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dormouse
Half-elven
Aug 18 2012, 7:34pm
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I don't think I've drawn any lines in any sand and if I had, sand is very changeable stuff. Lines disappear with the first incoming tide. I just want to see the film, as is, without preconceived ideas. Haven't a clue right now about what they're doing with Azog, Bolg, the Necromancer and all points east, but once I've seen it, I'll judge. And if, when, I've heard their reasoning for whatever it was they did, I'll think about it again. What I won't do is start getting excited over ideas people come up with on the forum, entertaining though they are, because no one here knows what will happen, it's all guesswork. And if someone does come out with a definite view on something, and changes their mind later, why is that a problem?
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My Dear TheOneRing kindred, how fast thou dost retreat from the lines you draw in the sand, concerning The Hobbit
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 2:34pm
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Everything is pure conjecture. Same happened with LOTR.
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Gorbag
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Aug 18 2012, 2:55pm
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People don't like to say they don't know.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 18 2012, 2:57pm
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People have a right to change their minds based on new information, and their reasons should be their own, not subject to a speculative "reality check"
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MatthewJer18
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Aug 18 2012, 3:02pm
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I will admit...
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DanielLB
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Aug 18 2012, 3:06pm
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I thought 3 films was a great idea from the beginning
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 18 2012, 3:17pm
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well we dont need a reality check ..noooo thank you!
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Lusitano
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Aug 18 2012, 3:24pm
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I think they should make ten films
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Spaldron
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Aug 18 2012, 3:27pm
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Can we have Bombadil on an Oliphaunt as well? /
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DanielLB
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Aug 18 2012, 3:50pm
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You have a right to your opinion but I dont like these ideas.
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Dlanor da Great
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Aug 19 2012, 12:26am
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Erm.....
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Spaldron
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Aug 19 2012, 1:15am
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Didn't anyone tell you that sarcasm does not work on the boards?
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:19am
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Damn, I knew there was something....
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Spaldron
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Aug 19 2012, 1:24am
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Yes I know, I was being sarcastic as well
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Dlanor da Great
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Aug 20 2012, 6:21pm
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I am blinded by the light!
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:11am
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PJ's The Hobbit will be very different from Tolkien's
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Kassandros
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Aug 18 2012, 3:30pm
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I think PJ's films
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 18 2012, 3:31pm
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I agree with some of what you say, but
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kzer_za
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Aug 18 2012, 3:54pm
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...and what of us who started off with praise?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 18 2012, 5:42pm
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Well, of course, shame on you from beginning to end and at all points between lol
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 6:11pm
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yes
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Lusitano
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Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
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On that note, I heartily agree...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
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Indeed.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 7:05pm
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Hmmm, I'm one of those people!
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warhorse
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Aug 28 2012, 1:17am
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My Scribbles in the Sand....
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Bladerunner
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Aug 18 2012, 7:28pm
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A very detailed consideration
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 7:37pm
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Speculation is just that...
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Buchanicus
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Aug 18 2012, 8:46pm
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Not if a change is made. Lots of minor changes are just fine.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 9:08pm
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They are both changes. But I wouldn't object to either on that basis.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 18 2012, 9:28pm
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I absolutely cannot. I can picture a situation where it would do a fantastic job of
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 5:08am
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Well an adaptation
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 9:50am
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And, at some point Lacrimae, it ceases to be a direct adaptation and becomes instead
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 5:38pm
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I am not aware of any definition of that point
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 6:34pm
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 19 2012, 6:49pm
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Not only does the distinction exist (hard as it may be to pinpoint, admittedly)
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 7:01pm
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I expect nothing of the sort!
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
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"increasingly the news we are getting"....
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dormouse
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Aug 19 2012, 10:10pm
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I agree
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Tim
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Aug 19 2012, 10:31pm
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Wasn't sure how to respond....
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Bladerunner
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Aug 19 2012, 2:00pm
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No...I wasn't replying to you...just making a general statement.
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Buchanicus
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Aug 19 2012, 7:14pm
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Er.... well...
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dormouse
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Aug 18 2012, 7:34pm
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It seems that these films continually confound out expectations (for better or worse)
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Captain Salt
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Aug 18 2012, 10:58pm
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This is exactly how i feel
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imin
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Aug 18 2012, 11:42pm
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Undead orcs, undead Smaug
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Ziggy Stardust
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Aug 18 2012, 11:41pm
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My
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:31am
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My opinions have never changed and never will
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 3:55pm
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I take it you are upset with the way things have gone.
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 4:30pm
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extremely upset actually
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 5:01pm
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All Right there Zac! (Dr. Seuss Reffernce lol) I certainly admire your constancy,
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 6:24pm
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seems to me though
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 12:26am
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Adapt or die.
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Bumblingidiot
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Aug 20 2012, 2:47am
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I agree
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 2:51am
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The context is that of the post-LOTR reader
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 20 2012, 12:32pm
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wel if they want an abstract adaptation maybe PJ should have hired
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 3:20pm
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Would you really place Tim Burton and Michael Bay on the same level?
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Flagg
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Aug 20 2012, 3:49pm
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I am inclined to agree with you on this.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 20 2012, 9:22pm
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Not sure I understand this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 20 2012, 3:50pm
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"They have a cave troll..."
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 4:00pm
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I think PJ is a far better director than Bay
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 20 2012, 4:10pm
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I must disagree
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 4:20pm
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Still
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 20 2012, 5:46pm
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Yes, could we
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Phibbus
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Aug 20 2012, 9:35pm
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I agree Bay is not as good as Jackson
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 4:54pm
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What agenda?
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 6:01pm
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No agenda
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Ziggy Stardust
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Aug 21 2012, 12:24am
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Silly hippie...
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 21 2012, 12:41am
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So your telling me Bay isn't a multi million dollar making director?
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Sinister71
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Aug 21 2012, 1:20am
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Can you see any bird crap?
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Spaldron
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Aug 21 2012, 2:43pm
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well it is a publicity ahot
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Sinister71
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Aug 21 2012, 5:17pm
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But it takes someone special
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 20 2012, 2:53am
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well I personally don't want more LOTR
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 3:07am
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Then thank Ilúvatar you're not directing these...
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 12:01pm
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It always seemed to me that Tolkien was -
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Hanzkaz
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Aug 20 2012, 9:36am
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Have you seen the films already?
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 12:53am
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And your obviously ignoring material being presented
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 1:59am
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Enough
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Silverlode
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Aug 20 2012, 2:59am
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hmm
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 6:04pm
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When the new information is nothing more than a confirmation of things one claims to have been
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 6:36pm
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It sounds like a lot of the invented material
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 6:43pm
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thing is
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
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There is an enemy and more than a footnote about the necromancer in the appendices. //
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 7:23pm
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and using that information
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:28pm
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You are in luck!
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 7:32pm
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I read the book frequently
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:37pm
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1) There's no point in complaining about things we can't change. 2) Most of us are determined to *enjoy* these films when they are finished.
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Oin K
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Aug 22 2012, 9:25pm
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