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Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens
Aug 3 2012, 8:43pm
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Ha ah ah but it is a buffet not a la carte.
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Serving the many (I'll never give up on a metaphor when there is a chance of a cheese course) Now I completely agree that the audience is a vital part of the relationship - but for me it is a bounded role which is about response, not co-creation. It's the "can't" bit that I'm struggling with, Usually if you say someone "can't" do something then it means there is something preventing them or that we have a recourse to prevent it. In this case I don't understand how those things might come into play? As to who owns The Hobbit, in terms of adaptation, it is the people who paid for it. That may not be as we would like it but we can thank Tolkien for that one! In terms of "can" of course there are a whole host of possibilities. Jackson and the licensee "can" make a film about Bilbo's journey to the 29th century and his battle with the naked Galadriel robots. They "can" make a series of films about Gandalf the serial killer who slaughters the dwarves one by one. In any and all of these cases we have only two sanctions - not to pay or to see it and respond with poor judgement. I am constantly surprised by how unwilling people are to excercise the first option! Particularly those who didn't enjoy LOTR, it seems a little bonkers to me to keep paying the chap. To flog the metaphor a little further that's the customer who eats the first meal, thinks it's awful but says they will be back next week for some more! I suppose the bit I don't understand is the judging before one has seen it. I'm not sure of the advantage vs waiting. And at least Richard has a selection of weapons to choose from to defend himself with. LR
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Time
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The bold 'Hobbit' trilogy decision and what to expect now
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News from Bree
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Aug 2 2012, 12:24pm
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Great read - Thank you Larry!
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2012, 10:55pm
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3 months until the premier?...
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QuackingTroll
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Aug 2 2012, 10:57pm
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Not quite
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MrCere
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Aug 2 2012, 10:59pm
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It really is crazy!
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2012, 10:59pm
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I really don't know what's the point of this thread
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 2 2012, 11:35pm
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It's not pointless at all
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2012, 11:38pm
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Out of curiousity - what kind of posts do you prefer reading? //
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Bladerunner
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Aug 2 2012, 11:49pm
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The ones that do not bore me.
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 2 2012, 11:53pm
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I don't like reading boring stuff, either.
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Magpie
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Aug 3 2012, 4:14pm
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No my friend
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 3 2012, 4:19pm
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well... just scanning subject lines : at least 8
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Magpie
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Aug 3 2012, 4:51pm
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Wisely said
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 3 2012, 9:47pm
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The "you can't really read tone on the internet" defense would go right out the window! ;) //
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Aug 3 2012, 10:37pm
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I feel similar... I don't have any interest in the 3 movies news...
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QuackingTroll
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Aug 3 2012, 12:05am
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Me too
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 3 2012, 12:09am
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Nailed it
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Elessar
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Aug 3 2012, 12:15am
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um...
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Lindele
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Aug 3 2012, 8:01pm
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I fully agree with you until the point where you discuss the breaking of the films,
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painjoiker
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Aug 2 2012, 11:03pm
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Very enjoyable read MrCere
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SirDennisC
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Aug 2 2012, 11:18pm
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Awesome post!
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Bladerunner
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Aug 2 2012, 11:19pm
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Fellowship felt very, very rushed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Aug 4 2012, 9:06pm
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While I was reading the post....
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Jim
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Aug 2 2012, 11:24pm
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On paper it's a nice idea.
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2012, 11:34pm
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Endless stair
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Aug 2 2012, 11:58pm
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If they wanted to add more scenes
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DanielLB
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Aug 3 2012, 12:04am
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I always hoped he would!
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Bladerunner
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Aug 2 2012, 11:46pm
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Benefit of having dwarves' imprisonment as ending to Film 1...
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Bladerunner
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Aug 2 2012, 11:40pm
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Oooh ... I like it.
