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Miruvorheron
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Aug 16 2012, 1:42pm


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I speak German and translated it for you. It should be better to understand than the Google translation ;)
There are some very interesting informations in there that Google could not translate. For example the white warg is a she-wolf.

Here is the complete translation:


BILBO BAGGINS
Like all hobbits Bilbo Baggins appreciates his comfortable life. He is completely satisfied with a full pantry and a good book. When the wizard Gandalf shows up unexpectedly with 13 dwarves and asks him to accompany him on a dangerous adventure, Bilbo’s life changes from scratch. He is initially skeptical, but because he is adventurous, he joins the group of Thorin Oakenshield and becomes the "master thief" they need to outwit a ferocious dragon and to bring back the stolen treasure of the dwarves. To everyone's surprise - including his own - Bilbo turns out to be smarter and braver than the outward appearance would suggest.


GANDALF THE GREY
Gandalf is one of the most powerful wizards in Middle Earth. He participates in the mission to free the dwarf kingdom of Erebor and retrieve the vast treasure which is guarded there in stone halls by the fire-breathing dragon Smaug the Terrible. On his way Gandalf finds indication that the world could be haunted by an ancient evil. To get to the truth of the matter, Gandalf has to leave his companions on their own devices - his own path leads him into the darkest corners of Middle-earth, where he found his worst suspicions confirmed.


THORIN OAKENSIELD
As a young dwarf prince Thorin has witnessed the terrible devastation that has brought a fire-breathing dragon on the dwarf kingdom of Erebor. No one assisted the surviving dwarves - so the once proud and noble people had to go into exile. During the long years of misery Thorin grew into a strong, fearless fighter and revered leader. In his heart grew the burning desire to win back his homeland and destroy the beast, which is responsible for the plight of his people.


BALIN
Balin is a noble dwarf and one of the oldest members in the dwarf company. By nature wise and gentle, he had to get used to a military life, as he hovered constantly between life and death. As a close cousin of Thorin Oakenshield he is one of his closest and most trusted advisers. But deep in his heart the wisest and most faithful of the dwarves asks, whether it is wise to try to reclaim the Lonely Mountain.


DWALIN
The famous warrior Dwalin does not keep his opinions to himself. Anyone who messes with him should be on guard. His belief in Thorin's leadership is unshakable. The powerful, gruff warrior can dish it out and tends to distrust all non-dwarfs - primarily the Elves. He is proud, brave and one of the largest dwarves - he subordinates only to someone who he respects.


FILI
Fili is from the royal line of Durin and grew up under the watchful eye of his uncle Thorin Oakenshield. The brothers Fili and Kili are among the youngest in the group of dwarves. Fili has hardly traveled - he has never seen the legendary dwarf city of Erebor. For the experienced fighters the trip to the Lonely Mountain is an exciting adventure - he cannot imagine the least of the challenges and dangers that await him.


KILI
Kili is Filis younger brother and the faithful nephew of Thorin Oakenshield. The airily and even careless Kili has lived a sheltered and carefree life until now. He looks good, has strong muscles and is well provided with the invincible courage of the youth. As a capable fighter and an excellent archer he is familiar with weapons since his early childhood. As one of the youngest in the dwarf company Kili wants to distinguish himself and make an impression.


BOFUR
The sympathetic Bofur has the terrible habit to utter self-evident things - he babbles off without thinking. Bofur appreciates music and has a good singing voice, he gets into good food and good company, and above all, he remains optimistic in every situation. He is not particularly brave, but comes to everybodys aid when it is needed - above all, he supports his friends. With his brother Bombur and his cousin Bifur he accompanies the companions to lonely mountain, because he wants to make his fortune. He has also heard that there is free beer.


BIFUR
Bifur is from the west, and carries the rusted remains of an orc ax in his forehead. Since this he cannot speak anymore, and sometimes he gets violent! He communicates only through grunts and hand signals. Unlike the other dwarves in the company he is not related to Thorin and also does not come from a noble lineage, but is a descendant of miners and blacksmiths - ordinary people with simple needs.


