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The 'unofficial' NOT disappointed thread

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Sep 20 2012, 3:55pm


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I don't post very often here. I tend to just read through the posts to find out if I might have missed some interesting detail here or there, but I felt the need to comment on all the negativity I have picked up on over the past 24 hours.

First of all, the biggest issue before the release of this trailer (it seemed to me) was the worry that these films would be a repeat of the LOTR. That they would be too dark or humorous to match the character of the novel, and now that the trailer is here one big complaint I keep seeing is that these are not enough like the trilogy both aesthetically and with regards to the scale. If there is one complaint I will sympathize with it is the lack of miniatures being used but this is not LOTR and the technology has come a long way since 1999 so let's at least wait until we see the movie before we start making references to Star Wars and Narnia.

Secondly, the great goblin appears to me to be very interesting and IDK if I am the only one who sees it or what but if you look at Barry Humphries in the latest video log they seem to have exaggerated his features quite a bit but I totally see his face in the design. I also feel that we can't pass too much judgement on a corpse without seeing him bring the character to life.

As far as there not being enough hair on the wargs, really? I think there will be many wargs many of which look distinctly different. If the banner released by WB is any indication then at least several of them will be black with longer hair (much like Grom or whatever from Neverending story) and we also know from a video blog that we will have one who is larger and white.

Richard Armitage is perfect in his role his voice gives me the chills. In fact several of the dwarves have interesting irish and scottish accents which is also pretty cool and something we have not seen before in ME. I think all of these details will help to lend a sense of depth to the race. Additionally, Thorin is not referring to Goblin town when he mentions entering the mountain just because a scene in goblin town is cut in shortly after, we also have a scene with radagast cut in just after that....its just a trailer and it's edited to maximize interest.

Too much humor? Especially at the end with the great goblin scene? watch the alternate endings, thats what they are there for

I just dont know what people expect I guess. I am slightly concerned over the green screen but Weta is the best in the world at this so I guess I am not too concerned. I also feel the Hobbit should be a bit lighter in tone and gradually become more ominous as the party approaches the mountain - in which case the trailer is spot on if you ask me.

Finally, please remember this is not the shore soundtrack....the sound is going to add so much to the atmosphere of this movie, much like lighting can completely change the way one experiences a building or space. Try to keep an open mind and not jump to so many conclusions people.

This trailer is awesome!


(This post was edited by Altaira on Sep 20 2012, 4:27pm)

