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Heavy Spoilers: Information from miniature merchandise

SimionSmallEye
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Aug 10 2012, 12:55am


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Hey,
in the game section of this board (http://newboards.theonering.net/...orum.cgi?post=478439) there is a discussion about the release list from tabletop miniature company Games Workshop which produces the official Hobbit movie miniatures.

The full list can be found at http://pastebin.com/9EC3qw3b with additional information. I made the list a little bit more readable and deleted all the releases that are not related to the movies.

There will be the following boxes in the next years:

Dwarves: Kili & Fili & Longbeard Archers
Dwarves: Bombur with Kettle
Dwarves: Drogo Baggins & The Tavern Maid
Dwarves: Dáin & Iron Hill Berserkers
Dwarves: King Thráin & Longbeard Vanguard
Dwarves: Young Thorin & Longbeard Mattockguard
Dwarves: King Thrór
Dwarves: Dragon Mithril Company of Dwarves
Dwarves: Dáin Ironfoot & Iron Hill Boar Riders
Dwarves: Dís, Mother of Kili and Fili
Dwarves: Gimli (Stubble)
Dwarves: Samwise Gamgee (Red Book)

Wargs: Dire Warg
Wargs: Grinnah & Mirkwood Werewolves
Wargs: Feral Wolf Pack
Wargs: The Werebeast
Wargs: Lagdush & Orc Wolfcloak Warriors
Wargs: Narzug & Orc Warg-Riders
Wargs: Dol Guldur Orc Overlords
Wargs: Orc Chieftain on Warg
Wargs: Orc Wolfbone Shaman

Dol Guldur: Leaping Spiders / Shiverfang Spiders
Dol Guldur: Spiderlings
Dol Guldur: The Willowhags
Dol Guldur: Bloodwraiths
Dol Guldur: Gwethil
Dol Guldur: The Necromancer / Flesh Avatar
Dol Guldur: Narzug & Orc Summoner Coven
Dol Guldur: Tomb Wights
Dol Guldur: Mounted Tomb Wights
Dol Guldur: Saruman & The Ringwraiths
Dol Guldur: Vampire Bat Swarms

White Council: Mounted Rivendell Nobles
White Council: Lindir the Harper
White Council: Arwen & Estel
White Council: Galadriel (Barrel)
White Council: Radagast with Roäc & Swoop
White Council: Galadriel (Water Steed)
White Council: The War Council
White Council: Galadriel & Lórien Drumhooves
White Council: Chief Aravir & Dúnedain Rangers
White Council: Dúnedain Runecaster
White Council: Elrond & Rivendell Spearguard
White Council: Elros & Rivendell Outriders
White Council: Radagast's Chariot / Spellfire Cart
White Council: Cirdan the Shipwright

Mountain Orcs: Azog & Orc Needlers
Mountain Orcs: Azog (Wounded)
Mountain Orcs: Bolg & Great Goblin Bodyguard
Mountain Orcs: Armoured Hill-Trolls / Frenzied Trolls
Mountain Orcs: Orc Stone Thrower

Men of Esgaroth: King Girion
Men of Esgaroth: Fram the Watchman
Men of Esgaroth: The Master of Lake-Town
Men of Esgaroth: Bard & Greystreak Bowmen
Men of Esgaroth: Bain & Quickstrings Gang / Trout Guild Militia
Men of Esgaroth: Alfrid & Loyal Town Guard
Men of Esgaroth: Garf & Footsoldiers of the Dale

Grey Mountain Dragons: Fire-wyrms
Grey Mountain Dragons: Braga & Goldscale Worshippers
Grey Mountain Dragons: Venomblade Assassin
Grey Mountain Dragons: Goldscale Priest
Grey Mountain Dragons: Bofur on Cold-Drake
Grey Mountain Dragons: Dragon Thrall
Grey Mountain Dragons: Money Bags & Hired Knives
Grey Mountain Dragons: Fell Hatchlings

Beornings: Woodmen Healer
Beornings: Fair Daughter
Beornings: Meneldor & Swiftbeak Flock
Beornings: Gorm & Woodmen Axethrowers / Skin-Changers
Beornings: Whisperbark / Gnarlfir
Beornings: Black Bear Pack
Beornings: Enraged Beorn
Beornings: Grimbeorn (Greataxe)

Silvan Elves: Legolas & Mirkwood Fire Archers
Silvan Elves: Mirkwood Warhost
Silvan Elves: King Thranduil (Battle Garb)
Silvan Elves: Tauriel (Mounted)
Silvan Elves: Castellan Amroth

