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Harold.of.Whoa
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Apr 4 2012, 6:01pm
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Consider the changes as being about Aragorn
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Aruman,
I think some of the complaints about Movie Elrond are valid, and you lay them out well.
I can't make you feel any better about the diminishment of a character you love, but I might suggest a couple of thoughts about why it might have been done.
The entire "Men are weak" story emphasis is, I believe, in place because of a decision to enlarge the importance of Aragorn's character, making him more of a co-equal figure with Frodo. Doing so required Aragorn's character to have more of a developmental arc than in the book, and also made it desirable to revise Aragorn's motivations to something easier for a broad audience to understand, accept, and invest in.
Elrond's display of personal dismay at Isildur's failings, his reproachful attitude toward Aragorn's life choices, and his extrapolated prejudice towards the potential for good in Men are all written in to lay the groundwork for Aragorn's 'journey.' Movie Aragorn shares this doubt about his own people and himself, and that provides a starting point for his transformation, his reason for staying in exile, the timing of his emergence, the reason he ultimately seeks the throne, and his evolving relationship with Arwen (even though they are separated for almost the entire trilogy.)
The emotional punch to the end of FotR stems directly from this storyline.
A side benefit (if you want to look at it that way) of the Elrond re-imagining is that it gives Elrond's character an arc as well, and it allows him to be in the story much more than in the book. It also enfolds him into a central theme that is woven throughout the trilogy having to do with Engagement vs. Withdrawal. Something similar is true for Arwen, to an even greater extent.
I have been thinking about this issue a lot recently in connection with another discussion in another forum, at least insofar as it pertains to Movie Aragorn's character and his core motivations. That's why I wanted to respond to your post. I know that none of this really defends the changes to Elrond, per se, but it might be something to ponder.
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Elrond in the movies
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aruman
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Apr 4 2012, 5:12pm
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Consider the changes as being about Aragorn
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Harold.of.Whoa
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Apr 4 2012, 6:01pm
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Good points
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aruman
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Apr 5 2012, 2:38am
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Elrond
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Fertlthewhite
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Apr 5 2012, 7:36am
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This raises a couple of issues
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DanielLB
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Apr 5 2012, 7:44am
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too kindly to end all evil once and for all?
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Fertlthewhite
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Apr 5 2012, 7:51am
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Elrond would have commited murder
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DanielLB
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Apr 5 2012, 8:08am
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martyr for the good
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Fertlthewhite
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Apr 5 2012, 8:16am
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Destroying the Ring
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Apr 6 2012, 2:37pm
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Thoughts
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aruman
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Apr 6 2012, 4:12am
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Agree with your points
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 8:33am
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The ring was weregild
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imin
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Apr 6 2012, 9:00am
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They were never
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 6 2012, 9:55am
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yeah exactly
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imin
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Apr 6 2012, 10:01am
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Weregild
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 10:07am
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It is written here
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imin
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Apr 6 2012, 10:12am
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Well I must of read it before then
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 10:18am
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Isildur
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 6 2012, 10:19am
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I have always thought
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imin
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Apr 6 2012, 9:54pm
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Letter 131
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 9:59pm
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yeah exactly
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imin
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Apr 6 2012, 10:30pm
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Yeah, its a tricky one
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 10:33pm
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There was a similar discussion on imdb recently
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Magpie
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Apr 6 2012, 10:43pm
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I correct
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 6 2012, 10:13am
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Movie Elrond
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 5 2012, 8:31am
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Agreed
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aruman
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Apr 6 2012, 3:56am
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We know that
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 8:29am
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Yes, Bombadil could have cast the Ring into the fire...
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 6 2012, 8:41pm
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Mis-understood my post
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 8:46pm
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"I do not think that word means what you think it means."
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 6 2012, 8:52pm
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Eh? /
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 8:55pm
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You understand perfectly well what I wrote.
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 6 2012, 9:03pm
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But I'm not arguing and
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 9:05pm
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It's a matter of semantics...
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 6 2012, 9:08pm
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Ok Otaku-sempai
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DanielLB
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Apr 6 2012, 9:13pm
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UM Aren't Elves Weaker Then Men
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TheGoblinKing
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Apr 10 2012, 9:46pm
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TheGoblinKing
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 10 2012, 10:14pm
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Still Yet
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TheGoblinKing
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Apr 11 2012, 12:43am
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Bilbo could use
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ElendilTheShort
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Apr 11 2012, 1:18am
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AND...
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aruman
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Apr 11 2012, 2:48am
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