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The 'unofficial' NOT disappointed thread architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 20 2012, 3:55pm
    Something does seem to be strange! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 20 2012, 4:06pm
        I think the thing is... RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Sep 20 2012, 4:11pm
            I can't speak for everyone... easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Sep 20 2012, 6:59pm
        All comments are welcome architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 20 2012, 4:11pm
        Very good point dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Sep 20 2012, 4:20pm
            And I changed Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 20 2012, 4:36pm
                Ah... sador Send a private message to sador Sep 20 2012, 5:01pm
                    Ha! Sador... SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 6:10pm
    Displeasure JWPlatt Sep 20 2012, 4:13pm
        touche architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 20 2012, 4:18pm
            Reference JWPlatt Sep 20 2012, 4:49pm
                despite the original thread title architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 11:16am
    Yeah no kidding WhiskFishercat Send a private message to WhiskFishercat Sep 20 2012, 4:26pm
        You don't see talking jesus lions? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 4:41pm
            I love that shot too WhiskFishercat Send a private message to WhiskFishercat Sep 20 2012, 4:52pm
            Love that shot imin Send a private message to imin Sep 20 2012, 4:54pm
            That image is gorgeous Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 5:02pm
        I loved it, too totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 20 2012, 5:21pm
            The Elves Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 5:45pm
            Refuse to comment further SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 5:56pm
        Has me scratching my head too... Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Sep 20 2012, 8:33pm
        I think a lot of it has to do with the hyper-smooth, silky look Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 20 2012, 9:58pm
            I understand architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 11:21am
    This thread really needed? imin Send a private message to imin Sep 20 2012, 4:41pm
        maybe not architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 20 2012, 4:44pm
            Ah ok, fair enough imin Send a private message to imin Sep 20 2012, 4:50pm
            A positive outlook is great. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Sep 20 2012, 5:21pm
                your costume WhiskFishercat Send a private message to WhiskFishercat Sep 20 2012, 5:31pm
                    my costume totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 20 2012, 5:38pm
                    Thorin, actually! Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Sep 20 2012, 5:43pm
        I don't think Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 20 2012, 4:51pm
    Thank you for this thread!! adnan Send a private message to adnan Sep 20 2012, 4:52pm
        Count me positive too... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 20 2012, 5:02pm
        Yes thank you!! droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Sep 20 2012, 6:27pm
            But isn't nerd rage over nerd rage still nerd rage? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 6:36pm
                I appreciate the quote, Sir D, but we must give that one to DK's scriptwriter... Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 20 2012, 6:57pm
                    I think it is OK to be negative about the hedgehog totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 20 2012, 7:00pm
                        They're Middle-earth hedgehogs! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 7:01pm
                            Middle Earth hedgehogs, you say? easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Sep 20 2012, 8:27pm
            and I am driving my fiance crazy haha architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 11:29am
    Love what we've seen of the trolls! Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 20 2012, 4:57pm
    Someone raised the issue of "friendly Gollum." SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 5:37pm
        polite gollum totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 20 2012, 5:47pm
            Polite and Happy are 2 different things Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 21 2012, 3:16am
                This is kind of how I feel Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 21 2012, 3:30am
            Uh-oh. stormcrow20 Send a private message to stormcrow20 Sep 21 2012, 7:33am
        He should still be creepy though, no? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 5:48pm
            Not the whole picture (spoiler) SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 6:05pm
                Familiarity with Gollum Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 6:34pm
            Also - hamlet Send a private message to hamlet Sep 20 2012, 7:05pm
                Oh yes indeed Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 7:13pm
                    Never mind about that I want to know why Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 20 2012, 7:30pm
                        Stop it with the being funny. Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 20 2012, 7:34pm
                        I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic toward me Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 7:39pm
                            Just a general chuckle, I assure you. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 20 2012, 7:42pm
                            Just imagine the mood swings in store SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 20 2012, 7:44pm
                                I'm not looking forward to the mood swings Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 8:09pm
                                Well just as in the text Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 20 2012, 8:39pm
        Yes, we're dealing with a different Gollum here Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Sep 20 2012, 8:47pm
        disagreehttp://newboards.theonering.net/ Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 21 2012, 3:07am
            *snicker* Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 21 2012, 3:18am
                Just his presence is a tie in Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 21 2012, 3:25am
                    True Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 21 2012, 4:44am
                        It can be done in the dark Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 21 2012, 4:56am
                            Darkness JWPlatt Sep 21 2012, 5:07am
                        To my knowledge duats Send a private message to duats Sep 21 2012, 5:44am
                            Very well said Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 21 2012, 6:16am
                                I completely disagree totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 21 2012, 6:20am
                                    Never said he wasn't pitiful Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 21 2012, 6:21am
                                        I'm simply saying I am not disappointed totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 21 2012, 6:52am
                                    I'm a little lost. here - geordie Send a private message to geordie Sep 21 2012, 9:37am
                                    but there is also never any feeling of dread Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 21 2012, 8:53pm
                                        Hmmm SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 22 2012, 2:00am
                                            I just watched the Gollum scene again totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 22 2012, 6:26am
            Takes JWPlatt Sep 21 2012, 3:22am
    Richness and depth Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 20 2012, 5:43pm
        Right on! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 5:52pm
        Agreed! architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 11:35am
        I'm with you, Sunflower! Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Oct 11 2012, 2:33am
    All is Hobbit and nothing hurts! Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 20 2012, 5:59pm
    Yay for being positive! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 6:28pm
        Not the wrath of Daniel! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 6:35pm
            There are exceptions Ardamírë! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 6:40pm
                You really ought to tell everyone Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 6:50pm
    Hey, I liked it too acheron Send a private message to acheron Sep 20 2012, 6:49pm
    But can we be surprised? mefansmum Sep 20 2012, 7:13pm
        while I understand.. droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Sep 20 2012, 7:44pm
    Not at all disappointed. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 20 2012, 7:20pm
    anyone else thinks that galadriel sounds like the borg-queen? elanesse Send a private message to elanesse Sep 20 2012, 7:34pm
        I don't hear it? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 7:37pm
            when/before she says "Mithrandir" elanesse Send a private message to elanesse Sep 20 2012, 7:39pm
                Before she says Mithrandir? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 9:40pm
                Do you mean the sound of stone grinding on stone? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2012, 10:52pm
        I think that's just Cate Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 20 2012, 7:42pm
            like darth-vader-galadriel elanesse Send a private message to elanesse Sep 20 2012, 8:10pm
    Loved the 5 alternate endings. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Sep 20 2012, 8:38pm
        Yes yes YES!!!! :) BlackCountry Send a private message to BlackCountry Sep 23 2012, 1:58pm
    My favorite shots Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 20 2012, 11:03pm
    I really liked the trailer tolkiennerd Send a private message to tolkiennerd Sep 21 2012, 1:54am
        I'm with ya Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 21 2012, 2:17am
    Okay... Intergalactic Lawman Send a private message to Intergalactic Lawman Sep 21 2012, 5:06am
    something interesting architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 11:39am
    At first I thought the trailer was just ok but now namarie Send a private message to namarie Sep 21 2012, 2:27pm
    I'm officially not disappointed Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 21 2012, 3:18pm
    Do you all think we'll get something new from WB/PJ today? Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 21 2012, 3:53pm
        was wondering this myself architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 3:55pm
            Hope we get something Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 21 2012, 4:07pm
                that may explain it architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 4:17pm
                    Almost 6:30PM here Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 21 2012, 4:21pm
        Not another TORn meltdown! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 21 2012, 6:15pm
    I liked it! Olafr Send a private message to Olafr Sep 21 2012, 4:23pm
    Never exactly like my vision of TH, but... Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Sep 21 2012, 5:47pm
        Could not agree more NT architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 21 2012, 5:50pm
            I hope NT means... Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Sep 21 2012, 7:20pm
                It means "no text" DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 21 2012, 7:23pm
                    Thanks! NT :) Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Sep 21 2012, 7:35pm
                    Subject Lines JWPlatt Sep 21 2012, 8:03pm
                        "WAAAA. WAAAAA. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!" Jettorex Send a private message to Jettorex Sep 21 2012, 8:32pm
                        I think the complete opposite! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 21 2012, 8:56pm
                        Now wait! LOTIP Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Sep 21 2012, 11:01pm

 
 
 

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