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DavidDragonSlayer
The Shire
Jul 13 2012, 12:49am
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I agree, and have a Star Wars comparison
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I fully agree. He's too close to the story, and yes, it is understandable that he would be. I do think however, that, being so close, he's having trouble seeing that others are taking something from the stories. That taking happens all the time, when somebody creates a work of fiction. Witness all the howling by Star Wars fans about the Prequels. Sorry people, it was his work to begin with, and if his back-story doesn't fit with what you imagined the back-story to be? Sorry, it is his creation.
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Christopher Tolkien speaks!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 1:50am
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Makes one think, if Tolkien were alive today... //
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:05am
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If JRR were alive
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Yngwulff
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Jul 12 2012, 2:31am
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"...making it an action movie for young people 15 to 25."
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 2:19am
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What LotR the book set out to be...
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Elizabeth
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Jul 12 2012, 7:29am
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I don't think Tolkien had an age range in mind -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:50am
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Christopher isn't the only one who feels they're 'action movies'
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 10:03am
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Sounds about right
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:01pm
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No surprise there ;)
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 9:35pm
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Not liking something
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:02pm
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But, I get the sense C. Tolkien has not seen the movies...
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 11:32pm
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Bad vibes from Christoper Tolkien
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:05pm
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inappropriate age-bashing
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 10:38pm
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wuh?
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:52pm
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Ageism
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Finrod
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Jul 15 2012, 4:01am
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I don't know about the 40s...
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 15 2012, 5:52am
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That's what I was trying to say above.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 15 2012, 7:26am
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Nope, I still disagree.
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geordie
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Jul 15 2012, 8:21am
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There is only sense that I would consider LOTR written for a young adult
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 15 2012, 2:07pm
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Strange as it may seem...
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dormouse
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Jul 15 2012, 8:24am
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yers...
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geordie
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Jul 15 2012, 8:30am
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Clarification
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Jeremy
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Jul 15 2012, 9:35pm
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So... you're saying that Tolkien put action in the books...
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dormouse
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Jul 15 2012, 10:27pm
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sigh...
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Jeremy
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Jul 15 2012, 10:47pm
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A less breakneck pace would have been preferable to me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 16 2012, 3:45am
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I have something that may speak to your question...
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 16 2012, 3:58pm
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It's a good example...
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dormouse
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Jul 16 2012, 6:55pm
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Speaking of putting people in boxes
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SirDennisC
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Jul 16 2012, 5:59am
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Oh, I like this
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Radhruin
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Jul 18 2012, 5:30am
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I find irony here.
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Ataahua
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Jul 12 2012, 2:56am
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Very well said...
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jschomburg
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Jul 13 2012, 5:44pm
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Not just the film stuff
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 3:02am
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Yes, well -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 8:23am
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Oops - a correction
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 8:52am
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Quite a contrast to J.K. Rowling's handling of many similar issues,
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Arandiel
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Jul 12 2012, 4:54am
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JK Rowling and Christopher Tolkien simply have different views on what constitutes good "popularization"
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:05pm
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Christopher is in a tough position.
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Silverlode
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Jul 12 2012, 6:28am
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Answering in general, but using your excellent post as a platform.
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sador
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Jul 15 2012, 10:24am
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On a slightly contentious note -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:32am
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Well,
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sador
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Jul 12 2012, 8:31am
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Agree
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:30pm
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Such bad manner!
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sador
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Jul 12 2012, 10:32am
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Very interesting
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imin
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Jul 12 2012, 2:27pm
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Yeah
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:24pm
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It is too bad that Christopher Tolkien can't be more positive
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 12 2012, 2:55pm
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Yes and no
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 3:21pm
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I agree with what you say about Christopher -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 3:36pm
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"Bought" doesn't mean "Read"
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Malveth The Eternal
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Jul 12 2012, 11:16pm
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This is true
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imin
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Jul 12 2012, 11:27pm
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No film adaption of LotR or TH could ever match the version in C. Tolkien's head...
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 13 2012, 12:07am
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Too true
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 12:52am
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Not likely
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 13 2012, 1:28am
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That's Interesting to Know!
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 1:59am
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Any work..literature, art, music etc. becomes "lost" in the public
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Eruonen
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Jul 13 2012, 12:54am
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True
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:50pm
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Out of curiosity
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:12pm
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That's an extraordinary article, Voronwe
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dormouse
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Jul 12 2012, 4:43pm
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Wonderful comments //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 6:35pm
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Well,
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 6:41pm
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I agree, geordie...
