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Donry
Tol Eressea
Jul 12 2012, 9:59pm
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Its a very interesting situation....
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I really appreciate CT's approach to protecting his father's work and legacy (and his own since he's worked on so much of it himself). It may seem a bit narrow to some, close-minded even, but with the media and internet today, things can get out of control or 'viral' in mere moments. It must be exhausting to try and exhibit so much control over such a huge entity. Considering how exhausting all the work he's already done has been (as stated in the article, specifically are HoME), I think CT has every right to be a bit worn down and seemingly tired.....which maybe leads to a bit of grumpiness on his part! I appreciate the effort to preserve the work and the legacy, I really do. Having said that, I think the 'exhibition' that has resulted in the Jackson movies has benefited Tolkien as a whole. I have a 13-year old stepson, and his generation, from what I have witnessed, does not have the attention span to sit and read The Simarillion or the Lord of the Rings. This is where Jackson's adaption can help this younger generation appreciate the works of Tolkien. I'm don't want to get into a huge discussion on the youth and wha they should and shouldn't be doing as far as reading, video games and all that.....I have been doing that for almost 13 years and its never ending. Reality is reality and this kids today are not going to sit down and read like past generations, its a losing position on a large scale in my opinion. However, the movies can spark a conversation about what is in the movies and what isn't. That is key for me. I think Tolkien's works have been preserved and will be for future generations, but it the way its perserved and presented will have to evovle as well. I like both sides of the discussion, if in fact, it can be reduced down to 'two' sides of a discussion. How stereotypically Canadian of me!
What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?" www.onesecondleft.com @RDon1secleft http://donryfetor.blogspot.com/ @DonryFetor
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Christopher Tolkien speaks!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 1:50am
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Makes one think, if Tolkien were alive today... //
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 2:05am
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If JRR were alive
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Yngwulff
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Jul 12 2012, 2:31am
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"...making it an action movie for young people 15 to 25."
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 2:19am
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What LotR the book set out to be...
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Elizabeth
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Jul 12 2012, 7:29am
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I don't think Tolkien had an age range in mind -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:50am
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Christopher isn't the only one who feels they're 'action movies'
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 10:03am
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Sounds about right
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:01pm
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No surprise there ;)
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 12 2012, 9:35pm
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Not liking something
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:02pm
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But, I get the sense C. Tolkien has not seen the movies...
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 12 2012, 11:32pm
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Bad vibes from Christoper Tolkien
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:05pm
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inappropriate age-bashing
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 10:38pm
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wuh?
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:52pm
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Ageism
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Finrod
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Jul 15 2012, 4:01am
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I don't know about the 40s...
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 15 2012, 5:52am
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That's what I was trying to say above.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 15 2012, 7:26am
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Nope, I still disagree.
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geordie
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Jul 15 2012, 8:21am
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There is only sense that I would consider LOTR written for a young adult
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 15 2012, 2:07pm
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Strange as it may seem...
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dormouse
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Jul 15 2012, 8:24am
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yers...
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geordie
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Jul 15 2012, 8:30am
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Clarification
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Jeremy
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Jul 15 2012, 9:35pm
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So... you're saying that Tolkien put action in the books...
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dormouse
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Jul 15 2012, 10:27pm
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sigh...
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Jeremy
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Jul 15 2012, 10:47pm
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A less breakneck pace would have been preferable to me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 16 2012, 3:45am
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I have something that may speak to your question...
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 16 2012, 3:58pm
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It's a good example...
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dormouse
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Jul 16 2012, 6:55pm
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Speaking of putting people in boxes
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SirDennisC
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Jul 16 2012, 5:59am
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Oh, I like this
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Radhruin
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Jul 18 2012, 5:30am
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I find irony here.
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Ataahua
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Jul 12 2012, 2:56am
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Very well said...
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jschomburg
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Jul 13 2012, 5:44pm
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Not just the film stuff
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 3:02am
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Yes, well -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 8:23am
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Oops - a correction
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 8:52am
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Quite a contrast to J.K. Rowling's handling of many similar issues,
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Arandiel
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Jul 12 2012, 4:54am
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JK Rowling and Christopher Tolkien simply have different views on what constitutes good "popularization"
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 9:05pm
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Christopher is in a tough position.
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Silverlode
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Jul 12 2012, 6:28am
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Answering in general, but using your excellent post as a platform.
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sador
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Jul 15 2012, 10:24am
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On a slightly contentious note -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:32am
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Well,
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sador
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Jul 12 2012, 8:31am
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Agree
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:30pm
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Such bad manner!
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sador
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Jul 12 2012, 10:32am
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Very interesting
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imin
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Jul 12 2012, 2:27pm
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Yeah
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:24pm
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It is too bad that Christopher Tolkien can't be more positive
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 12 2012, 2:55pm
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Yes and no
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 3:21pm
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I agree with what you say about Christopher -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 3:36pm
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"Bought" doesn't mean "Read"
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Malveth The Eternal
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Jul 12 2012, 11:16pm
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This is true
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imin
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Jul 12 2012, 11:27pm
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No film adaption of LotR or TH could ever match the version in C. Tolkien's head...