BOMBUR
Bofurs brother and Bifurs cousin is the chef cook of the dwarf host. His huge size and his voracious appetite often bring problems with them - but the company like himself can laugh at it heartily. Although he's fat, he proves to be a surprisingly agile fighter - woe to those that keep him from his dinner!


GLOIN
Of all the fellows in the dwarf company heading out to the Lonely Mountain, Gloin is the loudest and most stubborn - fearless, he is questioning all authority. He has a quick temper, but is also strong, courageous and loyal. Gloin is one of the few married dwarves in the group (basically, there is a lack of female dwarfs). His wife is a famous beauty with a very fine beard. Gloin is the proud father of a young son named Gimli, who later becomes one of the famous Fellowship of the Ring.


OIN
This courageous dwarf from the north is like his brother Gloin a distant cousin of Thorin Oakenshield. They are members of Thorin & Co., because they feel obligated to their relatives, and because they have invested a considerable sum of money into the company. Oin is very well read, likes to ask questions, is the healer of the crowd and in doing so uses self mixed up ointments.


DORI
Dori is distantly related to Thorin Oakenshield and the is the elder brother of Nori and Ori. Dori is the strongest dwarf in the company and spends most of his time taking care of Ori, the youngest, so that he does not get a cold or is killed by the Orcs and Wargs. He is an eternal pessimist and always prepared for the worst - yet he is always ready to put his life on the line in order to fulfill his mission.


NORI
Of all the companions in Thorin Oakenshield’s company Nori is the most difficult to categorize. Again and again he comes into conflict with the dwarf authorities. Because he thinks it is necessary to leave his residence, he is at once ready to join the journey to the Lonely Mountain, since he does not understand that the problems that lie ahead of him are much more serious than the ones he wants to escape. No one really knows what Nori leads up to, except that it is risky and probably illegal. Dori, Nori and Ori hold unswervingly faithful together. Among themselves they are quarreling continually, but beware if anyone should dare to inflict any harm to one of the brothers!


ORI
The younger brother of Dori and Nori is artistically gifted - often we see how he draws or writes in his diary. Ori wrote a large part of the chronicle of the journey through Wilderland to the shores of Long Lake and the slopes of Lonely Mountain. Ori is polite, well educated and accustomed to being pushed around by his older brother Dori. Normally, he is obedient, but sometimes he surprises his companions with his courage and his determination.


RADAGAST THE BROWN
Radagast is forgetful, seems to be slightly absent-minded and very eccentric. He talks preferably with animals than with people. As a magician colleague and friend of Gandalf the Grey Radagast is one of the guardians of the great forests of Middle-earth. Often you meet him on his walks through the woods near his strange little house called Rhosgobel. The little wizard senses impending doom, because not everything is as it should be in the dark corners of Mirkwood.


SARUMAN THE WHITE
The venerable and mighty Saruman belongs with four other wizards to the Guardians of Middle Earth that care for order and balance in the world. Especially Saruman arranges the fate of the free nations at his own discretion. As head of the White Council, he fears with growing unease that Gandalf the Grey and Thorin Oakenshield’s companions could mess up his careful calculations. Saruman is indeed very old and wise but gives in to his subliminal weakness and is greedy for power - a greed that ultimately produces the most deadly of all unions.


ELROND
Elrond is one of the oldest and wisest Elves who still live in Middle Earth. He is the Lord of Rivendell, the last homely house east of the Sea. Thorin & Co. stay only for a short time in Rivendell, but Elrond offers Bilbo and the dwarves lodging and food. The dwarves have a natural aversion to the Elves, but accept their help gladly. Elrond responded suspiciously to the dwarves’ project to reclaim their stolen treasure, but he gives those secret information that Gandalf and Thorin need to reach the Lonely Mountain.


GALADRIEL
Galadriel is the oldest of the remaining elves in Middle-earth and has the gift of foresight. As the signs are increasing that doom threatens Middle-earth, she secretly supports Gandalf in his mission to track down the cause of evil. Galadriel knows of course that the Fellowship must succeed if the evil power shall not win the upper hand and the darkness dominates everything.