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dormouse
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Jul 12 2012, 6:53pm
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Ah -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:11pm
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Agreed!
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Demosthenes
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Jul 12 2012, 7:25pm
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I think he is simply too close to the subject and simply
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Eruonen
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Jul 12 2012, 9:40pm
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I agree, and have a Star Wars comparison
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 12:49am
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Its a very interesting situation....
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Donry
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Jul 12 2012, 9:59pm
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One area where I think Christopher and his father misintepreted the fanbase
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 10:19pm
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That is finest Post I have read here in a long time.
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Bombadil
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Jul 12 2012, 10:35pm
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Thanks!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 10:47pm
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Yep...
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Malveth The Eternal
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Jul 12 2012, 11:06pm
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Films gateway to the books
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Kirkman
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Jul 12 2012, 11:53pm
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This. //
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Evernight
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Jul 13 2012, 5:27pm
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This is a very important testimony.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 16 2012, 7:43am
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*what she said*
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Magpie
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Jul 16 2012, 1:21pm
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We got into this a bit
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SirDennisC
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Jul 16 2012, 3:49pm
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Great thread from all, and Elizabeth wraps it up for me.
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Lissuin
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Jul 16 2012, 8:18pm
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I agree!
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Jeremy
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Jul 17 2012, 12:53am
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This is true, but the problem is on both sides
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 17 2012, 5:38am
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Well said
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 17 2012, 2:03pm
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Me too
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geordie
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Jul 17 2012, 7:17pm
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If you get two groups representing two sides of an opinion in a room...
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Magpie
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Jul 17 2012, 9:44pm
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You didn't even read my posts- only took my words out of context
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Jeremy
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Jul 18 2012, 11:28pm
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Tommy Tuneful & G-Girl enjoy the Simple..
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 5:30pm
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I have always found it a pity...
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Compa_Mighty
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Jul 13 2012, 1:17am
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His home seems like Crickhollow!
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dernwyn
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Jul 13 2012, 1:38am
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One very interesting aspect of this article that I have not seen commented on anywhere
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 13 2012, 1:44am
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Completely sympathise with CT
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Nimloth9
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Jul 13 2012, 6:30am
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So, bottom line, would Christopher have preferred that fewer people had read his father's work?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 13 2012, 6:56am
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Agree with this
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:09am
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Regardless of one's opinion on the films...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 13 2012, 8:17am
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I've know a few who tried to read LOTR after seeing the films.
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RosieLass
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Jul 13 2012, 3:16pm
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well... the first half of FOTR could be considered a bit boring, don't you think?
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Magpie
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Jul 13 2012, 3:32pm
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The first half of FOTR
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:16pm
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in your opinion... of course.
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Magpie
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Jul 13 2012, 9:20pm
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You misunderstand me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 9:42pm
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How do the literati phrase their disrespect for language arts?
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 2:33am
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There is much anti-intellectualism amongst intellectuals
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 5:57am
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Is it only genre literature we're talking about?
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 12:00pm
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I conflated two separate phenomena
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 6:09pm
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You are certainly right to...
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Beutlin
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Jul 14 2012, 4:50am
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Indeed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 5:49am
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On literature
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 2:21pm
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I fail to see your point
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 6:00pm
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Echo
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 6:33pm
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Well, there's a clue
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 8:06pm
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Simply because
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 8:23pm
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I would not compare "The Lord of the Rings" with "The Name of the Rose".
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Beutlin
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Jul 14 2012, 9:14pm
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Now that's what I call the *beginnings* of a critical approach that we can talk about
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squire
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Jul 15 2012, 1:40pm
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Rushdie's quote
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 16 2012, 10:30pm
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But that's not new.
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Silverlode
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Jul 13 2012, 7:51pm
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Thats annoying
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:35pm
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On Lucas and Star Wars
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:01pm
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Fair enough...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 15 2012, 11:37pm
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I think Christopher is being a little harsh..
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Jul 14 2012, 4:34pm
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No-one here can speak for Christopher -
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geordie
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Jul 14 2012, 4:55pm
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How is this Idea to solve the Riddle of CRT & SirPJ?
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 6:12pm
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I see your heart is in the right place
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geordie
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Aug 18 2012, 6:35pm
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Thang you very Bunch..
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 8:05pm
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