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totoro
Lorien
Sep 20 2012, 5:21pm
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For the first half or so of the trailer, you are in the shire, with its trimmed hedges. The dwarves come along with a completely-different-from-hobbit rambunctiousness that really catches the mood of both the book and what I would like to see. The head-butt is a wonderful addition. Not mentioned in the book, but just the kind of thing that would make Bilbo wonder, "why would anyone headbutt another person?" and stand there in stunned silence at the subjective stupidity of the act. Because the hobbit has plenty of little touches like that where a sensible hobbit just would not condone certain activities, I think it is spot-on. The dwarves are in a way more varied than humanity because they have the added benefit of inhuman, but still dwarvish (in my mind), characteristics. One is hard of hearing, one is hard of, well, thinking. You have the old fatherly sort, the young idealistic, ... I really like how the dwarves are not cookie cutter images. This is actually also a welcome deviation from the book. Using just the book, tell me the difference between Ori and Nori. Now I see it. I don't know if they will make Dori the strongest (he doesn't look strongest to me), but there are now so many visual cues, as well as manners of speaking, that distinguish these dwarves from one another. I would have liked some longer beards (at least I think I would have), but over all, I am quite pleased. I particularly like Balin. We also get nothing like the tone of his in the book (though he is from the narrator's perspective, which is Bilbo many years later I think, one of those who looks most kindly on hobbit). I liked Rivendell just fine. The harps in the back give the feel of a tra-la-lilly without actually having to listen to it. The narrator mentioned that the elves actually seem foolish to some. I don't want to see the elves act in a manner that would seem foolish to some. I don't think it will translate well to the screen. I believe the tone of Elrond is such that there is no great concern for this. The way Elrond and Thorin speak to one another is spot-on what I pictured, with a bit of impatience and lack of trust throughout. Then we get to goblin town, with the wonderful touches placing bones here and there and making it look like a cave, but as dirty a cave as you might expect. Having done a little spelunking in my day, I really liked the way they made the cave feels like it is underground, but had more character than the usual cavern. Not to say I don't think plain old caves are anything other than awe-inspiring, but it will not translate to the screen. You need to bones laying around and the old-looking platforms to really get it right. The landscapes, well, we all know about those. Stunning. The trolls are a little meh, but they had to look like the Cave Trolls of LOTR trilogy. I pictured them as more human-looking when reading the book; so I think it is just a matter of taste. They move quite well. The camp, the little I could see by still-framing the HD version of the trailer, looks nice and littered, like I would expect. On the plus side, the dwarves charging out to rescue Bilbo (together) feels more satisfying than them stumbling into the troll camp two at a time to be conveniently stuffed into sacks. There was a hint in the book about a couple of dwarves making an "impression" on the trolls in the form of painful, but not life-threatening wounds. However, over-all the dwarves seemed to act kind of stupid. I am glad to see hints of them going down with more purpose and a bit more of a fight. The animals are amazing. On still-frame, I defy anyone to point out how the hedgehog or hare looks any different than a real hedgehog or hare. The only way to tell that there is CGI there is to realize that hedgehogs cannot be trained to do what that hedgehog does (and hares don't pull sleds). If that kind of CGI doesn't impress, you probably don't like things in real life that are unbelievable, like moon walks (hoax!) and such. Flawlessly rendered. I adore the elves, Galadriel and Elrond. It is amazing to me the power they exude without any special effects. I think Sir Ian is showing his age a bit because he had the same power in the first film, but is somewhat diminished in this one. He is still awesome, though. Nice touch having Bifur awake and playing with a toy when the goblins ambush the party. I thought it was kind of cute. Were those stone giants a GDT design?
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The 'unofficial' NOT disappointed thread
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architecthis
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Sep 20 2012, 3:55pm
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Something does seem to be strange!
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Escapist
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Sep 20 2012, 4:06pm
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I think the thing is...
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RosieLass
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Sep 20 2012, 4:11pm
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I can't speak for everyone...
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easterlingchief1
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Sep 20 2012, 6:59pm
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All comments are welcome
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architecthis
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Sep 20 2012, 4:11pm
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Very good point
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dernwyn
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Sep 20 2012, 4:20pm
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And I changed
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Altaira
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Sep 20 2012, 4:36pm
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Ah...