THRANDUIL
The mighty Elf-lord and legendary warrior Thranduil is Legolas 's father. As King of the Woodland Realm he rules over the north of a large forest area, once known as the Green Forest that now bears the ominous name Mirkwood. During the long years of darkness Thranduil has increasingly isolated from the outside world - he cares only about his own people. An ancient, bitter feud led to the situation that he basically rejects all dwarves - and especially a certain dwarf, namely Thorin Oakenshield.


LEGOLAS
Legolas is the Prince of the Woodland Realm and a high elf like his father Thranduil. However, you meet him rarely at the royal court - much rather he patrols the area with the forest guards of the Woodelves. The large and slim versed fighter is absolutely loyal to his father and his people. But the events of the outside worldby now leave traces in the isolated world of the Woodelves. Because he sees the disaster coming, Legolas faces the choice to follow either his father or his conscience.


TAURIEL
The female Woodelf of Mirkwood is as dangerous as beautiful. As a charge of King Thranduil and commander of the Woodland Realm protection troops Tauriel is very opinionated and passionate about representing what she thinks is right. The great warrior proves herself with the use of her two daggers and bows and arrows. Like Legolas, Tauriel turns to be extremely quick and agile in battle. She has lived for hundreds of years in Middle-earth, but is still one of the youngest of the Elves and has rarely ventured out of the great forest.


TROLLS
Tom, Bert and William are trolls who have settled in the Trollshaws and pillage and eat everything that crosses their path. As Thorin & Co. inadvertently disturb their evening meal, the trolls capture Bilbo and the dwarf band and begin immediately to make a feast out of them - they have no idea that Bilbo and his friends will hardly accept this without a fight.


GOBLIN-KING
The Goblin King is a huge, grotesquely bloated monster that in the years of his tyrannical rule over the miserable inhabitants of the Goblin town grew fat and flabby. The Goblin town is a collection of skew-whiff ramshackle huts deep in the caves of the Misty Mountains. He commands a bunch of foul, polluted, with scars and ulcers studded goblins. Basically, they are bandits, they live by what they can pick up from passengers on the passes through the mountains. The Goblin King and his followers manage to capture Bilbo and the dwarves. The Goblin King is more wily and smarter than it seems. He takes pleasure in torturing his prisoners - he almost succeeds to finish off Thorin Oakenshield and his companions.


GRINNAH
Grinnah is the interrogation specialist of the goblins. He ensures that Thorin & Co. are brought before the Goblin King. He constantly carries a barbed whip and takes every opportunity to use it. Although cunning and vicious, he is like all goblins basically a coward. Fawning and obsequious, he serves his master, the rich and moody Goblin King, but secretly he despises him.


AZOG
It was said that Azog the Desecrator fell many years ago in the great battle between the Orcs and the Dwarves. But now he appears again at the top of a deadly horde of killer orcs. For Gandalf begins a race against time because he has to figure out the connection between the most dangerous orc commander and the growing evil, which takes shape in the ruins of the fortress of Dol Guldur. One thing is totally clear: no one will deter Azog from his intention to destroy Thorin Oakenshield’s companions to the last dwarf.


FIMBUL
The exceedingly cruel orc Fimbul is one of Azog’s master hunters. He commands a horde of warg riders who trace their victims in the saddle of their gigantic wolf beasts. Fimbul has taken up the scent of Thorin Oakenshield & Co. and will catch the dwarves before they reach the Lonely Mountain.


BOLG
Bolg is the offspring of Azog the Desecarator - like his father, he is huge pale orc. He is the overseer in the dungeons of Dol Guldur - torturing is his hobby. He garnishes his armor with the bones and the blood of his victims. This husky Orc fears nothing and nobody - until he suddenly meets an unexpected opponent.


GOLLUM
Gollum was once a Hobbit-like creature named Smeagol - body and soul have been poisoned by a small, plain gold ring, which he hid in a gloomy cave in the Misty Mountains. Gollum does not know what is going on with "his treasure" - but he realizes that it is more valuable than his life. After the chance encounter with a strange enemy Gollum realizes that he has lost "his treasure", and rightly concludes: The hobbit Bilbo Baggins of the Shire has stolen it. So begins the hunt over mountains and through deserts that takes years and costs many lives, until in the end this miserable creature holds the fate of Middle-earth in his hand.


