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I don't care about continuity

Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 25 2012, 7:52pm


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I don't care about continuity [In reply to] Can't Post
...between the films, so no, I don't see it as a good thing.

I wanted to see another director adapt the Hobbit book, not the same director adapt the book to fit his previous films.

But this is all very simple. If you absolutely adored PJ's LOTR, than you are likely to be happy about him directing again. If you thought they were general subpar films, then you might not be happy about him directing again.

Simple, really. Smile

However, I am optimistic that three films will allow Jackson to do a better job of creating a believable and immersive story.


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Aug 25 2012, 7:53pm)

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Jackson comments on Del Toro's vision of The Hobbit There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Aug 24 2012, 10:36pm
    You beat me to it by seconds! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 24 2012, 10:39pm
        apologies! There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Aug 24 2012, 10:42pm
            I hope so too DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 24 2012, 10:46pm
        I am with you. lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Aug 24 2012, 11:57pm
        If GDT had.... Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 12:15am
            Thorin was NOT described with antlers Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:21am
                I'm not criticising though. Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 3:32am
                    You stated Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:36am
                        He was described as having antlers.... Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 3:42am
                            No they didn't Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:50am
                                I don't read the New Yorker Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 4:13am
                                    They did post links to the article right here on TheOneRing.net AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 25 2012, 4:31am
                                        It missing one article a crime? Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 4:35am
                                            But that's not the point Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 4:43am
                                    Understood Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 4:34am
                            There might have been some confusion because of SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 4:23am
                                The King Balor design is excellent Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 4:29am
                                    Aside: It was upon seeing HB II SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 4:50am
                                        oh i agree MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 4:53am
                                        I don't know HBII geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 25 2012, 3:20pm
                                            He is the film's villain Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 3:36pm
                                                Ah, thanks for that - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 25 2012, 3:53pm
                                                    That's not all Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 4:22pm
                                                        When it comes to design, the guy can be counted on to go deep. SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 7:32pm
                                It's a lovely design for a king... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 25 2012, 9:59am
                                    Yeah this is how i feel, would be nice in the future to see other adaptations but for now im pleased its PJ as i like his LOTR :) imin Send a private message to imin Aug 25 2012, 10:05am
                                        Agreed as well / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 25 2012, 10:19am
                                    Of the same mind SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 2:08pm
        Remember that GDT hired John Howe and Alan Lee to work on the films Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 12:01pm
            That is true DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 25 2012, 2:36pm
    Such a shame to miss out on a different vision Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 24 2012, 10:44pm
        I'm with you . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 24 2012, 11:00pm
            Some of GdT's 'Hobbit' designs surfaced in an earlier interview Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25 2012, 7:00pm
                Those were all preliminary Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 25 2012, 7:06pm
                    GdT's preliminary designs Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25 2012, 7:10pm
                        But how Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:16pm
                            They weren't that different, I suppose.... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25 2012, 7:20pm
                Just a niggle: that interview was done quite some time before he left SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 7:53pm
                    Thanx - I was working from memory... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25 2012, 8:07pm
        I would quite like Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Aug 24 2012, 11:42pm
        PJ and co. have monopolized Tolkien and Del Toro's filmic interpretation..... MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 1:05am
            You sound like a broken record. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Aug 25 2012, 1:16am
                seems like you like the glass half empty MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 1:27am
                    And, and didn't he give us the phrase, "for pete's sake?" // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 1:38am
                        LOL MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 1:44am
            You say the same thing in every thread, lol imin Send a private message to imin Aug 25 2012, 8:36am
                Had PJ not made the trilogy DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 25 2012, 9:24am
                    Well we cant know now obviously imin Send a private message to imin Aug 25 2012, 9:46am
                        I'm not *that* familiar with Nolan DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 25 2012, 10:18am
                            He had made a few at that point imin Send a private message to imin Aug 25 2012, 10:26am
                            As much as I like Nolan, he would be a poor fit for Tolkien Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 12:25pm
                                Yeah i dont think he would be a great fit for Tolkien imin Send a private message to imin Aug 25 2012, 12:37pm
                    In regards to which work? AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 25 2012, 9:51pm
                        The "naffness" of it DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 26 2012, 9:39am
        Monopolized? GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Aug 25 2012, 1:42am
            Once again, putting words in my mouth. Helps with creating straw men... Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:26am
                You said monopolized. GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Aug 25 2012, 12:49pm
        ... Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 25 2012, 2:34am
        I feel quite oppositely... dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Aug 25 2012, 2:44am
            its kinda like saying MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 3:23am
            All good points Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:31am
            GDT is obviously a fantasy fan Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 25 2012, 3:38am
                Agreed. Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 3:40am
                Well, I meant the Tolkien-ish brand of fantasy... dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Aug 25 2012, 12:22pm
                    Fairy tales like 'The Hobbit'? // Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 12:31pm
                        Found the quote. dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Aug 25 2012, 12:35pm
                            I'll let GDT speak for himself Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 12:45pm
                                That's a strong about-face from him EXPLICITLY saying: dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Aug 25 2012, 12:53pm
                                    You know something is wrong... Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 2:00pm
                                    I have to agree with you... droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 25 2012, 3:05pm
                                    I think he had simply not read the Hobbit Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:02pm
                                        I eat my peas with honey - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 25 2012, 7:08pm
                                            You've gone and done it now Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 8:43pm
                                        PJ said he did not read The Lord of the Rings SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 8:10pm
