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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea
Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm
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Could one of the considerations for the split/pushing a great deal of AUJ back be effects deadlines? Most of the CGI in the trailer looked like a work-in-progress; they're going to be hard pressed to perfect everything in what's ended up as Film 1 (Trolls, a bit of the Spiders, Radagast's menagerie, the Goblins/Goblin-town, Wargs, Stone Giants, Gollum, digital matte paintings and set extensions ETC), before December. It seems possible that PJ and CO. were faced with a choice; either delay Film 1 (again), release an unfinished film, or push a lot of the heavy effects work back to Film 2. I don't think this was the major factor in the trilogy decision, but it may have been one, IMO.
My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit" 5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck 4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot 3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan 2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate 1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
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New informations about the ending of movie one *Spoiler*
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TariArFiniel93
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Sep 27 2012, 7:28am
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I wonder how much compensation WB has had to pay out?
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Fardragon
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Sep 27 2012, 8:11am
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Depends what they have committed to in the contracts
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 27 2012, 10:18am
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What about the making of books
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LoremIpsum
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Sep 27 2012, 8:32am
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Let's hope it's too late to change the books!
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 8:58am
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Hope they don't recall the books!
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Carne
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Sep 27 2012, 2:01pm
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End after the eagle rescue?
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 8:57am
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So is Laketown
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 28 2012, 12:24am
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???
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Durin the Deathless
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Sep 27 2012, 12:20pm
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The climax will probably be the rescue...
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 27 2012, 12:28pm
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Yeah that's what I'm hoping for
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burgahobbit
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Sep 27 2012, 12:36pm
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The end will probably be a shot of the all the company
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 1:27pm
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Perhaps...
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 27 2012, 1:52pm
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Nice!
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Elenorflower
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Sep 27 2012, 3:11pm
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I'm with you!
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grinman
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Sep 27 2012, 4:58pm
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How about DOS starting from the perspective of Beorn
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 5:05pm
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Oh, I like that
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 28 2012, 12:29am
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That's exactly what I was thinking!
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DanielLB
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Sep 28 2012, 7:34am
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Windows got rid of DOS some years ago
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2012, 12:33am
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I like the reintroduction of dwarves idea...
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Eye's on Guard
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Sep 27 2012, 5:06pm
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This still hurts me.
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Faenoriel
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Sep 27 2012, 1:10pm
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"Good news everyone!
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SirDennisC
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Sep 27 2012, 1:54pm
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I've thought about this too
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Captain Salt
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Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm
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Shouldn't the filming progress have been more controlled this time?
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Faenoriel
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Sep 27 2012, 5:34pm
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The ending scene will be...
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lidlessEye
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Sep 27 2012, 6:38pm
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They better save that ending scene for TAB! XD //
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Faenoriel
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Sep 27 2012, 6:40pm
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And a movie titled The Desolation of Smaug
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Muireadhaigh
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Sep 27 2012, 6:46pm
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It's all part of the desolation though :-) /
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 6:47pm
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I'm actually not certain we'll see Smaug (or see our heroes see Smaug) in Film 2...
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Captain Salt
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Sep 27 2012, 7:08pm
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good point...
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lidlessEye
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Sep 27 2012, 8:45pm
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I hope that the Eyrie won't be the end
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Lightice
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Sep 27 2012, 9:34pm
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Warner Brother's specifically updated the movie scroll
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 9:37pm
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Why do you say
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 27 2012, 10:27pm
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Not good.
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Lightice
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Sep 27 2012, 11:11pm
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Well there are quite a few relatively in depth threads
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 27 2012, 11:19pm
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Film 2 does NOT have to deal with Smaug's SPOILERS
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 28 2012, 12:35am
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I agree
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totoro
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Sep 28 2012, 4:16am
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You are right
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Elenorflower
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Sep 29 2012, 1:15pm
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The hell?
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Lightice
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Sep 28 2012, 12:59pm
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How do you know what the pacing is like?
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 28 2012, 3:54pm
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Simple.
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Lightice
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Sep 28 2012, 4:48pm
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Merchandising and Film-making
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Escapist
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Sep 28 2012, 5:21pm
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I rather suspect
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 28 2012, 8:01pm
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Yes, I understand your points
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 28 2012, 8:39pm
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My apologies, but I can't see how I could have answered differently.
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Lightice
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Sep 28 2012, 9:40pm
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Right
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 12:16am
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There are unyielding narrative requirements to consider that seem to be ignored here a lot.
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Lightice
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Sep 29 2012, 1:33am
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I agree
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 3:18am
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Really?