BEORN
The gigantic Beorn is the last of the ancient people of the skin changer: He can transform into a huge bear-like creature. He lives alone, only tolerates the company of his beloved animals and does not appreciate any visitors - especially not dwarfs. Gandalf knows that the companions have to take the risk and ask Beorn for help, because otherwise they will hardly survive their journey through Wilderland.


EAGLES
The ancient Great Eagles of the Misty Mountains are huge birds of prey, led by Gwaihir, the Windlord. The wild and dangerous animals owe nothing to anyone. Just because they hold true to Gandalf, the giant birds come to the aid of Bilbo and the dwarves in order to save them in last minute from the claws of a deadly enemy.


WARGS
The huge, fierce, wolf-like monsters are among the most fearsome predators in whole Middle-earth. The Orcs breed the Wargs to hunt in packs and to ride on their backs into battle. The most dangerous of these beings is the White Warg, a giant she-wolf, which the huge pale orc Azog the Desecrator is riding.


GIANT SPIDERS OF MIRKWOOD
In the course of many years, giant spiders nestled in the once peaceful Greenwood and helped that he got the eerie name Mirkwood. It is believed that these creatures are the offspring of the monstrous Shelob the Great. They devour unfortunate travelers who go astray in the forest. But when the big spiders catch a company of dwarves in their webs, they suddenly have to deal with an unusual, unseen opponent whose sting is even longer than her own!