                                            PJ does often state Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 8:33pm
            one point... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 25 2012, 3:43am
                Yes, they work for PJ. But: dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Aug 25 2012, 12:24pm
        I second that Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Aug 25 2012, 3:16pm
        I wouldn't consider this a monopoly by PJ and Co rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 25 2012, 6:05pm
            Exactly, GDT's departure was his own decision. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 6:23pm
                It's not a conspiracy theory so much as an observation Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 6:59pm
                    Well... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 7:28pm
                        You are assuming that "monopoly" Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:36pm
                            I am not assuming anything - I was responding to Flagg // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 7:37pm
                                As I said above, I am not commenting on the politics that led to six PJ-directed films Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 25 2012, 8:12pm
                                    Totally disagree. Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 25 2012, 8:40pm
                                        No need to draw such extreme implications from my statement Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 26 2012, 1:31pm
                            But... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 7:42pm
                                good points MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 25 2012, 7:49pm
                                    This makes a great deal of sense SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 26 2012, 2:21am
                                I don't care about continuity Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:52pm
                                    You don't care about continuity? macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 8:51pm
                                        As Ralph Waldo Emerson stated Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 8:54pm
                                            Let's have MORE 'artistry'!!!! Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 25 2012, 9:21pm
                                                Well, there are obvious limits Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 9:44pm
                                                    ... Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 25 2012, 10:44pm
                                                I understand that you're being sarcastic Ruinwen Send a private message to Ruinwen Aug 25 2012, 9:53pm
                                                    Well said. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 10:46pm
                                            When did I say this? macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 10:49pm
                                                i think artistry should be taken in context Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 25 2012, 10:56pm
                                                    He did indeed macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 25 2012, 11:04pm
                                                    nope Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 26 2012, 12:07am
                                                        and Tolkien himself Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 26 2012, 12:19am
                                                            the facts Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 26 2012, 1:49am
                                                                bottom line is Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 26 2012, 6:23pm
                                                                    I am sad that he did abandon it droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 6:58pm
                                                                        People are free to retell it Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 7:56pm
                                                                            It's not the... droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 8:00pm
                                                                                He never displayed that attitude Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 8:04pm
                                                                                    Ok droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 8:07pm
                                                                                        Oh, sure Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 8:28pm
                                                                            although MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 26 2012, 8:44pm
                                                                                Right Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 10:00pm
                                                                                    absolutely MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 26 2012, 10:13pm
                                                                                        Great! Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 10:16pm
                                                                                    Not helping in making a point here rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 4:51am
                                                                                        He has never been negative about the films "coming out" Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 6:24am
                                                                                            I know he's only been negative about the quality of the films rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 3:34pm
                                                                                                I think PJ's films Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 3:48pm
                                                                                                    He tried and he walked out. rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 4:13pm
                                                                                                        Nearly everything I say here Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 5:15pm
                                                                                                    I know I keep saying this - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 27 2012, 5:25pm
                                                                                                        Just one example Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 28 2012, 4:05am
                                                                                                            I don't know about "improvement" Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 28 2012, 11:51am
                                                                                                    The films are generally held in high regard kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Aug 28 2012, 8:26pm
                                                                                                It's Not B&W JWPlatt Aug 27 2012, 5:47pm
                                                                                                    Exactly Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 6:25pm
                                                                                                    I didn't think i was being B&W rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 7:22pm
                                                                                                    Ha, It was me!!! AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 29 2012, 4:54am
                                                                                    its not a circle of negativity as you have articulated MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 27 2012, 4:57am
                                                                                        I never said the point was PJ making money out of the movies. rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 5:12am
                                                                                        There's no reason for PJ to make negative comments about CT Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 6:29am
                                                                                            no, i understand MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 27 2012, 7:06am
                                                                                            Well... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 27 2012, 8:03am
                                                                                                Poor Sample JWPlatt Aug 27 2012, 8:11am
                                                                                                reply imin Send a private message to imin Aug 27 2012, 7:42pm
                                                                                                You have to be kidding me rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 27 2012, 8:32pm
                                                                                                    CT has never said he hasn't seen the films, as far as I know Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 11:44pm