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sador
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Sep 20 2012, 5:01pm
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Ha! Sador...
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 6:10pm
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Displeasure
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JWPlatt
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Sep 20 2012, 4:13pm
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touche
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architecthis
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Sep 20 2012, 4:18pm
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Reference
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JWPlatt
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Sep 20 2012, 4:49pm
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despite the original thread title
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 11:16am
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Yeah no kidding
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WhiskFishercat
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Sep 20 2012, 4:26pm
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You don't see talking jesus lions?
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 4:41pm
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I love that shot too
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WhiskFishercat
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Sep 20 2012, 4:52pm
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Love that shot
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imin
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Sep 20 2012, 4:54pm
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That image is gorgeous
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 5:02pm
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I loved it, too
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totoro
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Sep 20 2012, 5:21pm
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The Elves
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 5:45pm
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Refuse to comment further
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 5:56pm
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Has me scratching my head too...
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Snaga
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Sep 20 2012, 8:33pm
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I think a lot of it has to do with the hyper-smooth, silky look
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 20 2012, 9:58pm
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I understand
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 11:21am
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This thread really needed?
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imin
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Sep 20 2012, 4:41pm
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maybe not
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architecthis
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Sep 20 2012, 4:44pm
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Ah ok, fair enough
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imin
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Sep 20 2012, 4:50pm
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A positive outlook is great.
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Macfeast
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Sep 20 2012, 5:21pm
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your costume
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WhiskFishercat
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Sep 20 2012, 5:31pm
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my costume
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totoro
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Sep 20 2012, 5:38pm
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Thorin, actually!
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Macfeast
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Sep 20 2012, 5:43pm
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I don't think
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Altaira
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Sep 20 2012, 4:51pm
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Thank you for this thread!!
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adnan
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Sep 20 2012, 4:52pm
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Count me positive too...
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dormouse
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Sep 20 2012, 5:02pm
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Yes thank you!!
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droidsocket
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Sep 20 2012, 6:27pm
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But isn't nerd rage over nerd rage still nerd rage?
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 6:36pm
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I appreciate the quote, Sir D, but we must give that one to DK's scriptwriter...
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Tim
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Sep 20 2012, 6:57pm
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I think it is OK to be negative about the hedgehog
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totoro
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Sep 20 2012, 7:00pm
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They're Middle-earth hedgehogs!
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 7:01pm
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Middle Earth hedgehogs, you say?
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easterlingchief1
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Sep 20 2012, 8:27pm
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and I am driving my fiance crazy haha
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 11:29am
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Love what we've seen of the trolls!
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Carne
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Sep 20 2012, 4:57pm
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Someone raised the issue of "friendly Gollum."
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 5:37pm
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polite gollum
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totoro
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Sep 20 2012, 5:47pm
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Polite and Happy are 2 different things
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Sinister71
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Sep 21 2012, 3:16am
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This is kind of how I feel
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Ardamírë
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Sep 21 2012, 3:30am
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Uh-oh.
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stormcrow20
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Sep 21 2012, 7:33am
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He should still be creepy though, no?
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 5:48pm
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Not the whole picture (spoiler)
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 6:05pm
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Familiarity with Gollum
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 6:34pm
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Also -
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hamlet
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Sep 20 2012, 7:05pm
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Oh yes indeed
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 7:13pm
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Never mind about that I want to know why
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 20 2012, 7:30pm
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Stop it with the being funny.
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Tim
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Sep 20 2012, 7:34pm
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic toward me
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 7:39pm
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Just a general chuckle, I assure you.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 20 2012, 7:42pm
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Just imagine the mood swings in store
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SirDennisC
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Sep 20 2012, 7:44pm
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I'm not looking forward to the mood swings
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 8:09pm
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Well just as in the text
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 20 2012, 8:39pm
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Yes, we're dealing with a different Gollum here
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Snaga
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Sep 20 2012, 8:47pm
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disagreehttp://newboards.theonering.net/
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Sinister71
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Sep 21 2012, 3:07am
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*snicker*
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Altaira
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Sep 21 2012, 3:18am
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Just his presence is a tie in
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Sinister71
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Sep 21 2012, 3:25am
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True
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Altaira
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Sep 21 2012, 4:44am
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It can be done in the dark
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 4:56am
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Darkness
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JWPlatt
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Sep 21 2012, 5:07am
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To my knowledge
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duats
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Sep 21 2012, 5:44am
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Very well said
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 6:16am
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I completely disagree
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 6:20am
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Never said he wasn't pitiful
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 21 2012, 6:21am
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I'm simply saying I am not disappointed
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totoro
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Sep 21 2012, 6:52am
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I'm a little lost. here -
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geordie
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Sep 21 2012, 9:37am
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but there is also never any feeling of dread
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Sinister71
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Sep 21 2012, 8:53pm
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Hmmm
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SirDennisC
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Sep 22 2012, 2:00am
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I just watched the Gollum scene again
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totoro
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Sep 22 2012, 6:26am
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Takes
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JWPlatt
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Sep 21 2012, 3:22am
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Richness and depth
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Sunflower
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Sep 20 2012, 5:43pm
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Right on!