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*MAJOR SPOILERS* Official Figurine Descriptions Mybear Send a private message to Mybear Aug 15 2012, 8:46pm
    LOL, wut? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 8:56pm
        I used google translate soo.... Mybear Send a private message to Mybear Aug 15 2012, 9:06pm
            It's fine... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:11pm
        Hah! And Thorin Oak Plate...? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:08pm
        Funnier was the similar slip in Dori's description Oin K Send a private message to Oin K Aug 22 2012, 8:05pm
    Not officially approved! IncredibleSmaug Send a private message to IncredibleSmaug Aug 15 2012, 8:59pm
        Bifur can't talk and communicates through hand gestures and grunts... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:03pm
        No, but... painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Aug 15 2012, 10:48pm
            I had a theory that Bifur was a. Mute.. Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Aug 15 2012, 10:58pm
    My first impression is Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Aug 15 2012, 9:03pm
    Not yet official, but Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:04pm
        Kept alive or resurrected? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 15 2012, 9:06pm
            Agreed, Azog seems like a possible subject for necromancy // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:17pm
            Reserrected or replaced? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:46pm
                Maybe The Necromancer bought him back to life ...? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:48pm
                    Well that is one possibility Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 15 2012, 9:52pm
            Interesting is an understatement about Azog DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 15 2012, 9:58pm
                Ah, yes... Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 10:01pm
                    I don't believe it Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 15 2012, 10:32pm
                I'm not even sure if any of this is legit anyway DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 10:02pm
                    Baloney Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 10:05pm
                    Seems a bit of a stretch to make up these descriptions Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 15 2012, 10:18pm
                        I wasn't on the internet during the the release of FOTR DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 10:23pm
                    Hard to judge with translations DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 15 2012, 10:34pm
                        It's the piece of information that we didn't know DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 10:39pm
                            Always good to be skeptical DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 15 2012, 10:51pm
                    I'm with Carne on this . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 15 2012, 10:50pm
                        Anyone can make up "specifics" DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 10:54pm
                            Oh, trust me . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 15 2012, 10:57pm
                            Well, Dori DOES carry Bilbo around for a lot of the trek Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 11:15pm
                Or a funny headless Azog, bumping into things // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 10:07pm
                    This gives me an idea for the next Weta exclusive statue DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 15 2012, 11:42pm
    Intriguing... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:06pm
    Big changes with Azog Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 15 2012, 9:06pm
    "Krankra the great..." QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:10pm
    I am best Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:13pm
    They went with some of the obvious dwarf name derivations... DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 9:18pm
        Nori just seems like a bit of a kleptomaniac... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:22pm
            And here I thought the stealing silverware crack was a joke! DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 9:24pm
                Why would it have been a joke? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:28pm
                    I just meant lighthearted, not fabricated. DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 9:31pm
        That description is nothing new: QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 10:39pm
            Huh, I had overlooked the "illegal" part for some reason. // DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 10:50pm
    Eh? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:23pm
        I think it's including Galadriel // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:25pm
            Galadriel's a magician? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:26pm
                Very much so. Probably the most powerful // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:28pm
                    Of the most powerful magician is not Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:30pm
                        Are you translating your comments into German and back? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:40pm
                            I am in the dwarf Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:47pm
                                *mods up* Couldn't have put it better myself. // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:53pm
                    Poor Cirdan. Perhaps he disappeared in a magic act that went wrong? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:31pm
        The two blue wizards magically combined? DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 9:25pm
            Saruman, with 4 others: QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 15 2012, 9:30pm
                Sweet. I hope that actually happens! // DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 15 2012, 9:32pm
                Yes, that makes sense. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:33pm
                    I expect it's just a reference burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Aug 16 2012, 2:20pm
        The two Blue Wizards! NT Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 15 2012, 9:27pm
        Four others aside from Saruman...? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:28pm
        I assume it means Saruman and the four other wizards Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Aug 15 2012, 9:33pm
        Four outers, excludes himself, which would mean AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 15 2012, 11:46pm
            It doesn't say Elrond is the oldest DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 7:02am
    I'm confused ... what are these descriptions of? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:27pm
        Action figures Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 15 2012, 9:28pm
            Oh I see... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:31pm
                The Bridge Direct I believe. Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 15 2012, 9:33pm
                    More likely character descriptions Watcher Send a private message to Watcher Aug 17 2012, 4:01pm
    Now we just need to find out who plays Grinnah and Fimbul! Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 15 2012, 9:27pm
        KateGate! It's not Lilly ;-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 9:30pm
    So, Bifur is not going to properly speak...interesting Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Aug 15 2012, 9:31pm
    BTW - Azog the Defiler Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 15 2012, 9:54pm
        Azog Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 9:57pm
    Woah, quite a lot of information there TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Aug 15 2012, 10:51pm
        I'd be more inclined DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 10:57pm
            None of them hint towards Bifur speaking Khuzdul in the films Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 15 2012, 11:00pm
                Pretty sure CC footage or an interview (or other source) confirmed he would speak in Khuzdul / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 11:01pm
                    Ok, not so much "official", but still points that way DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 15 2012, 11:04pm
                a big revelation DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 15 2012, 11:39pm
                I would like that! :D // painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Aug 15 2012, 11:44pm
            I do know of a German TORN. TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 15 2012, 11:06pm
                Could someone post the link here? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Aug 15 2012, 11:25pm
                    Ummm . . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 15 2012, 11:29pm
                Im interested in reading it in German. Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Aug 15 2012, 11:45pm
                    What, Streicher? TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 15 2012, 11:49pm
            Translation Miruvorheron Send a private message to Miruvorheron Aug 16 2012, 1:42pm
                Thanks for this! Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Aug 16 2012, 1:57pm
