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MatthewJer18
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Aug 18 2012, 3:02pm
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People have a right to change their minds based on new information, and their reasons should be their own, not subject to a speculative "reality check"
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Having said that, most people around here seem to be the same. There's a group supporting most of the changes, a group not supporting most of them and then a group squarely in the middle. I don't pay enough attention to specific members to notice when they change their minds, and even if they have I will trust that they had good reasons to do so until I'm shown specific evidence to the contrary.
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My Dear TheOneRing kindred, how fast thou dost retreat from the lines you draw in the sand, concerning The Hobbit
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 2:34pm
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Everything is pure conjecture. Same happened with LOTR.
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Gorbag
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Aug 18 2012, 2:55pm
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People don't like to say they don't know.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 18 2012, 2:57pm
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People have a right to change their minds based on new information, and their reasons should be their own, not subject to a speculative "reality check"
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MatthewJer18
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Aug 18 2012, 3:02pm
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I will admit...
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DanielLB
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Aug 18 2012, 3:06pm
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I thought 3 films was a great idea from the beginning
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 18 2012, 3:17pm
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well we dont need a reality check ..noooo thank you!
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Lusitano
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Aug 18 2012, 3:24pm
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I think they should make ten films
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Spaldron
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Aug 18 2012, 3:27pm
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Can we have Bombadil on an Oliphaunt as well? /
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DanielLB
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Aug 18 2012, 3:50pm
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You have a right to your opinion but I dont like these ideas.
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Dlanor da Great
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Aug 19 2012, 12:26am
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Erm.....
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Spaldron
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Aug 19 2012, 1:15am
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Didn't anyone tell you that sarcasm does not work on the boards?
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:19am
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Damn, I knew there was something....
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Spaldron
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Aug 19 2012, 1:24am
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Yes I know, I was being sarcastic as well
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Dlanor da Great
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Aug 20 2012, 6:21pm
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I am blinded by the light!
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:11am
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PJ's The Hobbit will be very different from Tolkien's
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Kassandros
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Aug 18 2012, 3:30pm
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I think PJ's films
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 18 2012, 3:31pm
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I agree with some of what you say, but
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kzer_za
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Aug 18 2012, 3:54pm
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...and what of us who started off with praise?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 18 2012, 5:42pm
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Well, of course, shame on you from beginning to end and at all points between lol
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 6:11pm
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yes
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Lusitano
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Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
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On that note, I heartily agree...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Aug 18 2012, 6:22pm
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Indeed.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 7:05pm
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Hmmm, I'm one of those people!
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warhorse
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Aug 28 2012, 1:17am
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My Scribbles in the Sand....
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Bladerunner
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Aug 18 2012, 7:28pm
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A very detailed consideration
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 7:37pm
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Speculation is just that...
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Buchanicus
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Aug 18 2012, 8:46pm
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Not if a change is made. Lots of minor changes are just fine.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 18 2012, 9:08pm
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They are both changes. But I wouldn't object to either on that basis.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 18 2012, 9:28pm
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I absolutely cannot. I can picture a situation where it would do a fantastic job of
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 5:08am
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Well an adaptation
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 9:50am
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And, at some point Lacrimae, it ceases to be a direct adaptation and becomes instead
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 5:38pm
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I am not aware of any definition of that point
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 6:34pm
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 19 2012, 6:49pm
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Not only does the distinction exist (hard as it may be to pinpoint, admittedly)
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 7:01pm
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I expect nothing of the sort!
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
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"increasingly the news we are getting"....
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dormouse
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Aug 19 2012, 10:10pm
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I agree
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Tim
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Aug 19 2012, 10:31pm
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Wasn't sure how to respond....
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Bladerunner
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Aug 19 2012, 2:00pm
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No...I wasn't replying to you...just making a general statement.
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Buchanicus
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Aug 19 2012, 7:14pm
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Er.... well...
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dormouse
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Aug 18 2012, 7:34pm
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It seems that these films continually confound out expectations (for better or worse)
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Captain Salt
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Aug 18 2012, 10:58pm
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This is exactly how i feel
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imin
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Aug 18 2012, 11:42pm
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Undead orcs, undead Smaug
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Ziggy Stardust
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Aug 18 2012, 11:41pm
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My
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 1:31am
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My opinions have never changed and never will
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 3:55pm
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I take it you are upset with the way things have gone.
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 19 2012, 4:30pm
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extremely upset actually
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 5:01pm
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All Right there Zac! (Dr. Seuss Reffernce lol) I certainly admire your constancy,
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 6:24pm
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seems to me though
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 12:26am
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Adapt or die.
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Bumblingidiot
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Aug 20 2012, 2:47am
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I agree
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 2:51am
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The context is that of the post-LOTR reader
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 20 2012, 12:32pm
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wel if they want an abstract adaptation maybe PJ should have hired
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 3:20pm
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Would you really place Tim Burton and Michael Bay on the same level?
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Flagg
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Aug 20 2012, 3:49pm
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I am inclined to agree with you on this.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 20 2012, 9:22pm
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Not sure I understand this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 20 2012, 3:50pm
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"They have a cave troll..."
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 4:00pm
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I think PJ is a far better director than Bay
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 20 2012, 4:10pm
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I must disagree
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 4:20pm
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Still
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 20 2012, 5:46pm
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Yes, could we
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Phibbus
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Aug 20 2012, 9:35pm
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I agree Bay is not as good as Jackson
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 4:54pm
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What agenda?
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 6:01pm
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No agenda
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Ziggy Stardust
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Aug 21 2012, 12:24am
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Silly hippie...
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 21 2012, 12:41am
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So your telling me Bay isn't a multi million dollar making director?
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Sinister71
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Aug 21 2012, 1:20am
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Can you see any bird crap?
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Spaldron
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Aug 21 2012, 2:43pm
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well it is a publicity ahot
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Sinister71
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Aug 21 2012, 5:17pm
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But it takes someone special
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Kangi Ska
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Aug 20 2012, 2:53am
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well I personally don't want more LOTR
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 3:07am
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Then thank Ilúvatar you're not directing these...
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 12:01pm
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It always seemed to me that Tolkien was -
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Hanzkaz
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Aug 20 2012, 9:36am
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Have you seen the films already?
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Spaldron
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Aug 20 2012, 12:53am
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And your obviously ignoring material being presented
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Sinister71
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Aug 20 2012, 1:59am
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Enough
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Silverlode
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Aug 20 2012, 2:59am
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hmm
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 6:04pm
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When the new information is nothing more than a confirmation of things one claims to have been
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 19 2012, 6:36pm
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It sounds like a lot of the invented material
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 6:43pm
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thing is
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:11pm
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There is an enemy and more than a footnote about the necromancer in the appendices. //
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 7:23pm
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and using that information
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:28pm
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You are in luck!
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Escapist
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Aug 19 2012, 7:32pm
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I read the book frequently
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Sinister71
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Aug 19 2012, 7:37pm
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1) There's no point in complaining about things we can't change. 2) Most of us are determined to *enjoy* these films when they are finished.
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Oin K
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Aug 22 2012, 9:25pm
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