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Well-written and comprehensive article - however, can't agree with the praise for PJ as

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There's a reason that some things have never been done before...and that's because they're exceedingly unwise. Adapting the third most widely read novel of all time whilst gambling $500 million (and quite possibly more) of the studio's money and myriad fans' hopes and expectations is not the time to suddenly and drastically change narrative course half-way through. Planning, writing, and shooting two films, then spontaneously making it three films, is a sure-fire way of producing three films which all feel highly incomplete (unlike FotR, TTT and RotK which all work not just because they formed a terrific trilogy, but were fantastic on their own as stand-alone works). And this is not nitpicking over some minor trifle, ALA Bifur's head ornament: this is worry over the possibility than PJ has seriously lessened his own project.

Ultimately, PJ is not the guinea pig here: the audience is. Adapting one of the most beloved and influential works in fantasy fiction is not the time to start screwing around with "cutting-edge" camera technology to make the footage look like a 40-year-old TV show; nor is it the time to pad out what was already a "super-sized" version of the novel into something totally unrecognizable. If PJ's films don't work, the fans pay the price (as does PJ, but to a lesser extent - he'll always be able to get another project off the ground, while we'll probably not get another adaptation of TH for quite some time). Experiment with your own films and on your own time, Peej - like with "Meet the Feebles Again" or something - and not with a work which is loved by many and has been anticipated for ages.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

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The bold 'Hobbit' trilogy decision and what to expect now News from Bree Send a private message to News from Bree Aug 2 2012, 12:24pm
    Great read - Thank you Larry! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 2 2012, 10:55pm
        3 months until the premier?... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 2 2012, 10:57pm
            Not quite MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 2 2012, 10:59pm
            It really is crazy! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 2 2012, 10:59pm
        I really don't know what's the point of this thread Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 2 2012, 11:35pm
            It's not pointless at all DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 2 2012, 11:38pm
            Out of curiousity - what kind of posts do you prefer reading? // Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Aug 2 2012, 11:49pm
                The ones that do not bore me. Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 2 2012, 11:53pm
                    I don't like reading boring stuff, either. Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Aug 3 2012, 4:14pm
                        No my friend Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 3 2012, 4:19pm
                            well... just scanning subject lines : at least 8 Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Aug 3 2012, 4:51pm
                                Wisely said Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 3 2012, 9:47pm
                                    The "you can't really read tone on the internet" defense would go right out the window! ;) // Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Aug 3 2012, 10:37pm
            I feel similar... I don't have any interest in the 3 movies news... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Aug 3 2012, 12:05am
                Me too Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 3 2012, 12:09am
                    Nailed it Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Aug 3 2012, 12:15am
            um... Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Aug 3 2012, 8:01pm
    I fully agree with you until the point where you discuss the breaking of the films, painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Aug 2 2012, 11:03pm
    Very enjoyable read MrCere SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 2 2012, 11:18pm
    Awesome post! Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Aug 2 2012, 11:19pm
        Fellowship felt very, very rushed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 4 2012, 9:06pm
    While I was reading the post.... Jim Send a private message to Jim Aug 2 2012, 11:24pm
        On paper it's a nice idea. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 2 2012, 11:34pm
            Endless stair Morok Cloudkeeper Send a private message to Morok Cloudkeeper Aug 2 2012, 11:58pm
                If they wanted to add more scenes DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 3 2012, 12:04am
        I always hoped he would! Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Aug 2 2012, 11:46pm
    Benefit of having dwarves' imprisonment as ending to Film 1... Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Aug 2 2012, 11:40pm
        Oooh ... I like it. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 2 2012, 11:58pm
    Encoding JWPlatt Aug 2 2012, 11:55pm
    Nit Pick JWPlatt Aug 3 2012, 12:26am
        good nit pick MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 3 2012, 2:01am
            I wanted to add, given the flavour of the article, SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 3 2012, 2:07am
    Fantastic write up There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Aug 3 2012, 2:15am
    Gonna have to disagree on film one break. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 3 2012, 2:46am
        2nd break MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 3 2012, 5:35am
    Nice job. This can't be said often enough: Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Aug 3 2012, 3:00am
        Disagree Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Aug 3 2012, 3:11am
        Hey now! MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 3 2012, 5:36am
    I'm calling it for Mirkwood Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 3 2012, 3:22am
    I found you're review to be glowing, though I don't know that I agree on some points. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 3 2012, 4:44am
        Yes, clearly possible MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 3 2012, 5:43am
    Wonderful Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 3 2012, 6:47am
        my take TheCoon Send a private message to TheCoon Aug 3 2012, 1:47pm
    Well-written and comprehensive article - however, can't agree with the praise for PJ as Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 2:14pm
        BTW, have not made any final judegment...and likely won't be able to do so until Summer of 2014 at the earliest Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 2:18pm
            a shortcut to mushrooms There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Aug 3 2012, 2:37pm
                True, the book has been good enough for decades... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 4:09pm
                    Indirect benefits DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 3 2012, 4:20pm
                        I worry that it may turn people away from the book. One of my sincere concerns is AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 5 2012, 7:19am
                            That is also inevitable DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 5 2012, 8:53am
        Hmmm Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 3 2012, 2:37pm
            Except what I actually said was Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 4:03pm
                Well it was a bit like that. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 3 2012, 4:44pm
                    Not so much suggesting recipes as reacting after ordering a meal and getting it in three segments several hours apart and caked in fat Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 7:16pm
                        Ha ah ah but it is a buffet not a la carte. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 3 2012, 8:43pm
                            Of course, Peter is the creator...but IMO, in an instance such as this, it's not unreasonable for the audience to not co-create, but react to PJ's decision... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 4 2012, 2:55am
                                Yes... Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Aug 4 2012, 4:57am
                                    I would agree with this Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 4 2012, 11:31am
                                    Amen Sister! AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 5 2012, 7:20am
                                Ah but where does the agreement come in? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 4 2012, 10:35am
                                    I suppose in this case it's more about presentation than inception... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 4 2012, 4:07pm
                                        If the end result Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Aug 4 2012, 8:25pm
                                    In any event, still excited to see how this all turns out and hoping for the best! Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 4 2012, 4:19pm
                                Been following this with interest and some amusement... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 4 2012, 11:22am
                                    True enough...unless I can't decide whether I like the film or not and develop Gollum/Smeagol-esque double personalities! ;) // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 4 2012, 3:58pm
                                Nay, my dear Captain Salt. Peter is the adaptor AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Aug 5 2012, 7:25am
        There's a part of me -- SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Aug 3 2012, 2:44pm
            Yes, will certainly give them a chance! Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Aug 3 2012, 4:06pm
    Excellent article hasufel Send a private message to hasufel Aug 3 2012, 3:19pm
    The Film 1 Break and Bilbo's Arc Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Aug 3 2012, 3:40pm
    Thank you !! peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Aug 3 2012, 6:03pm
    Thank you Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Aug 3 2012, 7:58pm

 
 
 

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