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I've thought about this too

Captain Salt
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Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm


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Could one of the considerations for the split/pushing a great deal of AUJ back be effects deadlines? Most of the CGI in the trailer looked like a work-in-progress; they're going to be hard pressed to perfect everything in what's ended up as Film 1 (Trolls, a bit of the Spiders, Radagast's menagerie, the Goblins/Goblin-town, Wargs, Stone Giants, Gollum, digital matte paintings and set extensions ETC), before December. It seems possible that PJ and CO. were faced with a choice; either delay Film 1 (again), release an unfinished film, or push a lot of the heavy effects work back to Film 2. I don't think this was the major factor in the trilogy decision, but it may have been one, IMO.
My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

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New informations about the ending of movie one *Spoiler* TariArFiniel93 Send a private message to TariArFiniel93 Sep 27 2012, 7:28am
    I wonder how much compensation WB has had to pay out? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Sep 27 2012, 8:11am
        Depends what they have committed to in the contracts Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 10:18am
    What about the making of books LoremIpsum Send a private message to LoremIpsum Sep 27 2012, 8:32am
        Let's hope it's too late to change the books! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 8:58am
        Hope they don't recall the books! Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 27 2012, 2:01pm
    End after the eagle rescue? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 8:57am
        So is Laketown Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:24am
    ??? Durin the Deathless Send a private message to Durin the Deathless Sep 27 2012, 12:20pm
        The climax will probably be the rescue... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 12:28pm
            Yeah that's what I'm hoping for burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 27 2012, 12:36pm
            The end will probably be a shot of the all the company DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 1:27pm
                Perhaps... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 1:52pm
                Nice! Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 27 2012, 3:11pm
            I'm with you! grinman Send a private message to grinman Sep 27 2012, 4:58pm
                How about DOS starting from the perspective of Beorn DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 5:05pm
                    Oh, I like that Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:29am
                        That's exactly what I was thinking! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 28 2012, 7:34am
                    Windows got rid of DOS some years ago Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2012, 12:33am
                I like the reintroduction of dwarves idea... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Sep 27 2012, 5:06pm
    This still hurts me. Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 1:10pm
    "Good news everyone! SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 27 2012, 1:54pm
        I've thought about this too Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm
        Shouldn't the filming progress have been more controlled this time? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 5:34pm
            The ending scene will be... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 27 2012, 6:38pm
                They better save that ending scene for TAB! XD // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 6:40pm
        And a movie titled The Desolation of Smaug Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Sep 27 2012, 6:46pm
            It's all part of the desolation though :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 6:47pm
            I'm actually not certain we'll see Smaug (or see our heroes see Smaug) in Film 2... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 7:08pm
                good point... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 27 2012, 8:45pm
                I hope that the Eyrie won't be the end Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 27 2012, 9:34pm
                    Warner Brother's specifically updated the movie scroll DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 9:37pm
                    Why do you say Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 10:27pm
                        Not good. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 27 2012, 11:11pm
                            Well there are quite a few relatively in depth threads Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 11:19pm
                    Film 2 does NOT have to deal with Smaug's SPOILERS Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:35am
                        I agree totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 28 2012, 4:16am
                            You are right Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 1:15pm
                        The hell? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 12:59pm
                            How do you know what the pacing is like? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 3:54pm
                                Simple. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 4:48pm
                                    Merchandising and Film-making Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 28 2012, 5:21pm
                                    I rather suspect Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 28 2012, 8:01pm
                                    Yes, I understand your points Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 8:39pm
                                        My apologies, but I can't see how I could have answered differently. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 9:40pm
                                            Right Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 12:16am
                                                There are unyielding narrative requirements to consider that seem to be ignored here a lot. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 1:33am
                                                    I agree Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 3:18am
                                                        Really? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 1:05pm
                                                            Seems a tad hyperbolic Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 3:37pm
                                                                I disagree Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2012, 4:37pm
                                                                    It could go either way but Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 4:57pm
                                                                    I thought the same, until we learned AUJ would be cut early DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 5:03pm
                                                                        Unless they are planning further splits, e.g. TH 2.1 and TH 2.2 SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
                                                                            Let the speculation of titles begin! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 5:58pm
                                                                            yes me too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 6:34pm
                                                                                Beorn is not in film 1 Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:13pm
                                                                    Don't be so sure Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:00pm
                                                                        Time will tell! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2012, 7:20pm
                                                                            Perhaps Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
