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Elthir
Grey Havens
Sep 8 2012, 12:57am
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...somewhere that Elves, at least in Middle-Earth, did age, but very very veeeery slowly, imperceptibly so. There was even a suggestion of discrete 'ages' or 'phases' of an Elf's life, in the last of which he would grow a beard (in direct contradiction of what T wrote elsewhere). Hmm, at the moment I don't recall any text that clearly refers to outward ageing, and the note in Vinyar Tengwar about the 'phases' of an Elf's life is rather brief -- it generally refers to when Elves normally grow beards, yes; and granted that's an outward sign too, but as a mortal of twenty years can grow a beard for example... And Cirdan's arguable great age really doesn't matter if Elves never look old before fading: do Tolkien's Elves age slowly (outwardly) and then fade, or do they simply fade (the hroa becoming invisible) as passages in Morgoth's Ring reveal... they certainly fade, but where is the former idea presented (again outside of Cirdan being the example that argues the idea).
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When do Elves stop ageing?
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 7:20am
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The closest we can come to answers...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 8:12am
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Thank you!
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 8:24am
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This is interesting, and confusing lol
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rings7
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Sep 5 2012, 9:54pm
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Yes, that's right!
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 11:34pm
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Cirdan and Fading
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:17pm
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preservation power
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 5:37pm
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Maybe both happened
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:54pm
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Movie might be wrong
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iandea14
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Sep 6 2012, 6:59am
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Elrond
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PhantomS
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Sep 7 2012, 1:34am
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Ageless
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 3:44pm
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Living at the coast
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:21pm
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You of course meant weathered
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 4:29pm
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I don't think I'd like to see...
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:44pm
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My degree in Geography isn't wasted!!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:11pm
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I see now
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 7:16pm
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Erosion and weathering!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:23pm
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See salt
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 5:40pm
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Sea water only has about 3% salt in it /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:57pm
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But there's a lot of water...
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 6:40pm
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Mining salt from rock might be easier ;-) /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:10pm
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Tolkien IIRC wrote
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:31am
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innie or outie
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 12:57am
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Let's face it: Cirdan is an anomaly.
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Elizabeth
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Sep 8 2012, 2:44am
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facing Cirdan's face
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 3:59am
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Young MEN can have beards
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:20pm
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emphasis more on 'young' men can have beards
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 2:38pm
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Fading
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 11:18pm
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Lingering on this topic a bit
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 12:59am
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I'd say
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 3:07am
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I agree but is there a 'wrinkle' in the larger idea
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 2:48pm
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Two parallel concepts
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 4:31pm
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closing the door on the door-ward
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 7:47pm
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Counting the Rings
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Elthir
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Sep 12 2012, 4:31am
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Don't forget Cirdan the Shipwright
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mandel
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Sep 5 2012, 11:31pm
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A post from another site i found helpful - hope its ok to do this!
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imin
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Sep 6 2012, 6:43am
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Quoting others
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 12:26pm
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Tolkien's number
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 9:47pm
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A few more extracts:
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malickfan
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Sep 10 2012, 1:29pm
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