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Delrond
Rohan
Apr 9 2012, 4:45pm
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Dragons in the 2nd Age.
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In my effort to try figuring out when Smaug was born, it has led me to other thoughts along the way. For starters, it was stated that Smaug was already centuries old when he attacked Dale and claimed the Lonely Mountain. How many centuries did he dwell in the Northern Waste? How long do dragons live? Could Smaug have been alive during the Last Alliance? During the 2nd Age, Gandalf indicated that dragons destroyed 4 of the Dwarven rings, which was prior to the Last Alliance. Now when Smaug was killed, Gandalf was relieved; he believed Smaug would have almost certainly come under Sauron's power and destroyed the elven strongholds of Rivendell and Mirkwood.
This brings me to the following: If dragons were present in the 2nd Age, and Sauron would have enslaved Smaug had he lived, why is there no mention of dragons in the Last Alliance? One would think Sauron's power was greater at the end of the 2nd Age than it ever was at the end of the 3rd Age.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
A few harmless flakes working together can unleash an avalanche of destruction.
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Dragons in the 2nd Age.
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Delrond
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Apr 9 2012, 4:45pm
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lil' big Dragons
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PhantomS
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Apr 9 2012, 5:10pm
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Good question, Delrond, and thank you, PhantomS.
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Lissuin
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Apr 9 2012, 6:59pm
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Having pondered this a bit further,
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Delrond
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Apr 10 2012, 9:46pm
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The Four...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 10 2012, 10:07pm
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Well put
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Nuumeheruvi
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Apr 11 2012, 1:17pm
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I think it's the result of...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 11 2012, 2:27pm
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My thoughts
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DanielLB
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Apr 9 2012, 7:13pm
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I don't think that Smaug could have been born in the Second Age
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 9 2012, 8:03pm
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Morgoth made the Great dragons/Wyrms
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Nuumeheruvi
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Apr 9 2012, 9:06pm
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Tolkien seems to contradict himself on the subject of dragons breeding
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 9 2012, 9:12pm
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Yes that's the thing
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DanielLB
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Apr 9 2012, 9:16pm
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Who are these warriors of old?
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Delrond
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Apr 10 2012, 12:18am
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On that I'm fairly certain...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 10 2012, 2:33am
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Shelob & Smaug
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DanielLB
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Apr 10 2012, 7:07am
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Delrond was asking what was meant by...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 10 2012, 2:50pm
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Got that bit
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DanielLB
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Apr 10 2012, 3:02pm
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The Legendarium is fairly unified...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 10 2012, 3:20pm
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Yeah, your probably right
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DanielLB
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Apr 10 2012, 3:41pm
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created, indwelled?
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elevorn
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Apr 10 2012, 6:27pm
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Unknown
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DanielLB
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Apr 10 2012, 7:06am
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I believe that the answer is in the passage.
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 10 2012, 6:39pm
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Entirely plausible...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 10 2012, 7:12pm
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Born or "hatched?" //
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SirDennisC
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Apr 10 2012, 3:26pm
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Not Possible
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Tolkien Forever
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Apr 15 2012, 9:49am
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You make good observations but...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 15 2012, 3:00pm
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the 1960 Hobbit
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Elthir
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Jun 6 2012, 1:03pm
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