                                                                This is sounding crazier every minute... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 5:29pm
                                                                    You make some good points. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
                                                                    I was furious when I went to see Waiting for Godot..... Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 5:46pm
                                                                    Never said Smaug would *spoilers* Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:09pm
                                                                        If this was just two movies you might have a point, but not in a trilogy Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 7:41pm
                                                                            Well Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:44pm
                                                                            Personally speaking Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 8:39pm
                                                                                Agreed - I think Smaug deserves his own film DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 8:45pm
                                                                                    yes me too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 8:57pm
                                                                                    Not sure I follow that Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 9:16pm
                                                                                        It depends when one thinks Smaug should appear DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 9:23pm
                                                                                        You are missing something. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 11:44am
                                                                                            Hmm not sure I agree with that. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 12:20pm
                                                                                                Take this into consideration: Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 12:39pm
                                                                                                    So we have two further arguments here Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 12:58pm
                                                                                                        So what is the climax for film 2? // Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 30 2012, 1:14pm
                                                                                                            Who knows? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 2:46pm
                                                                                                            Indeed Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 30 2012, 2:53pm
                                                                                                            The climax of DoS Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 30 2012, 5:58pm
                                                                                                            Ok first post, first speculation SgtZimm Send a private message to SgtZimm Oct 17 2012, 9:13pm
                                                                                                        ... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 4:10pm
                                                                                                            *Scratches head* Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 4:17pm
                                                                                                                I never really thought of it as a climax DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 30 2012, 4:29pm
                                                                                            I agree 100% Lightice Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 30 2012, 2:43pm
                                                                                            Introducing a brand new character (Beorn) at the end of a film Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 30 2012, 4:49pm
                                                                                                Again, see the LotR for examples. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 10:05pm
                                                                                                    Indeed Lightice Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 30 2012, 10:26pm
                                                                    --> some personal comments edited out of this sub-thread Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 29 2012, 8:27pm
                                                                I disagree about the split-point Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:06pm
                                                                    That is possible Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:12pm
                                                                        I wouldn't start Film 3 with Laketown Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:17pm
                                                                            Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:22pm
                                                                                That's too much Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
                                                                                    Not a bad scenario Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:27pm
                                                                                    I like it... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 30 2012, 11:42pm
                                                                                        I have no doubts Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Oct 1 2012, 1:05am
                                                    Satisfactory break? Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 29 2012, 1:17pm
                                                        Makes a great deal of sense SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2012, 9:34pm
                                                    climaxes Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 29 2012, 1:54pm
                    I like that ending too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 1:09pm
        better than the 1978 Lord of the Rings There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 27 2012, 7:07pm
            Strange, I'd thought Bakshi's version HAD been marketed as "Part 1" of LotR...? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 7:09pm
                Nope dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Sep 27 2012, 7:27pm
    Oh well, this is not surprising.. Maylily Send a private message to Maylily Sep 27 2012, 2:19pm
    Yet more evidence that AUJ will be 2hrs sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 27 2012, 3:12pm
        There have been some good posts explaining why it will still be at least 2:30... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Sep 27 2012, 3:59pm
        Rubbish Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Sep 27 2012, 4:11pm
            It's not rubbish! Intergalactic Lawman Send a private message to Intergalactic Lawman Sep 27 2012, 11:37pm
    Hmmm... I don't see the story you are referring to.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Sep 27 2012, 4:07pm
        Looks like it's been taken down! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 4:19pm
    So now we know that Bard would have been in film 1, don't we? burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 27 2012, 8:30pm
    I wonder where people would rank merchandizing in importance Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 27 2012, 9:30pm

 
 
 

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