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Long shot and closeup together show a huge change

Lissuin
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Jul 14 2012, 8:19pm


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in Frodo's feelings about the job he's taken on. From the moment when he asked Gandalf in Bag End, "What must I do?", he showed he was willing to take personal responsibility for this terrible evil thing. But from the beginning, he had Gandalf, Strider, Elrond, and even Bilbo to tell him what he should do in order to accomplish the task. He is responsible for his own decision to carry the ring to Mordor, but he is not thinking of himself as a leader, as someone responsible for the lives of his friends.

When we see him alone after coming from the mine, the scene is set for Frodo's realization that he will have to do this task alone. In the film he makes the decision as leader to go through the mines, and the consequence of that decision is that one of his friends dies. The whole quest now takes on another dimension: "The decisions I make can have direct and lasting consequences for someone I love." Before this it was an abstract responsibility: "I have to do this so an evil will be removed from the world and the Shire and our way of life will be safe." The concrete effect of this shot is to show us that the Ringbearer truly is alone.

The closeup is so heart-breaking because his eyes show the devastation of a leader who has lost someone because of a decision to act in what seemed like the best way possible at the time. Frodo has been a decent person all his life but certainly not in charge of anything where his decisions have direct life or death consequences, as Strider, Gandalf, or Boromir have. He has just experienced the meaning of leadership in war and is horrified. This look of his says, "Look at the damage my first decision has done. I cannot do this again and risk any more hurt to the people I love. I won't. I'm on my own from now on."

I have a niggling thought in my head that I hear Philippa Boyens voice saying what I've just written. Was all this something I remember from the director's commentary from the EE for this scene? No time to play it to check. If that was the intention for Frodo's character, it works for me.

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SCOD: Frodo mourns zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Jul 13 2012, 3:57am
    Frodo's reaction here Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jul 13 2012, 4:45am
        "As an aside, how in earth do actors cry on cue??" Ataahua Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 13 2012, 8:11pm
            Memory works for me. dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jul 14 2012, 3:32am
                For me it's music, Dernwyn. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 14 2012, 5:32am
                    Interesting Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Jul 14 2012, 5:45am
                        Nice try. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 14 2012, 5:50am
                            Wasn't very subtle, was I? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Jul 14 2012, 6:04am
                                About as subtle as Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 14 2012, 12:10pm
                                    rofl, that's a great phrase! ! and full of PJ-related irony :P :P // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Jul 16 2012, 9:14am
                    Extra? Jeremy Send a private message to Jeremy Jul 14 2012, 3:55pm
                        Welcome to the boards, Jeremy! Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 14 2012, 8:49pm
                            Are you allowed to spill a few beans after the movies are released??? ;) // zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Jul 17 2012, 6:27am
                                Will do!// Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 17 2012, 8:51pm
                    idle speculation (and a book spoilery tangent- sorry) titanium_hobbit Send a private message to titanium_hobbit Jul 15 2012, 6:51am
                        I would never smirk at you, T_H! Speculate away! Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 16 2012, 9:12am
                    That was perfect! dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jul 15 2012, 4:17pm
                    Go Lissuin!!! :D :D that sounds fantastic, and such a story ! :) // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Jul 16 2012, 9:12am
        Oops! This link to crying didn't work directly. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 13 2012, 8:17pm
            The staring method imin Send a private message to imin Jul 13 2012, 9:40pm
    I like how the angle of Frodo's head in this shot... Lily Fairbairn Send a private message to Lily Fairbairn Jul 13 2012, 3:07pm
        oh, good observation! weaver Send a private message to weaver Jul 17 2012, 4:13am
    Elijah's best acting Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Jul 13 2012, 6:05pm
        I agree Shelob Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Jul 14 2012, 1:48pm
        Long shot and closeup together show a huge change Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 14 2012, 8:19pm
        That particular shot wasn't available in the scod library zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Jul 17 2012, 6:24am
            Thanks! Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Jul 17 2012, 6:28am
                I'm just grateful for the resource zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Jul 17 2012, 6:37am
    "I'm the one who chose to go through Moria." Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jul 13 2012, 7:39pm
    I think that possibly this is the first scene where Frodo experiences complete devastation, and a greatly diminished hope Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Jul 16 2012, 9:23am
    Lots of wonderful insight! Thanks all :) // zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Jul 17 2012, 6:29am
    a favorite "sad" scene... batik Send a private message to batik Jul 29 2012, 7:12pm

 
 
 

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