Adventure: Gandalf's Quest
Adventure: The Battle at the East Gate
Adventure: The Fall of Dale
Adventure: The Belltower
Adventure: A Thief in the Night
Adventure: The Clearing of Foul Roots
Adventure: Assault on the Barrows
Adventure: Clash of the Beasts
Adventure: The Last Stand
Adventure: The Raven Hill
Adventure: Thorin's Folly
Adventure: The Battle of Five Armies
Adventure: Breaking the Siege
Adventure: Revenge of the Goblin King
Adventure: Blacksoil Slope
Adventure: The Final Onslaught
Adventure: The Clouds Burst
Adventure: The Ritual
Adventure: The Haunted Tombs
Adventure: The Blight Breach
Adventure: Gollum's Escape

don’t fit into the naming pattern:
Frodo with Red Book
Smaug the Golden
Gandalf (Dual Sword)
Turin, The Dragonslayer

Subject User Time
Heavy Spoilers: Information from miniature merchandise SimionSmallEye Send a private message to SimionSmallEye Aug 10 2012, 12:55am
    Holy frick dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Aug 10 2012, 1:03am
        How would they possibly justify including that last one in the films? Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 10 2012, 1:21am
            Rights and legal stuff... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 1:29am
                I wonders... AlatarVinyamar Send a private message to AlatarVinyamar Aug 10 2012, 9:28am
            I know one way Túrin fits in (it's obscure) QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 10:43am
                Orcrist dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Aug 10 2012, 12:16pm
                Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 10 2012, 1:12pm
    Interesting, but... does something appearing in official merchandise necessarily mean it's also in the films, though? MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Aug 10 2012, 1:07am
        Yeah... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 1:24am
            Note from bottom of list: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 10 2012, 2:14am
            Unless they are surprise cameos? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 2:31am
        Reply Arnyxx Send a private message to Arnyxx Aug 10 2012, 6:14am
            Probbaly not DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 6:23am
                pfft SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 6:38am
                I wouldn't be so sure Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 10 2012, 6:45am
                    I'm sure we will get some bits and pieces DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 7:28am
            Nope. Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 6:24am
        I wouldn't be surprised to see a Gimli cameo Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 11 2012, 6:07pm
            Huh? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 6:10pm
                Yes Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 11 2012, 6:16pm
                    So strange Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 6:20pm
            See this thread DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 11 2012, 6:12pm
    Wow! Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 1:10am
    I'm with Dave_If . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Aug 10 2012, 1:33am
    Please let me see Arwen! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 10 2012, 1:39am
        No love for her brothers though... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 1:46am
            Well... MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Aug 10 2012, 1:52am
                Those lines went to Lindir SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 2:53am
                    At face value Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Aug 10 2012, 3:10am
                        Knowing the way Warhammer works SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 3:28am
                            Exactly Apexman13 Send a private message to Apexman13 Aug 10 2012, 3:33am
                                Notes at the end of the list Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Aug 10 2012, 3:38am
                                    Exactly SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 3:55am
                        Robin Kerr is playing an Elros in the films, but it's not *the* Elros. // Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 11 2012, 6:10pm
                            Wonder if "Elros" may be the son of Elrond, being an amalgam of Elladan & Elrohir? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 12 2012, 4:10pm
                                I hope not DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 6:07pm
                                    Why's that? It wouldn't be any more of a break from the novel than Radagast, Bain, ETC. Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 12 2012, 7:47pm
                                        I'd want it to be *the* Elros DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 7:52pm
                                            So we both hope he's related to Elrond in some manner Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 12 2012, 7:55pm
                                                Definitely ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 7:58pm
                                                    On the other hand, IMO, they shouldn't include Elrond's backstory Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 12 2012, 8:30pm
                                                        Yes, either way, Elros shouldn't be included. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 9:32pm
                                    Unlikely? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 12 2012, 9:15pm
                                        My mistake... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 9:31pm
                                            It couldn't have been too far in... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 12 2012, 9:43pm
                                                Alfrid was confirmed on 14 May 2011 DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 9:47pm
                                                    7th November 2011 for Elros DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 12 2012, 9:49pm
            No love at all. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 10 2012, 1:54am
                but Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 10 2012, 1:58am
                    I can't tell if you're serious// Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 10 2012, 2:01am
                        well Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 10 2012, 2:09am
