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ElendilTheShort
Gondor
Mar 28 2012, 10:19am
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Sauron does not specifically enhance the WKing or the others at Pelennor it is just that as his power grows so does theirs. It is due to the inherent nature of the One Rings domination of the others. The attack ar weathertop failed because Frodo fought back, he called the name Elbereth which is a terror to the wraiths and also the wraiths in particular the WKing could sense that Aragorn was a person of great power although they did not know who he was. Tolkien specifically states that the WKing was afraid after the encounter at weathertop. This information is all referred to in various of Tolkiens letters and differs substantially from how it is told in the story as told by the movies. Although no outcome is certain in combat Gandalfs pwer especially as the White is still greater than that of the WKing who's primary weapon is still as it always was, fear. Although he retained the ability he had in life, he was still only ever a man in origin unlike Gandalf who is Maia, and even with restrictions placed on him as one of the Istari by the Valar he is greater still than the wraith of a man
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The Ring Wraiths
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 17 2012, 4:27pm
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Nope
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 5:17pm
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If only the men of Gondor knew this //
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 19 2012, 11:36pm
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Yes, does seem strange doesn't it
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 11:38pm
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I Have A Question
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 20 2012, 4:46am
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Don't forget, he was also slain pretty easy after loosing the ring
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 20 2012, 1:32pm
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Not that simple, IMO
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Mar 20 2012, 5:50am
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Yes
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DanielLB
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Mar 20 2012, 7:46am
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"Fire is our friend IN THE WILDERNESS"
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 20 2012, 1:36pm
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I don't think anyone could have killed the Witch King...
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Asger
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Mar 20 2012, 6:19pm
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When do you think the witch king was at the height of his powers?/
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imin
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Mar 20 2012, 6:56pm
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Movie Wise It Was Against Gandalf In The ROTK EE
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 20 2012, 7:23pm
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i think
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imin
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Mar 20 2012, 7:50pm
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Actually Id Prefer
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 20 2012, 7:55pm
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When do you think WK was at the height?
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Asger
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Mar 20 2012, 9:52pm
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So it is Gandalf that predicted the end of the world in 2012?!?!
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DanielLB
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Mar 20 2012, 9:57pm
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It was merry's sword
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imin
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Mar 20 2012, 10:36pm
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Not sure that makes sense
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DanielLB
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Mar 20 2012, 7:06pm
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I assumed
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DanielLB
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Mar 20 2012, 6:33pm
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And they're not in kill mode at Weathertop.
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RosieLass
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Mar 26 2012, 6:38am
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Wraiths and fear
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 28 2012, 10:19am
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Erm...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 29 2012, 6:04pm
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Fear was their weapon
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 30 2012, 8:33am
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Well...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 30 2012, 11:32am
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Power at Pelennor
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 30 2012, 6:55pm
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No.
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 31 2012, 6:34am
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Proof vs interpretation
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 31 2012, 7:21pm
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You say it's interpretation vs proof...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 31 2012, 7:31pm
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Context of reply
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 31 2012, 7:43pm
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Yes...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 31 2012, 8:10pm
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Written evidence
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 31 2012, 8:43pm
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Those statements...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 31 2012, 8:47pm
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No
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 31 2012, 9:12pm
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Don't...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 31 2012, 9:19pm
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*readies bucket of ice water*
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Ataahua
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Mar 31 2012, 9:25pm
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for me the gandalf and ringwraith scene
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imin
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Mar 17 2012, 5:27pm
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Now you mention it, that scene was done poorly
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 5:31pm
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I Am Sure
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 17 2012, 9:24pm
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Wow, what a massive simplification...
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 9:41pm
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Well
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 17 2012, 9:59pm
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Sting, Glamdring and Orcrist
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 10:02pm
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the worst part is...
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Mooseboy018
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Mar 17 2012, 10:16pm
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ssssh
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 10:24pm
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Glorfindel makes the prophecy
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PattyJB
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Mar 18 2012, 5:18am
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Only just seen this
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:20pm
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Waxing and waning Wraiths
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Harold.of.Whoa
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Mar 17 2012, 6:47pm
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true
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imin
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Mar 17 2012, 7:13pm
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As To That
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 17 2012, 9:30pm
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i
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imin
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Mar 17 2012, 11:36pm
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In the EE Version Of FOTR
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 12:23am
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oh ok
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 12:58am
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Merry's weapons in the movies
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Mooseboy018
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Mar 18 2012, 4:24am
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I Was Thinking
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 7:05am
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Aragorn would not of beaten the witch king
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 9:28am
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A combination
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 9:50am
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I Think Nasil
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 1:02pm
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Narsil
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:12pm
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Also Consider
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 1:16pm
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Yes, theoretically, anyone could have killed the Witch-King after Merry used his Noldor blade. /
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:18pm
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noldor blade or dunedain?
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 1:27pm
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Noldor Blade
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 1:28pm
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Sorry, I meant Numenor, as my previous posts. And this is referring the books. The films mess it up a bit /
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:43pm
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Well I Still Think He Stabbed Him With The Elf Dagger
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TheGoblinKing
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Mar 18 2012, 1:58pm
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Definitely not his elf dagger
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 8:45am
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wow
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Magpie
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Mar 19 2012, 2:18pm
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Me neither!
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 3:08pm
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Hold on
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 3:23pm
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Apart from the horse on it!
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 3:25pm
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I can imagine an 'untold tale' about those blades from Aragorn
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 19 2012, 5:08pm
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works for me! :-) //
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Magpie
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Mar 19 2012, 5:46pm
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I always like to think
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 11:15pm
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Hmmm I think the importance of gender comes across
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Mar 19 2012, 11:05pm
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Certainly
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 11:11pm
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Oh both play a role
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Mar 19 2012, 11:17pm
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I don't know
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 11:24pm
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Ah see I'm not so sure about that.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Mar 19 2012, 11:27pm
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Yeppidy yep
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DanielLB
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Mar 19 2012, 11:32pm
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Actually, not quite
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Mar 20 2012, 6:03am
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Theoretically
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DanielLB
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Mar 20 2012, 7:48am
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Aragorn
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 1:21pm
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Twas behind his knee /
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:22pm
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back of leg behind his knee, same thing, haha//
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 1:27pm
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I thought you said arm ;-) /
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 1:42pm
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This is a great difference Between Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White.
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JohnsS29
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Mar 19 2012, 6:11am
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In addition...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 17 2012, 6:50pm
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super Witch King
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Mooseboy018
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Mar 17 2012, 10:18pm
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This letter?
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DanielLB
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Mar 17 2012, 10:22pm
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Witch King XL
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 18 2012, 12:00am
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letter 210 is what ur looking for//
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imin
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Mar 18 2012, 1:01am
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I suppose you're right...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 18 2012, 7:46am
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Will check it out. Thanks imin /
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DanielLB
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Mar 18 2012, 9:48am
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Not the one I was thinking of, but good find.
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Mooseboy018
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Mar 18 2012, 4:16am
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Don't forget...
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Jim
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Mar 20 2012, 11:42pm
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I agree...
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Mar 21 2012, 7:13am
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