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yep, group therapy can be a good thing!

weaver
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Oct 1 2012, 10:53pm


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When the LOTR films came out, I had some very long and ongoing discussions with some folks who have since faded away (anyone remember merryk?) who very much needed and wanted to process things in the films that did not work for them for one reason or another. While she never was "converted" into views that were contrary to her own, I think it did help her to talk about it and it made me really think harder and deeper about why the things that did not work for her worked for me. Those kinds of discussions I readily engage in and am looking forward to doing that once we have an actual Hobbit film out there to talk about.

Overall, I do have a lot of empathy for folks who just were not satisfied, for whatever reason, with Jackson's approach to the Tale. I saw Bakshi's LOTR in theaters and remember to this day how profoundly disappointing that experience was for me. I am sure had the Internet been around then that I would have gone looking for someplace to talk about how I felt, and what I would have rather seen, and that would have really helped.

I have less sympathy, though, when expressing disappointment is couched in a way that seems to infer (to me, anyway, and whether the attempt was deliberate or not on the part of the poster) that I am somehow missing the point or settling for less because the Jackson films worked for me. Preferring a different film style or approach is one thing, but that does not equate, in my book, to the films we got being bad or the film makers who made them being terrible, and it's harder for me to want to talk to someone about their troubles with the films when the debate evokes that kind of response from me.

My wish for those, like you, who did not get the LOTR film they wanted is that one day you do -- if you love Tolkien, that's an experience that is most definitely worth having. And I also think it would be great for Peter Jackson and company to have another film version some day to which the current films can be compared, so that they could be seen in some kind of perspective. Right now, he's the only game in town, and that's a hard spot sometimes, I think.

My two cents, anyway!

Weaver


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What Specifically... elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 1 2012, 2:58pm
    It could be even more interesting to hold a separate discussion posing the flip side of your question Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 1 2012, 3:07pm
        Good point! elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 1 2012, 3:18pm
            Wait a second Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 10:30pm
                Yes I did elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 2 2012, 1:31pm
        Where is that *mods up* button??? Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Oct 1 2012, 5:00pm
        Understood Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 10:26pm
            This reminds me of some advice about whether or not to marry a guy Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 1 2012, 10:33pm
                Thanks Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 10:45pm
            yep, group therapy can be a good thing! weaver Send a private message to weaver Oct 1 2012, 10:53pm
    I'm going to give you a really mundane answer, sorry... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 1 2012, 3:26pm
        quite alright elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 1 2012, 3:37pm
            I think you just have to try and ignore the negativity DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 1 2012, 3:44pm
                picking up threads from both of your responses Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 1 2012, 5:07pm
                    Dead on right! elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 1 2012, 9:20pm
                        just remember... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 1 2012, 9:49pm
                            wise words Magpie Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Oct 2 2012, 1:19pm
                    IMO, that's a tad unfair Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 10:42pm
                        It's just different personalities of course Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Oct 1 2012, 11:04pm
                            The key difference is Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 11:12pm
                                Well no I understand that Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Oct 1 2012, 11:22pm
                                    Got it - one point of clarification, though Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 11:28pm
                    That's a book I would defintely buy and read! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 1 2012, 10:54pm
                        how shocked would you be... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 1 2012, 11:52pm
                            Given that Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 2 2012, 12:28am
                                lol... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Oct 2 2012, 12:32am
                                    On the contrary Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 2 2012, 1:04am
                    This is an excellent way to put it, Magpie Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 11:11pm
                        apologies elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 2 2012, 1:42pm
                            No worries at all, elevorn! Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 2 2012, 4:50pm
                                My thoughts (short to semi-short) Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 2 2012, 6:46pm
                                    Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 5 2012, 5:06am
                                        Yup Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 5 2012, 11:05am
                a visit to one of these places is a good cure for negativity! weaver Send a private message to weaver Oct 1 2012, 9:21pm
            "...if you hated the first set from PJ, please don't go see this next set because you will only hate it more..." Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Oct 1 2012, 10:01pm
                opportunity cost Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 1 2012, 10:10pm
                    True; No one can have everything and see every movie. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Oct 1 2012, 10:50pm
                        Editing time went out. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Oct 1 2012, 11:23pm
                            Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Oct 1 2012, 11:29pm
                oh I know elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Oct 2 2012, 1:25pm
    The LOTR films did a lot to rekindle my interest in Tolkien... weaver Send a private message to weaver Oct 1 2012, 4:27pm
    hmmm elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Oct 1 2012, 8:37pm
    Specifically? That would be Aragorn's personality. Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Oct 2 2012, 2:12am

 
 
 

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