                                                                                                        Well yeah that's what i thought rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 28 2012, 2:56am
                                                                                                    Christopher has seen them - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 29 2012, 12:25pm
                                                                                                        Then again, macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 29 2012, 1:34pm
                                                                                                            This is true - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 29 2012, 5:25pm
                                                                                                                I believe John Rateliff (author of History of The Hobbit) likes them too // kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Aug 29 2012, 11:59pm
                                                                                                                    Thanks - geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 30 2012, 12:03pm
                                                                                                        Interestingly Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 29 2012, 3:02pm
                                                                                                            Actually, geordie Send a private message to geordie Aug 29 2012, 5:41pm
                                                                                                                indeed Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 29 2012, 11:16pm
                                                                                                                An unfair assumption SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 30 2012, 2:00am
                                                                        Clarification JWPlatt Aug 26 2012, 8:19pm
                                                                            I don't droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 8:29pm
                                                                                Attribution JWPlatt Aug 26 2012, 8:39pm
                                                                                    Is this directed at me? droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 8:44pm
                                                                                    You don't have to be a trained detective... Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 26 2012, 8:47pm
                                                                                        I agree droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Aug 26 2012, 8:49pm
                                                                                        Right Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 9:56pm
                                                            Do we have to view everything from the original perspective? GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Aug 26 2012, 3:03am
                                        what aspects of continuity are you particularly concerned about between The Hobbit and LoTR? elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Aug 26 2012, 12:52am
                Nooneever suggested a conspiracy Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:14pm
    I understand Peter's decision. Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 24 2012, 10:48pm
        Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 24 2012, 11:02pm
            It's a good thing Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 24 2012, 11:26pm
                But some of us like a little variety . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 24 2012, 11:28pm
                    Comfort food vs. variety lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Aug 25 2012, 12:02am
                        good analogy TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 25 2012, 12:09am
                            Perhaps he's grown by now. lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Aug 25 2012, 12:12am
    The Hobbit wasnt the time for a ''New Vision''. Gorbag Send a private message to Gorbag Aug 24 2012, 11:34pm
        But it was the time to test run a radically new film format? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 12:49am
            If it was up to me... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Aug 25 2012, 3:45am
    Comparing PJ and GDT Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Aug 25 2012, 12:02am
    Media Literacy 101 SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 1:21am
        Sir PJ has a lot of experience with diplomacy Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 25 2012, 1:24am
            Yes I think so too... SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 1:32am
    What might have been HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Aug 25 2012, 1:42am
    Jackson's vision Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 25 2012, 4:24pm
        I suggested this possible scenario a while back Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 25 2012, 7:12pm
            Well as long as we are casting caution to the wind SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 10:00pm
                Wow. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Aug 25 2012, 10:19pm
                    Yeah you know SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 25 2012, 10:32pm
                        Some NZers Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Aug 25 2012, 10:48pm
                            Exactly Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 2:44am
                                My point Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Aug 26 2012, 3:16am
                                    Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 3:28am
                                        Like Sweden? // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 26 2012, 9:02am
                                    Yes, SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 26 2012, 3:32am
                        guillermo Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 26 2012, 12:01am
                    Del toro's exit was clearly stated by Del toro himself MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Aug 26 2012, 1:56am
                yes Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 25 2012, 10:21pm
                    At least in the United States Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 26 2012, 2:40am
                        Sirdennisc Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 26 2012, 2:48am
                Well that is interesting. . . especially on an island chain where the natives are dark indeed AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 26 2012, 2:42am
                    Just to halt this here SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 26 2012, 3:13am
                        Ah, dear Sibling to The North AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 26 2012, 3:17am
                    Please... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 26 2012, 9:02am
                    Maori, actually lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Aug 26 2012, 1:09pm
                        How long have those people been there? AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 26 2012, 9:36pm
                            Just FYI - Googled it lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Aug 26 2012, 10:04pm
                Too far, SirDennis... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 26 2012, 8:30am
                    Well said, dormouse. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 26 2012, 9:03am
                    "Casting caution to the wind" is like that SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 26 2012, 2:05pm
                        ... Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 26 2012, 2:59pm
                            I often wonder where people find unidirectional magnifying glasses SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 27 2012, 1:38am
                                ... Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Aug 27 2012, 2:38am
                                    Conspiracy theories Noria Send a private message to Noria Aug 27 2012, 1:23pm
                                        There is a difference between a conspiracy theory Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 2:50pm
                                    Points for being forthright SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 27 2012, 6:40pm
                                        ... Noria Send a private message to Noria Aug 28 2012, 11:52am
                                            I knew there was something about you that I liked SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 28 2012, 3:11pm
    Coulda shoulda woulda rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Aug 25 2012, 6:08pm
        Forum Policy JWPlatt Aug 25 2012, 8:35pm
    Just as Peter turned GDT loose grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Aug 26 2012, 6:19pm
        Agreed.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Aug 26 2012, 8:41pm
    As far as I can see there still seems to be quite a bit of Del Toro left elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Aug 27 2012, 1:25pm
    Antler headgear - perhaps transferred to Thranduil? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 27 2012, 6:54pm
    This is a rare thread indeed... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Aug 29 2012, 4:26pm
        I depends how you have the page set Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 29 2012, 5:16pm

 
 
 

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