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TFP
Rivendell

Apr 5 2012, 7:21am
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The trailer-text was: Thorin: I cannot guarantee his safety. Gandalf: Understood. Thorin: Nor will I be responsible for his fate. Maybe it could be a part of the same dialogue, maybe not... Yes, that is completely new dialogue and seems to be getting at something that's a little different (in UT it's implied that bilbo's safety is the last thing thorin would choose to bring up). Also in the film/trailer I think the conversation might take place in bag end (that's not clear)?
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Film Rights and "The Quest of Erebor"
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DanielLB
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Apr 2 2012, 7:34am
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Technically...
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Elizabeth
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Apr 2 2012, 8:04am
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I agree -
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geordie
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Apr 2 2012, 2:52pm
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Oh yes
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DanielLB
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Apr 2 2012, 3:09pm
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it's going to be
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Wandering Ranger
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Apr 2 2012, 8:16pm
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"When was it written?"
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Moahunter
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Apr 2 2012, 10:30pm
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One caveat
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 2 2012, 9:45pm
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A rare moment of levity...
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SirDennisC
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Apr 2 2012, 10:10pm
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I don't think money is a factor.//
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geordie
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Apr 2 2012, 10:30pm
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Not the prime factor
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 2 2012, 10:47pm
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Thanks for all the information Voronwë /
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DanielLB
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Apr 3 2012, 7:04am
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Yes, that's pretty clear
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geordie
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Apr 3 2012, 9:52am
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Allow me to clarify
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 3 2012, 1:21pm
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I think I'm following you
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Magpie
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Apr 3 2012, 1:33pm
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I'm glad *someone* is following me
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 3 2012, 3:46pm
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I was following you too :-)
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DanielLB
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Apr 3 2012, 4:17pm
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Do not wory!
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 3 2012, 6:21pm
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You and the legions have greatly reassured me
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 3 2012, 6:38pm
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Thank You!
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MTT Gandalf
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Apr 3 2012, 3:54pm
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These seem reasonable assumptions -
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geordie
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Apr 3 2012, 7:18pm
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That may be the one assumption that is not reasonable.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 3 2012, 7:23pm
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Mind you -
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geordie
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Apr 3 2012, 7:45pm
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It may be...
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Elizabeth
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Apr 3 2012, 7:50pm
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Apart from being ahead of the news that Geordie the Goat was cast
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SirDennisC
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Apr 4 2012, 1:28am
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The Ring of Barahir appears in appendix A
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sador
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Apr 3 2012, 10:36am
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But not the description:
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Elizabeth
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Apr 3 2012, 7:41pm
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Right
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sador
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Apr 4 2012, 8:01am
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They can use
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Bergil'sEagle
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Apr 2 2012, 8:43am
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I thought as much, thanks Bergil'sEagle /
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DanielLB
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Apr 2 2012, 3:17pm
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They can also use the threat Sauron posed to The Elves, and certain White Council matters.
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 21 2012, 5:55am
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What about THE ANNOTATED HOBBIT?
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MTT Gandalf
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Apr 2 2012, 9:47pm
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I don't think so.
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 2 2012, 10:05pm
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Agree that don't need the UT stuff.
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TFP
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Apr 2 2012, 10:48pm
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PJ can do anything he pleases
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 3 2012, 7:39pm
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Rights to the UT version are not included
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Elizabeth
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Apr 3 2012, 7:47pm
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Solid case?
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 3 2012, 9:34pm
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If they incorporate details in UT that do not appear in LOTR Appendix A
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 3 2012, 10:14pm
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nope
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 4 2012, 2:26am
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You're making a legal assessment about this situation...
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Magpie
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Apr 4 2012, 2:46am
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Secret knowledge?
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 4 2012, 4:01am
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Get real.
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 4 2012, 12:45pm
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" what, pray tell, would the Tolkien Estate sue the owner of the film rights over? "
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Magpie
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Apr 4 2012, 1:55pm
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Well,
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sador
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Apr 4 2012, 2:00pm
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Inquiring minds want to know
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 4 2012, 2:20pm
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They probably will be very conservative
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entmaiden
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Apr 4 2012, 3:24pm
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I value your opinion highly
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 4 2012, 5:22pm
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On message boards, remember everybody is either a doctor, lawyer, or a distinguished Oxford Tolkien scholar.
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geordie
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Apr 4 2012, 2:48pm
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quest of erebor
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 4 2012, 3:20pm
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The issues
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TFP
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Apr 4 2012, 6:25pm
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It's not tone but writing that can be copyrighted.
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squire
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Apr 4 2012, 7:44pm
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Or they could write for the same scene a new text.
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MTT Gandalf
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Apr 4 2012, 8:11pm
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Was going to mention this,
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SirDennisC
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Apr 5 2012, 2:22am
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trailer
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TFP
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Apr 5 2012, 7:21am
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Conflict is key
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DarkJackal
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Apr 5 2012, 8:28am
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...
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TFP
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Apr 5 2012, 10:32am
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Tone of the movies
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 5 2012, 1:40pm
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Level of tension
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DarkJackal
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Apr 5 2012, 2:07pm
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Bag End vs. Bree
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TFP
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Apr 5 2012, 3:14pm
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Is "Understood." something Gandalf would say?
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squire
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Apr 5 2012, 1:10pm
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Understood
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TFP
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Apr 5 2012, 1:15pm
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Understood
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DarkJackal
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Apr 5 2012, 1:27pm
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So....
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Black Breathalizer
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Apr 5 2012, 1:03am
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I don't know - what do you think?
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squire
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Apr 5 2012, 1:29am
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I was thinking about this today.
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Magpie
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Apr 5 2012, 2:59am
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*pokes head in*
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DanielLB
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Apr 5 2012, 7:29am
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yeah... that was a good example I was thinking of
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Magpie
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Apr 5 2012, 11:31am
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Maybe, but not in that particular case, I think
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entmaiden
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Apr 5 2012, 5:58pm
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Most authors don't retain much control over adaptations of their works
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 5 2012, 8:29pm
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That's not quite what I was thinking of
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Magpie
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Apr 5 2012, 9:30pm
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Possible subjects of lawsuit
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 4 2012, 9:15pm
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Sorry
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Kangi Ska
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Apr 4 2012, 7:02pm
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Especially with his new title!
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sador
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Apr 4 2012, 8:16am
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Dont forget "The Hunt for the Ring"!!
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Danielos
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Apr 4 2012, 5:21pm
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Summary
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MTT Gandalf
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Apr 5 2012, 11:43am
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Summary
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TFP
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Apr 5 2012, 1:50pm
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Interestingly enough -
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geordie
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Apr 5 2012, 5:47pm
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Another question
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 3:32pm
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Letters is easy - (I think)
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geordie
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Apr 6 2012, 4:39pm
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