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2012, 11:58pm
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Encoding
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JWPlatt
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Aug 2 2012, 11:55pm
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Nit Pick
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JWPlatt
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Aug 3 2012, 12:26am
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good nit pick
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MrCere
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Aug 3 2012, 2:01am
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I wanted to add, given the flavour of the article,
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SirDennisC
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Aug 3 2012, 2:07am
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Fantastic write up
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There&ThereAgain
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Aug 3 2012, 2:15am
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Gonna have to disagree on film one break.
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Ardamírë
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Aug 3 2012, 2:46am
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2nd break
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MrCere
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Aug 3 2012, 5:35am
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Nice job. This can't be said often enough:
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Lissuin
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Aug 3 2012, 3:00am
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Disagree
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Yngwulff
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Aug 3 2012, 3:11am
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Hey now!
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MrCere
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Aug 3 2012, 5:36am
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I'm calling it for Mirkwood
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Spaldron
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Aug 3 2012, 3:22am
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I found you're review to be glowing, though I don't know that I agree on some points.
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 3 2012, 4:44am
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Yes, clearly possible
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MrCere
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Aug 3 2012, 5:43am
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Wonderful
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Sunflower
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Aug 3 2012, 6:47am
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my take
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TheCoon
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Aug 3 2012, 1:47pm
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Well-written and comprehensive article - however, can't agree with the praise for PJ as
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 2:14pm
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BTW, have not made any final judegment...and likely won't be able to do so until Summer of 2014 at the earliest
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 2:18pm
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a shortcut to mushrooms
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There&ThereAgain
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Aug 3 2012, 2:37pm
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True, the book has been good enough for decades...
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 4:09pm
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Indirect benefits
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DanielLB
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Aug 3 2012, 4:20pm
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I worry that it may turn people away from the book. One of my sincere concerns is
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 5 2012, 7:19am
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That is also inevitable
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DanielLB
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Aug 5 2012, 8:53am
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Hmmm
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 3 2012, 2:37pm
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Except what I actually said was
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 4:03pm
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Well it was a bit like that.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 3 2012, 4:44pm
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Not so much suggesting recipes as reacting after ordering a meal and getting it in three segments several hours apart and caked in fat
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 7:16pm
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Ha ah ah but it is a buffet not a la carte.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 3 2012, 8:43pm
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Of course, Peter is the creator...but IMO, in an instance such as this, it's not unreasonable for the audience to not co-create, but react to PJ's decision...
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Captain Salt
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Aug 4 2012, 2:55am
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Yes...
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Aug 4 2012, 4:57am
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I would agree with this
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 4 2012, 11:31am
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Amen Sister!
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 5 2012, 7:20am
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Ah but where does the agreement come in?
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 4 2012, 10:35am
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I suppose in this case it's more about presentation than inception...
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Captain Salt
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Aug 4 2012, 4:07pm
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If the end result
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Aug 4 2012, 8:25pm
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In any event, still excited to see how this all turns out and hoping for the best!
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Captain Salt
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Aug 4 2012, 4:19pm
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Been following this with interest and some amusement...
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dormouse
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Aug 4 2012, 11:22am
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True enough...unless I can't decide whether I like the film or not and develop Gollum/Smeagol-esque double personalities! ;) //
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Captain Salt
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Aug 4 2012, 3:58pm
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Nay, my dear Captain Salt. Peter is the adaptor
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AinurOlorin
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Aug 5 2012, 7:25am
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There's a part of me --
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SirDennisC
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Aug 3 2012, 2:44pm
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Yes, will certainly give them a chance!
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Captain Salt
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Aug 3 2012, 4:06pm
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Excellent article
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hasufel
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Aug 3 2012, 3:19pm
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The Film 1 Break and Bilbo's Arc
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Kassandros
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Aug 3 2012, 3:40pm
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Thank you !!
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peleowyn
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Aug 3 2012, 6:03pm
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Thank you
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Lindele
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Aug 3 2012, 7:58pm
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