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Elthir
Grey Havens
Sep 26 2012, 5:41pm
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When first we meet the Goblins we have: 'Out jumped the goblins, big goblins, great ugly looking goblins, lots of goblins...' six to each Dwarf, at least, and two even for Bilbo. And describing the Great Goblin: '... sat a tremendous goblin with a huge head' And later, there is a passage 'low and roughly made' but that 'was not too difficult for the hobbit', despite him stubbing his toes. The passage was also thought (by Bilbo) to be: 'a bit low for goblins, at least for the big ones', Bilbo not knowing that even the big ones go along at great speed stooping low with their hands almost on the ground. So goblins can be pretty small, as we see later in The Lord of the Rings, although there are some bigger ones too obviously. As has been noted in other threads, a 'huge' Uruk in Moria that forces Boromir (!) to the ground was yet only 'almost' man-high. Of course the word in the books is tremendous; how big is a tremendous goblin with a huge head? Hard to say, but even if he were bigger than this 'huge' Uruk he might only be the general size of an average man, which still would be bigger than Bilbo or the Dwarves of course. I don't imagine the Great Goblin as some giant creature that far surpasses goblin-kind... ... but then again it's a film, and Jackson has his own ideas.
(This post was edited by Elthir on Sep 26 2012, 5:50pm)
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Thoughts on The Great Goblin?
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 20 2012, 11:14am
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I really like the design
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Carne
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Sep 20 2012, 11:16am
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Both!
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 20 2012, 11:18am
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not keen on it
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Elenorflower
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Sep 20 2012, 11:48am
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I guess
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Valandil ed Imladris
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Sep 20 2012, 11:58am
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Think about this though...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 20 2012, 12:50pm
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That makes sense.
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Elutherian
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Sep 20 2012, 1:18pm
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I dunno, a dragon is pretty serious business. ;) //
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Estel78
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Sep 20 2012, 1:38pm
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BUT
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Solicitr
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Sep 20 2012, 4:22pm
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I don't want it to be all serious
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Valandil ed Imladris
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Sep 20 2012, 2:39pm
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This is what is says in the book
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Lost Hobbit
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Sep 20 2012, 11:32am
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And he probably won't look that huge next to Gandalf
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Carne
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Sep 20 2012, 11:36am
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At first I also thought it was a kind of troll
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Valandil ed Imladris
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Sep 20 2012, 11:48am
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I like the first picture
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stoutfiles
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Sep 20 2012, 11:43am
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Was worried he'd look more like Boss Nass, however
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Captain Salt
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Sep 20 2012, 3:40pm
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What he looks like in motion
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kjeevah
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Sep 20 2012, 5:53pm
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Oversized images removed.
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Ataahua
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Sep 20 2012, 7:35pm
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I like the design too!
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 12:43pm
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You surprise me :-p//
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Nightingale
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Sep 20 2012, 3:00pm
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It's just that one shot. Everything else I love. :-) /
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 3:07pm
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Not yet sold 100%
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Vangalad
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Sep 20 2012, 11:28am
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I'm detecting a slight hint of Barry Humphries in the design...
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Steerpike
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Sep 20 2012, 12:27pm
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Broken bridge
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Lucky Luke
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Sep 20 2012, 12:43pm
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That's pretty much how the Great Goblin was described in the book...
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Elutherian
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Sep 20 2012, 1:12pm
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Fair enough
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stoutfiles
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Sep 20 2012, 1:31pm
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Something tells me...
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Elutherian
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Sep 20 2012, 1:33pm
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Down, down from Goblin-Town
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dave_lf
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Sep 20 2012, 2:31pm
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Not so sure about that
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totoro
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Sep 20 2012, 6:06pm
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Boy...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 20 2012, 1:46pm
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I really cannot discern "The Crown"
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 20 2012, 2:42pm
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Clearly seen here
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 2:56pm
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Now that I look again...
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dave_lf
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Sep 20 2012, 2:57pm
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Yes, on his head. /
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 3:05pm
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Looks good
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Elessar
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Sep 20 2012, 3:08pm
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Do you have any pic from this annual to share?
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Vangalad
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Sep 20 2012, 3:53pm
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Not with me right now
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Elessar
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Sep 20 2012, 4:25pm
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Much appreciated :-) //
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Vangalad
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Sep 20 2012, 4:53pm
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Can't find the photo I took.
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Elessar
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Sep 20 2012, 11:49pm
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That's fine,
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Vangalad
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Sep 21 2012, 12:04am
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My bad. I was thinking you might not have seen the pics.
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Elessar
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Sep 21 2012, 12:13am
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Of the Great Goblin?
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 6:32pm
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Yes...
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Vangalad
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Sep 20 2012, 9:12pm
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That large goblin in the Hobbit annual looked infinitely better
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 20 2012, 3:20pm
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That was probably concept art
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Carne
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Sep 20 2012, 3:23pm
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Pretty sure it is.
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Elessar
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Sep 20 2012, 3:23pm
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I preferred the annual Goblin too /
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 6:30pm
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I really like it...
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Snaga
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Sep 20 2012, 4:18pm
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My main thought is that this was the worst initial character reveal ever//
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nobofthepony
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Sep 20 2012, 4:55pm
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exactly..and the worse part is...
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WhiskFishercat
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Sep 20 2012, 4:59pm
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But that scene might not be in the final film.... //
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dormouse
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Sep 20 2012, 5:11pm
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He falls well.
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Aragalen the Green
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Sep 20 2012, 5:19pm
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Seems to have a massive goitre!
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imin
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Sep 20 2012, 5:48pm
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Bilbo may have embellished this in his telling of the story
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nobofthepony
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Sep 20 2012, 5:59pm
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i'm not convinced
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 21 2012, 2:03am
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Sam hitting orcs with his pan
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 4:39am
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and did i say....
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 21 2012, 5:10am
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Pantastic!
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stormcrow20
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Sep 21 2012, 8:20am
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Perhaps the Great Goblin should not be played as the arch villain some of you desire.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 21 2012, 1:49pm
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My votes in for 'Razor Sharp Boomerang'
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Snaga
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Sep 21 2012, 4:18pm
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Okay...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 21 2012, 4:50am
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sorry i did not freeze frame the entire trailer
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 21 2012, 5:16am
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So...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 21 2012, 5:20am
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oh...wow
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 21 2012, 5:30am
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Clearly that went over your head...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 21 2012, 5:36am
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Weird
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leonmuse
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Sep 21 2012, 5:45am
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Like I imagined
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 5:55am
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Personal attack?
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 21 2012, 5:59am
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Since your arrival
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 6:21am
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Sorry
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 6:35am
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SA is right.
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entmaiden
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Sep 21 2012, 1:23pm
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its not a personal attack at all
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 22 2012, 1:02am
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Noted
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totoro
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Sep 22 2012, 6:41am
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.....?
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duats
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Sep 21 2012, 6:27am
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Could you provide the source you are referencing for that?
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 6:31am
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I didn't say he was a Balrog
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 6:39am
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Sorry to say this
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 6:45am
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I am not suggesting this is proof, but quoting wikipedia
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 6:57am
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Actually, he did....
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Phibbus
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Sep 22 2012, 4:07am
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I think it may be the quote from HOME
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 22 2012, 12:29pm
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So you're saying there is a chance.... lol
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Elessar
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Sep 22 2012, 5:40pm
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big like for his design
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triptrap
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Sep 21 2012, 3:02pm
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tremendous
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Elthir
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Sep 26 2012, 5:41pm
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I am fine with it. And I am not one to sign on blindly for everything Peter does.
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AinurOlorin
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Sep 24 2012, 11:46pm
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