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Lightice
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Sep 29 2012, 1:05pm
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Seems a tad hyperbolic
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 3:37pm
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I disagree
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2012, 4:37pm
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It could go either way but
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 29 2012, 4:57pm
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I thought the same, until we learned AUJ would be cut early
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DanielLB
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Sep 29 2012, 5:03pm
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Unless they are planning further splits, e.g. TH 2.1 and TH 2.2
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
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Let the speculation of titles begin!
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DanielLB
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Sep 29 2012, 5:58pm
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yes me too
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Elenorflower
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Sep 29 2012, 6:34pm
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Beorn is not in film 1
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:13pm
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Don't be so sure
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:00pm
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Time will tell!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2012, 7:20pm
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Perhaps
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
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This is sounding crazier every minute...
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Lightice
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Sep 29 2012, 5:29pm
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You make some good points.
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Estel78
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Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
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I was furious when I went to see Waiting for Godot.....
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 29 2012, 5:46pm
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Never said Smaug would *spoilers*
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:09pm
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If this was just two movies you might have a point, but not in a trilogy
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Lightice
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Sep 29 2012, 7:41pm
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Well
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:44pm
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Personally speaking
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Elenorflower
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Sep 29 2012, 8:39pm
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Agreed - I think Smaug deserves his own film
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DanielLB
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Sep 29 2012, 8:45pm
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yes me too
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Elenorflower
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Sep 29 2012, 8:57pm
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Not sure I follow that
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 29 2012, 9:16pm
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It depends when one thinks Smaug should appear
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DanielLB
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Sep 29 2012, 9:23pm
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You are missing something.
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Lightice
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Sep 30 2012, 11:44am
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Hmm not sure I agree with that.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 30 2012, 12:20pm
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Take this into consideration:
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Lightice
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Sep 30 2012, 12:39pm
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So we have two further arguments here
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 30 2012, 12:58pm
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So what is the climax for film 2? //
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Estel78
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Sep 30 2012, 1:14pm
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Who knows?
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 30 2012, 2:46pm
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Indeed
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Phibbus
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Sep 30 2012, 2:53pm
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The climax of DoS
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 30 2012, 5:58pm
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Ok first post, first speculation
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SgtZimm
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Oct 17 2012, 9:13pm
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...
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Lightice
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Sep 30 2012, 4:10pm
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*Scratches head*
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 30 2012, 4:17pm
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I never really thought of it as a climax
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DanielLB
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Sep 30 2012, 4:29pm
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I agree 100% Lightice
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Elenorflower
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Sep 30 2012, 2:43pm
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Introducing a brand new character (Beorn) at the end of a film
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 30 2012, 4:49pm
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Again, see the LotR for examples.
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Lightice
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Sep 30 2012, 10:05pm
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Indeed Lightice
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Elenorflower
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Sep 30 2012, 10:26pm
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--> some personal comments edited out of this sub-thread
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Altaira
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Sep 29 2012, 8:27pm
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I disagree about the split-point
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Ardamírë
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Sep 29 2012, 7:06pm
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That is possible
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:12pm
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I wouldn't start Film 3 with Laketown
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Ardamírë
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Sep 29 2012, 7:17pm
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:22pm
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That's too much
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Ardamírë
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Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
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Not a bad scenario
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 29 2012, 7:27pm
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I like it...
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Sinister71
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Sep 30 2012, 11:42pm
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I have no doubts
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Ardamírë
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Oct 1 2012, 1:05am
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Satisfactory break?
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Phibbus
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Sep 29 2012, 1:17pm
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Makes a great deal of sense
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2012, 9:34pm
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climaxes
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Escapist
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Sep 29 2012, 1:54pm
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I like that ending too
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Elenorflower
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Sep 29 2012, 1:09pm
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better than the 1978 Lord of the Rings
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There&ThereAgain
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Sep 27 2012, 7:07pm
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Strange, I'd thought Bakshi's version HAD been marketed as "Part 1" of LotR...?
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Captain Salt
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Sep 27 2012, 7:09pm
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Nope
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dave_lf
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Sep 27 2012, 7:27pm
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Oh well, this is not surprising..
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Maylily
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Sep 27 2012, 2:19pm
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Yet more evidence that AUJ will be 2hrs
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sycorax82
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Sep 27 2012, 3:12pm
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There have been some good posts explaining why it will still be at least 2:30...
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Eye's on Guard
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Sep 27 2012, 3:59pm
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Rubbish
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Spaldron
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Sep 27 2012, 4:11pm
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It's not rubbish!
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 27 2012, 11:37pm
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Hmmm... I don't see the story you are referring to.//
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Owain
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Sep 27 2012, 4:07pm
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Looks like it's been taken down! /
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DanielLB
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Sep 27 2012, 4:19pm
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So now we know that Bard would have been in film 1, don't we?
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burgahobbit
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Sep 27 2012, 8:30pm
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I wonder where people would rank merchandizing in importance
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Escapist
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Sep 27 2012, 9:30pm
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