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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 11:18pm
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Although Tolkien's idea that the Eldar would 'fade' over time is a persistent idea that goes back all the way to the Lost Tales or even the prewar poems, and he never changed his mind much, it never seems to have been reflected in actual narrative; except in certain hints that 'fading' and 'dwindling' had something to do not just with living in mortal lands, but breathing air dominated by mortals, with an implication that the Age of Fading was beginning with the Fourth Age. (Although there is a suggestion that the exiled Noldor had lost some of their 'fire' after only a few centuries in Beleriand). Certainly it's the case that no Elf encountered in narrative, even the very oldest like Galadriel and Celeborn and Elrond and for that matter Cirdan seem to be in any way filmy or transparent or vaporous.
(This post was edited by Solicitr on Sep 8 2012, 11:19pm)
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Time
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When do Elves stop ageing?
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 7:20am
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The closest we can come to answers...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 8:12am
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Thank you!
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 8:24am
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This is interesting, and confusing lol
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rings7
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Sep 5 2012, 9:54pm
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Yes, that's right!
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 11:34pm
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Cirdan and Fading
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:17pm
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preservation power
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 5:37pm
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Maybe both happened
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:54pm
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Movie might be wrong
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iandea14
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Sep 6 2012, 6:59am
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Elrond
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PhantomS
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Sep 7 2012, 1:34am
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Ageless
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 3:44pm
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Living at the coast
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:21pm
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You of course meant weathered
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 4:29pm
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I don't think I'd like to see...
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:44pm
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My degree in Geography isn't wasted!!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:11pm
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I see now
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 7:16pm
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Erosion and weathering!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:23pm
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See salt
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 5:40pm
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Sea water only has about 3% salt in it /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:57pm
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But there's a lot of water...
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 6:40pm
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Mining salt from rock might be easier ;-) /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:10pm
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Tolkien IIRC wrote
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:31am
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innie or outie
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 12:57am
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Let's face it: Cirdan is an anomaly.
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Elizabeth
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Sep 8 2012, 2:44am
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facing Cirdan's face
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 3:59am
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Young MEN can have beards
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:20pm
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emphasis more on 'young' men can have beards
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 2:38pm
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Fading
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 11:18pm
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Lingering on this topic a bit
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 12:59am
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I'd say
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 3:07am
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I agree but is there a 'wrinkle' in the larger idea
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 2:48pm
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Two parallel concepts
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 4:31pm
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closing the door on the door-ward
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 7:47pm
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Counting the Rings
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Elthir
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Sep 12 2012, 4:31am
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Don't forget Cirdan the Shipwright
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mandel
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Sep 5 2012, 11:31pm
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A post from another site i found helpful - hope its ok to do this!
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imin
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Sep 6 2012, 6:43am
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Quoting others
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 12:26pm
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Tolkien's number
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 9:47pm
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A few more extracts:
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malickfan
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Sep 10 2012, 1:29pm
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