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mandel
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Sep 5 2012, 11:31pm
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Don't forget Cirdan the Shipwright
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Apparently, when Elves become very very old, they begin to show further signs of age. The main bit of evidence is in the character of Cirdan the Shipwright, caretaker of the Grey Havens, who has a long grey beard. As I understand it, he is perhaps among those Elves who were born in Cuivienen before the Elves originally undertook the voyage to the Undying Lands. (I take it some people think he might even be among the 144 Elves who first awoke there; but this is controversial). Mostly, I know about Cirdan because of a long blog essay by Paul Ashwell, who participates on this site under the username "malickfan." This essay is here: http://paulashwellreviews.wordpress.com/...e-tolkien-fans-only/
(This post was edited by mandel on Sep 5 2012, 11:32pm)
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Time
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When do Elves stop ageing?
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 7:20am
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The closest we can come to answers...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 8:12am
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Thank you!
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iandea14
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Sep 5 2012, 8:24am
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This is interesting, and confusing lol
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rings7
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Sep 5 2012, 9:54pm
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Yes, that's right!
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Elizabeth
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Sep 5 2012, 11:34pm
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Cirdan and Fading
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:17pm
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preservation power
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 5:37pm
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Maybe both happened
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 6 2012, 5:54pm
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Movie might be wrong
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iandea14
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Sep 6 2012, 6:59am
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Elrond
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PhantomS
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Sep 7 2012, 1:34am
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Ageless
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 3:44pm
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Living at the coast
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:21pm
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You of course meant weathered
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 4:29pm
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I don't think I'd like to see...
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 4:44pm
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My degree in Geography isn't wasted!!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:11pm
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I see now
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Sep 7 2012, 7:16pm
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Erosion and weathering!
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:23pm
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See salt
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 5:40pm
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Sea water only has about 3% salt in it /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 5:57pm
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But there's a lot of water...
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Elthir
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Sep 7 2012, 6:40pm
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Mining salt from rock might be easier ;-) /
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DanielLB
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Sep 7 2012, 7:10pm
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Tolkien IIRC wrote
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:31am
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innie or outie
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 12:57am
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Let's face it: Cirdan is an anomaly.
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Elizabeth
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Sep 8 2012, 2:44am
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facing Cirdan's face
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 3:59am
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Young MEN can have beards
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 12:20pm
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emphasis more on 'young' men can have beards
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Elthir
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Sep 8 2012, 2:38pm
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Fading
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Solicitr
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Sep 8 2012, 11:18pm
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Lingering on this topic a bit
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 12:59am
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I'd say
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 3:07am
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I agree but is there a 'wrinkle' in the larger idea
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 2:48pm
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Two parallel concepts
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Solicitr
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Sep 9 2012, 4:31pm
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closing the door on the door-ward
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Elthir
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Sep 9 2012, 7:47pm
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Counting the Rings
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Elthir
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Sep 12 2012, 4:31am
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Don't forget Cirdan the Shipwright
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mandel
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Sep 5 2012, 11:31pm
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A post from another site i found helpful - hope its ok to do this!
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imin
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Sep 6 2012, 6:43am
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Quoting others
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 12:26pm
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Tolkien's number
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Elthir
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Sep 6 2012, 9:47pm
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A few more extracts:
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malickfan
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Sep 10 2012, 1:29pm
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