                Thanks! So much clearer now! // burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Aug 16 2012, 2:04pm
                Fantastic work. Thank you very much indeed. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 2:06pm
                    I thought Fimbul was just taking the golf reference out of Golfimbul Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Aug 16 2012, 2:58pm
                        Hmmmmmm . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 16 2012, 3:09pm
                            They appeared on a list of upcoming action figures a long time ago Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 3:11pm
                                Huh . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 16 2012, 3:21pm
                                    No idea who's playing them though. Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 3:28pm
                        Could be Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 3:26pm
                Thanks so much :-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 2:43pm
                Thanks so much for taking the time to do that! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 16 2012, 3:25pm
                Random observations. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Aug 16 2012, 3:42pm
    Well, that's certainly a wide selection! // Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Aug 15 2012, 11:48pm
    Balin Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Aug 15 2012, 11:55pm
        Erebor vs. Moria DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 16 2012, 12:21am
            I think it's more likely that... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Aug 16 2012, 12:52am
    Why does everyone seem to have a problem with the descriptions? lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Aug 16 2012, 7:05am
        The same reason as you DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 7:10am
            Yeah but it's like people want the dwarves to have no life lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Aug 16 2012, 7:21am
                Apart from Bifur, I don't think anyone has said anything about the other dwarves? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 7:49am
        How is it an improvement? Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 16 2012, 10:25am
            I think there are lots of possible explanations Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 10:39am
            I would suggest waiting until more details get out... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Aug 16 2012, 11:53am
            I think it's probably better this way instead of having a story about a goblin son avenging his goblin fathers death lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Aug 16 2012, 11:59am
                A few things... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 16 2012, 12:40pm
                It's a bad idea because Azog is dead kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Aug 16 2012, 12:51pm
                    I think that by including Bolg in Dol Guldur QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 16 2012, 12:59pm
                        You haven't got a clue lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Aug 16 2012, 1:39pm
                            What do you mean? // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 16 2012, 5:33pm
                        The overall point is a personal response one Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 2:11pm
                            Maybe there's something in the appendices I'm forgetting kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Aug 16 2012, 2:21pm
                                Well the text does support links between Sauron and the Orcs Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 3:56pm
                            I do agree... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 16 2012, 5:42pm
                                Have there been any credible reports Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 5:55pm
                                    That sounds fair... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 16 2012, 6:14pm
                    "It was said that Azog the Desecrator fell many years ago in the great battle between the Orcs and the Dwarves." Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 2:27pm
                        The books make it clear that he's dead kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Aug 16 2012, 2:32pm
                            What about the report of Azog being changed to Yazneg? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 16 2012, 4:53pm
                                But I thought Conan Stevens was playing Azog... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 16 2012, 4:55pm
                                    He's playing Bolg / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 4:57pm
                                    Your information is antiquated... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 16 2012, 4:58pm
                                        This is great Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 16 2012, 5:05pm
                                        Marketing inertia dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Aug 16 2012, 5:09pm
                                            Are you sure? Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 16 2012, 5:26pm
                                                I remember this as well. Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 5:30pm
                                                I thought so too dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Aug 16 2012, 5:50pm
                                                    Yea, there's a list with the names out there Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 5:55pm
                                        Or there could be no one playing Azog Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 5:12pm
                                            Yes. Azog could be a completely CGI creation Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 16 2012, 5:18pm
                                        Can any good come of all this confusion? DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 16 2012, 5:22pm
                                            Maybe this is the reason for film 3 ;-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 5:31pm
                                            Ha I'm not entirely sure it is reasonable to label any plot Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 5:37pm
                                                Compared to the original book, it has become so. // DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 16 2012, 6:25pm
                                                    Well that'll save some time over the coming years! NT Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 6:43pm
                                        Hmmm, what if?.... Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Aug 17 2012, 12:40am
                                            possibly Wandering Ranger Send a private message to Wandering Ranger Aug 17 2012, 9:09am
                                            Well, we heard about Azog long before Yazneg Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 17 2012, 1:49pm
                                There's still room for Azog DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 4:56pm
                                "Yazneg is the character John Rawls is now playing in the hobbit films. He is no longer playing Azog. " Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 16 2012, 5:44pm
                                    Exactly... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 16 2012, 7:02pm
                        Legolas AND Thandruil megha Send a private message to megha Aug 16 2012, 2:42pm
                            Legolas faces the choice of either his father or his conscience to follow. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 2:46pm
                                I don't think his choice... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Aug 16 2012, 2:55pm
                                    Ahh that makes more sense :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 2:57pm
                        Dain Ironfoot - Hanzkaz Aug 16 2012, 3:26pm
    Do you need a translation? im german, my english is not so good, but better than google translate :) but i will need some time :) Hsvfan Send a private message to Hsvfan Aug 16 2012, 8:27am
        That would've been great! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Aug 16 2012, 2:18pm
    Gollum's travels burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Aug 16 2012, 2:12pm
        Given that this is a post 1955 Hobbit Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 16 2012, 2:23pm
        I read that as that's what he does, rather than what will be shown / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 2:45pm
    It's starting to look - Hanzkaz Aug 16 2012, 3:41pm
    Official indeed Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Aug 16 2012, 7:19pm
        This also checks out with the picture from the Bridge Direct figure here: Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 16 2012, 7:38pm
        Thanks for the update :-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 16 2012, 7:58pm
        Thanks for that news DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 16 2012, 10:27pm
        Link Watcher Send a private message to Watcher Aug 17 2012, 4:11pm

 
 
 

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