            If Lindir and some of those other "Elves" are present, and Glorfindel isn't AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 10 2012, 4:40am
    Are u sure that some aren't from Lotr or Hobbit? Mybear Send a private message to Mybear Aug 10 2012, 1:58am
    Well Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 10 2012, 1:59am
    Is anyone else concerned about... Mybear Send a private message to Mybear Aug 10 2012, 2:01am
        It would be like Russel Crowes Robin Hood all over again haha Apexman13 Send a private message to Apexman13 Aug 10 2012, 3:21am
    This is what we now know (provided if these things are in the movie)... Mybear Send a private message to Mybear Aug 10 2012, 2:19am
    The Necromancer / Flesh Avatar SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 2:34am
    Wow HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Aug 10 2012, 3:06am
    ? Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Aug 10 2012, 3:19am
        My guess Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 10 2012, 4:23am
            Recruiting the dwarves... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 4:43am
                Haha! Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 10 2012, 4:52am
                    I imagine it probably will be a bit like a montage, just a few short little scenes each of Thorin finding the Company. MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Aug 10 2012, 4:55am
                        Sure Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 10 2012, 4:58am
                            So it seems. If this is true, it looks like we're going to be seeing a lot more of Middle-Earth's beasts, if only in small cameos. MatthewJer18 Send a private message to MatthewJer18 Aug 10 2012, 5:02am
            Nonono... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 11:21am
    Only a few things from that list will be in the movies... Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Aug 10 2012, 3:28am
        Makes you wonder why Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 10 2012, 6:54am
    How the flip are GW making a Turin miniature?! Spencissimus Send a private message to Spencissimus Aug 10 2012, 5:45am
        They may have a separate agreement with Middle-earth Enterprises. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 5:56am
        Quite a few are probably just for the game. Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 6:25am
            The word sounds a bit clunky is all Spencissimus Send a private message to Spencissimus Aug 10 2012, 8:02am
                Mattocks Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Aug 10 2012, 6:52pm
                    I know Spencissimus Send a private message to Spencissimus Aug 10 2012, 11:10pm
    Dol Guldur Tomb Wights! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 6:26am
        I imagine 9 of them... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 10:48am
            They would still be Ringwraiths. They still have their Great Rings, whether AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 10 2012, 2:00pm
        If Gandalf and Radagast are attacked by wights and all hope seems lost... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 10:56am
            I'm worried about you QuackingTroll ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 11:23am
                What are you talking about? It's a great idea!! QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 12:26pm
                    Just spam, spam, spam DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 2:04pm
                    Is that your purpose QT? DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 10 2012, 3:32pm
                        Good point!.. they should introduce Moria, shouldn't they? hehe. Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Aug 10 2012, 3:50pm
                    same here QT. Gondor for the win :P // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Aug 10 2012, 3:49pm
            Rad - aghast... phredegar Send a private message to phredegar Aug 11 2012, 7:28am
            And then fingolfin_nc Send a private message to fingolfin_nc Aug 11 2012, 3:51pm
    I collected GW LOTR stuff Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Aug 10 2012, 10:24am
    About 50% Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 10 2012, 10:28am
        Possibly 90 or 100% QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 10:53am
        50% sounds about right DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 11:22am
    The inclusion of Drogo Baggins (and bar maid) QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 10:33am
        yeah precisely QT, we can't tell whether this list actually reveals anything worthwile or not // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Aug 10 2012, 11:02am
    As excited as I am with all this, being an ex-Warhammer man, I'd seriously take all the possible 'spoilers' with a very large pinch of salt; here's why: Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Aug 10 2012, 11:00am
    Ah... I see I'm really late into this discussion LOL..... sorry for the repetition! // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Aug 10 2012, 11:03am
    I hope they are all from the films architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Aug 10 2012, 11:19am
    What do we make of "Gimli (stubble)"? Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Aug 10 2012, 12:18pm
        They're going to use Gimli to explain the beardless dwarves? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 10 2012, 12:24pm
            Well JRD did have allergic reactions to the prothestics! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 2:05pm
    Some that I think do come from the films dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Aug 10 2012, 12:33pm
    Oh, so Samwise was a dwarf all this time? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Aug 10 2012, 12:36pm
        Tauriel's love child. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 10 2012, 2:00pm
    Bofur on Cold-Drake? DesiringDragons Send a private message to DesiringDragons Aug 10 2012, 12:50pm
        You have spoken for me line for line. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 10 2012, 2:06pm
    Nice find! Thats quite a list! Gollum's Escape? Gorbag Send a private message to Gorbag Aug 10 2012, 4:02pm
        Gollum's escape from the wood elves...? andyiomoon Send a private message to andyiomoon Aug 12 2012, 11:55pm
    If the list is for real - Hanzkaz Aug 10 2012, 4:25pm
        Now this is more like it. SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 10 2012, 11:11pm
            Wights I can definately see Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Aug 11 2012, 12:02am
        My guess Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 3:46am