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Otaku-sempai
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Jul 13 2012, 12:07am
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Too true
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 12:52am
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Not likely
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 13 2012, 1:28am
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That's Interesting to Know!
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 1:59am
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Any work..literature, art, music etc. becomes "lost" in the public
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Eruonen
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Jul 13 2012, 12:54am
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True
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:50pm
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Out of curiosity
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:12pm
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That's an extraordinary article, Voronwe
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dormouse
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Jul 12 2012, 4:43pm
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Wonderful comments //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2012, 6:35pm
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Well,
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 6:41pm
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I agree, geordie...
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dormouse
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Jul 12 2012, 6:53pm
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Ah -
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geordie
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Jul 12 2012, 7:11pm
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Agreed!
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Demosthenes
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Jul 12 2012, 7:25pm
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I think he is simply too close to the subject and simply
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Eruonen
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Jul 12 2012, 9:40pm
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I agree, and have a Star Wars comparison
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DavidDragonSlayer
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Jul 13 2012, 12:49am
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Its a very interesting situation....
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Donry
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Jul 12 2012, 9:59pm
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One area where I think Christopher and his father misintepreted the fanbase
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 10:19pm
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That is finest Post I have read here in a long time.
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Bombadil
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Jul 12 2012, 10:35pm
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Thanks!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 12 2012, 10:47pm
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Yep...
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Malveth The Eternal
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Jul 12 2012, 11:06pm
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Films gateway to the books
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Kirkman
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Jul 12 2012, 11:53pm
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This. //
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Evernight
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Jul 13 2012, 5:27pm
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This is a very important testimony.
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Elizabeth
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Jul 16 2012, 7:43am
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*what she said*
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Magpie
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Jul 16 2012, 1:21pm
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We got into this a bit
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SirDennisC
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Jul 16 2012, 3:49pm
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Great thread from all, and Elizabeth wraps it up for me.
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Lissuin
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Jul 16 2012, 8:18pm
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I agree!
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Jeremy
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Jul 17 2012, 12:53am
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This is true, but the problem is on both sides
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 17 2012, 5:38am
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Well said
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 17 2012, 2:03pm
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Me too
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geordie
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Jul 17 2012, 7:17pm
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If you get two groups representing two sides of an opinion in a room...
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Magpie
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Jul 17 2012, 9:44pm
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You didn't even read my posts- only took my words out of context
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Jeremy
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Jul 18 2012, 11:28pm
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Tommy Tuneful & G-Girl enjoy the Simple..
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 5:30pm
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I have always found it a pity...
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Compa_Mighty
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Jul 13 2012, 1:17am
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His home seems like Crickhollow!
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dernwyn
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Jul 13 2012, 1:38am
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One very interesting aspect of this article that I have not seen commented on anywhere
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 13 2012, 1:44am
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Completely sympathise with CT
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Nimloth9
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Jul 13 2012, 6:30am
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So, bottom line, would Christopher have preferred that fewer people had read his father's work?
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 13 2012, 6:56am
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Agree with this
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:09am
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Regardless of one's opinion on the films...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 13 2012, 8:17am
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I've know a few who tried to read LOTR after seeing the films.
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RosieLass
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Jul 13 2012, 3:16pm
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well... the first half of FOTR could be considered a bit boring, don't you think?
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Magpie
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Jul 13 2012, 3:32pm
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The first half of FOTR
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 8:16pm
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in your opinion... of course.
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Magpie
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Jul 13 2012, 9:20pm
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You misunderstand me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 13 2012, 9:42pm
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How do the literati phrase their disrespect for language arts?
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 2:33am
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There is much anti-intellectualism amongst intellectuals
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 5:57am
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Is it only genre literature we're talking about?
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 12:00pm
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I conflated two separate phenomena
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 6:09pm
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You are certainly right to...
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Beutlin
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Jul 14 2012, 4:50am
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Indeed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 5:49am
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On literature
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 2:21pm
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I fail to see your point
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 6:00pm
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Echo
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Finrod
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Jul 14 2012, 6:33pm
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Well, there's a clue
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squire
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Jul 14 2012, 8:06pm
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Simply because
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 14 2012, 8:23pm
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I would not compare "The Lord of the Rings" with "The Name of the Rose".
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Beutlin
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Jul 14 2012, 9:14pm
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Now that's what I call the *beginnings* of a critical approach that we can talk about
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squire
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Jul 15 2012, 1:40pm
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Rushdie's quote
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 16 2012, 10:30pm
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But that's not new.
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Silverlode
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Jul 13 2012, 7:51pm
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Thats annoying
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Marionette
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Jul 13 2012, 5:35pm
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On Lucas and Star Wars
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Jeremy
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Jul 14 2012, 10:01pm
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Fair enough...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Jul 15 2012, 11:37pm
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I think Christopher is being a little harsh..
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Jul 14 2012, 4:34pm
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No-one here can speak for Christopher -
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geordie
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Jul 14 2012, 4:55pm
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How is this Idea to solve the Riddle of CRT & SirPJ?
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 6:12pm
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I see your heart is in the right place
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geordie
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Aug 18 2012, 6:35pm
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Thang you very Bunch..
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Bombadil
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Aug 18 2012, 8:05pm
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