012, 5:50pm
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Smaug's death might not be the climax because like most of us reading The Hobbit, we all thought it would be the end of Bilbo's (and the dwarves') adventure and that is not the case. It would very bizarre with what I know now to have Smaug's death to be the end. Where's the narrative push to the next act (film!) in his death. Smaug's death serves the purpose to set the forces of middle-earth to the Lonely Mountain in pursuit of the Dragon's Hoard. Smaug's death works better as an opener, setting up the Battle of Five Armies.
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien "Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas
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My guess: Desolation of Smaug "where the action is"
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macfalk
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Oct 5 2012, 4:34pm
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And no so much action afterwards !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:00pm
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The *spoilers*
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:08pm
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Yeah it's a big probability
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:23pm
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I don't think so
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 5:50pm
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The geo-political build-up
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:03pm
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but but but but but
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:10pm
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good point
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:24am
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Not so much action?
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ryanw8
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Oct 5 2012, 5:11pm
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Smaug must be in film 2, his name is in the title
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:15pm
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Agreed DoS will have much more going on than AUJ...however, based on what we know, I'd see something more akin to this unfolding:
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:07pm
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I really think you are loading a bit too much on "There and Back Again".
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Kangi Ska
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Oct 5 2012, 5:16pm
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I thought so as well until recently...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:26pm
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Not necessarily
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 5 2012, 10:57pm
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You know that LotR was structured on climaxes. I don't expect these to be different
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GoodGuyA
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Oct 6 2012, 4:15am
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I agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:52am
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No Smaug in Desolation of Smaug ?
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 5:27pm
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Yes, it is a conundrum...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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I like your plot development
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:18am
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This looks pretty good to me!
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Buchanicus
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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It all comes down to the Dol Guldur subplot
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 5:33pm
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Agreed Barrels out of Bond would have been/could be a great climatic sequence. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 5:42pm
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personally it seemed a little lame
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 6:06pm
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Agreed
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 5 2012, 9:48pm
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Climax
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Ardamírë
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Oct 5 2012, 10:07pm
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What I think...
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Lost Hobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 10:17pm
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The only problem with the climax of DOS being the barrel escape is ...
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DanielLB
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Oct 5 2012, 6:12pm
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Correct, I don't expect it to be the end of Film 2...
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 6:18pm
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Wait !
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 6:21pm
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As said above, I don't think anyone's suggesting an entire movie set in Mirkwood. //
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Captain Salt
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Oct 5 2012, 7:08pm
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Oh right, I hadn't read the title of your post. Sorry ! //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 7:30pm
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We know PJ loves to Start with Big Bang!
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 5:48pm
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Dol Guldur
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:21am
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Yes I agree
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burgahobbit
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Oct 5 2012, 6:45pm
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Personally
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 10:29am
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I think that people will expect it
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burgahobbit
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Oct 8 2012, 7:02pm
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My bet : we meet Smaug in TDOS and he dies in film 3.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 5 2012, 7:01pm
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This is what I think as well.
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Carne
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Oct 5 2012, 10:41pm
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I so love the Idea of our Dwarves diving into
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:12pm
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me too Bombadil
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 5 2012, 11:22pm
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Thank you T&TA?
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Bombadil
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Oct 5 2012, 11:55pm
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I agree.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:10am
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It works both ways though
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:17am
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There is lots to fit into DoS though
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:33am
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Oh, I agree about that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:40am
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It's certainly problamatic
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 8:44am
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I could probably accept that
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 8:47am
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Just out of interest, was this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 9:10am
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I'm sure is was a worry for PJ, yes.
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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Good question LR
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:08am
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I understand - and agree
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 6 2012, 10:30am
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Well, PJ engineers mini-climaxes near the end of FotR and TT
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 12:15pm
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Good point
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Fàfnir
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Oct 6 2012, 12:50pm
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Smaug's wrath on the mountainside...
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:10pm
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The Last Homely House storytime
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totoro
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Oct 6 2012, 6:14pm
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If you look at PJ's directing style
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 7:55pm
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I don't agree
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redgiraffe
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Oct 8 2012, 11:19am
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Well, if Smaug dies in film 2
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 9:14am
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Smaug dieing in film 2.
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Briza
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Oct 6 2012, 10:06am
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Dol Guldur and Smaug
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DanielLB
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Oct 6 2012, 10:11am
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You begin and end on the most important point
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Fardragon
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Oct 6 2012, 11:40am
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I agree, but I think they will leave Smaug´s death for film 3
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elostirion74
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Oct 5 2012, 7:28pm
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Of course, it is possible even Jackson don't when DOS will end. //
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Fàfnir
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Oct 5 2012, 10:58pm
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The Two Towers ended with
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Plurmo
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Oct 6 2012, 1:31am
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This looks like a good way to do it...
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 6 2012, 1:51am
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Yup
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 6 2012, 5:05am
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I know the story outline of DOS
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 6 2012, 9:15am
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