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 5:52pm
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Agreed!
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 11:35am
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I'm with you, Sunflower!
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Kristin Thompson
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Oct 11 2012, 2:33am
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All is Hobbit and nothing hurts!
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Faenoriel
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Sep 20 2012, 5:59pm
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Yay for being positive!
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 6:28pm
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Not the wrath of Daniel!
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 6:35pm
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There are exceptions Ardamírë!
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 6:40pm
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You really ought to tell everyone
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 6:50pm
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Hey, I liked it too
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acheron
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Sep 20 2012, 6:49pm
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But can we be surprised?
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mefansmum
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Sep 20 2012, 7:13pm
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while I understand..
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droidsocket
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Sep 20 2012, 7:44pm
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Not at all disappointed.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 20 2012, 7:20pm
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anyone else thinks that galadriel sounds like the borg-queen?
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elanesse
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Sep 20 2012, 7:34pm
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I don't hear it? /
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 7:37pm
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when/before she says "Mithrandir"
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elanesse
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Sep 20 2012, 7:39pm
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Before she says Mithrandir?
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 9:40pm
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Do you mean the sound of stone grinding on stone?
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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 10:52pm
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I think that's just Cate
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Ardamírë
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Sep 20 2012, 7:42pm
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like darth-vader-galadriel
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elanesse
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Sep 20 2012, 8:10pm
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Loved the 5 alternate endings.
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Lissuin
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Sep 20 2012, 8:38pm
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Yes yes YES!!!! :)
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BlackCountry
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Sep 23 2012, 1:58pm
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My favorite shots
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 20 2012, 11:03pm
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I really liked the trailer
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tolkiennerd
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Sep 21 2012, 1:54am
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I'm with ya
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Elessar
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Sep 21 2012, 2:17am
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Okay...
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Intergalactic Lawman
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Sep 21 2012, 5:06am
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something interesting
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 11:39am
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At first I thought the trailer was just ok but now
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namarie
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Sep 21 2012, 2:27pm
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I'm officially not disappointed
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Tim
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Sep 21 2012, 3:18pm
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Do you all think we'll get something new from WB/PJ today?
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Carne
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Sep 21 2012, 3:53pm
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was wondering this myself
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 3:55pm
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Hope we get something
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Carne
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Sep 21 2012, 4:07pm
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that may explain it
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 4:17pm
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Almost 6:30PM here
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Carne
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Sep 21 2012, 4:21pm
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Not another TORn meltdown! /
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DanielLB
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Sep 21 2012, 6:15pm
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I liked it!
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Olafr
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Sep 21 2012, 4:23pm
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Never exactly like my vision of TH, but...
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Aragalen the Green
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Sep 21 2012, 5:47pm
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Could not agree more NT
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architecthis
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Sep 21 2012, 5:50pm
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I hope NT means...
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Aragalen the Green
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Sep 21 2012, 7:20pm
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It means "no text"
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DanielLB
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Sep 21 2012, 7:23pm
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Thanks! NT :)
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Aragalen the Green
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Sep 21 2012, 7:35pm
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Subject Lines
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JWPlatt
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Sep 21 2012, 8:03pm
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"WAAAA. WAAAAA. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!"
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Jettorex
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Sep 21 2012, 8:32pm
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I think the complete opposite!
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DanielLB
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Sep 21 2012, 8:56pm
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Now wait! LOTIP
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Aragalen the Green
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Sep 21 2012, 11:01pm
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