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Thank you, Xanaseb!


Oct 3 2012, 6:14pm

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Thank you, Xanaseb! [In reply to] Can't Post

I apologize if I steered you into a SCOD image that you would not have used otherwise. I was just trying to avoid jumping the gun the way I have in the past. Anyway, I like the selection and thank you for hosting it.

The contrast with the quote you offered from the book is exactly what I was interested in. Scenes that are close recreations from the book, but with a few key differences, sometimes serve as a Rosetta Stone for looking at how the movie has a different vision of the story. I view this scene, along with the passing of the Argonath, as especially vivid markers of the way Aragorn’s story is told in a different literary style.

There is more going on here than Aragorn’s acceptance of his kingship or the absence of Anduril. The emphasis in the film is on realism – realism as a style choice. Movie Aragorn, with a realistic assessment of the situation, commits to unflagging quiet diplomacy that is humble and soft-spoken. (I note that Eomer’s concerns are entirely legitimate for a Third Marshall of the Mark.) As I watch, if I imagine Aragorn issuing a grandiose ultimatum, I think the realistic outcome would be bloodshed and more heads on pikes. As filmed, Aragorn’s ‘gentle speech’ de-escalates the situation. Weaver is exactly right about the effect of invoking King Theoden’s name in friendship.

The book version of Aragorn depicts him more like an epic hero, such as Beowulf or Odysseus - someone more able to pull off the razzle dazzle and get away with it. I wonder if part of the reason for not going that route in the movies is that he might seem stylistically out of synch with his companions. [acknowledgements to dijomaja] At any rate, I think taking away these epic moments from film Aragorn eliminates the risk of obscuring the elements that make him truly worthy of kingship with something that might come across as a lacquered-on air of superiority and entitlement.

I agree with Shelob’s Appetite about the appearance of the Rohirrim being near-perfection. The details that convey Rohan as a culture are exquisite. The story-telling that PJ employs to engage us with the people of Rohan is some of his best work, I think. The look, the feel, the sound, the performances – everything works together almost flawlessly, at least from the burning of the Westfold to the departure to Helm’s Deep.

Thanks again, Xanaseb!

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SCOD: Éomer and Aragorn conversing Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Oct 1 2012, 5:02pm
    Ah, excellent questions. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Oct 1 2012, 5:50pm
    The Rohirrim Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 10:20pm
    In the film Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Oct 2 2012, 9:17am
    lots of subtle things going on here... weaver Send a private message to weaver Oct 2 2012, 5:48pm
    The hands and voice of a healer Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Oct 3 2012, 5:07pm
    Thank you, Xanaseb! Harold.of.Whoa Send a private message to Harold.of.Whoa Oct 3 2012, 6:14pm
    Sometimes Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Oct 12 2012, 6:57am


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