    Has the list been taken down ?? TheWhiteRider Send a private message to TheWhiteRider Aug 10 2012, 8:25pm
        The link works fine for me :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 8:28pm
            Oh...weird ! TheWhiteRider Send a private message to TheWhiteRider Aug 10 2012, 8:30pm
                Does this help? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 8:42pm
                    Nope TheWhiteRider Send a private message to TheWhiteRider Aug 10 2012, 8:55pm
                        I would copy and paste DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 9:06pm
                            Gwethil... emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 10 2012, 10:10pm
                                Could well be DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 10 2012, 10:17pm
                                    I agree emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 10 2012, 10:22pm
                                        Best line of the day Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 3:52am
                                            Haha emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 11 2012, 4:03am
                                                No worries Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 4:13am
                                        RE Games Workshop and the Silmarillion SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 11 2012, 4:39am
                                Yes, have long wanted/expected Vampires/Werewolves serving Sauron... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 11 2012, 3:21am
                                    Vampires in Third Age? emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 11 2012, 6:29am
                                        Forget the last bit... emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 11 2012, 6:42am
                                        They didn't in Tolkien's writings, but they'd give PJ some nice new monsters to play with Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 11 2012, 2:16pm
    Wow! Nice find...we've already heard about Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 11 2012, 12:32am
        ha Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Aug 11 2012, 1:03am
            Basically... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 11 2012, 3:23am
        Not so sure the Dunedain won't appear Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 3:54am
        Wight and Wongs Barrow Wong Send a private message to Barrow Wong Aug 11 2012, 7:51am
            Would this be Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Aug 11 2012, 6:19pm
                Perhaps Barrow Wong Send a private message to Barrow Wong Aug 12 2012, 12:17am
    Just...wow Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 11 2012, 9:33am
        Aravir was the great-great-grandson - Hanzkaz Aug 11 2012, 4:28pm
        Caught that SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 11 2012, 5:51pm
    Some of these additions are...worrying, to say the least Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Aug 11 2012, 11:28am
        Dis would be welcome DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 11 2012, 2:20pm
            Dis Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 11 2012, 8:19pm
                Beardless female dwarf DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 11 2012, 8:24pm
                    Are you sure she's beardless? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 11 2012, 8:28pm
                        Better shot of the face DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 11 2012, 8:30pm
                            Bushy side-burns are better than nuthin' Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 11 2012, 8:45pm
                                Agreed! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 11 2012, 8:46pm
                            Poor male dwarves Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 9:23pm
                                I don't think Dwarf women have it any better... emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 11 2012, 9:47pm
                                That be hearsay in certain parts! // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 11 2012, 10:04pm
                Don't forget her sister Dat // Barrow Wong Send a private message to Barrow Wong Aug 12 2012, 12:18am
                    Dis and Dat. LOL TheWhiteRider Send a private message to TheWhiteRider Aug 12 2012, 12:40am
                    Or her brother Dolt!// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 12 2012, 2:22am
                        I thought his name was Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Aug 12 2012, 2:26am
        Oh? eralkfang Send a private message to eralkfang Aug 11 2012, 2:28pm
            Exactly DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Aug 11 2012, 3:32pm
            I personally would like to see it Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Aug 11 2012, 3:50pm
                Fair enough. eralkfang Send a private message to eralkfang Aug 11 2012, 4:24pm
    It's crazy that they'd give away this much so early Flagg Send a private message to Flagg Aug 11 2012, 6:01pm
        That was the one that jumped out first SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 11 2012, 6:08pm
            Flesh Avatar: It made think of sushi for some reason. // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 11 2012, 6:11pm
    I thought Drogo Baggins was pretty much confirmed? Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 11 2012, 6:46pm
        I think that's what makes it unconfirmed DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 11 2012, 6:48pm
            Right Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 11 2012, 6:56pm
    Bofur: Drake Hunter TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Aug 11 2012, 11:04pm
        What do you mean? emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Aug 12 2012, 7:58am
            m-m-m-m nom-nom-num... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Aug 12 2012, 9:57am
            Turin Lost Hobbit Send a private message to Lost Hobbit Aug 12 2012, 9:57am
            Probably could have worded that better TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Aug 13 2012, 3:11pm
    The tabletop games have been known to make stuff up without basis in the movies _V_ Send a private message to _V_ Aug 13 2012, 1:35am
    List debunked from behind the scenes MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 22 2012, 1:36am
        Aw :( Carne Send a private message to Carne Aug 22 2012, 1:42am

 
 
 

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