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Black Breathalizer
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Mar 19 2012, 1:37pm


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DarkJackal wrote: But all that being said, how many viewers are ever going to read this obscure note, or give a damn about the intricacies of dwarf longevity? An epic few! Which means most will simply take it at face value

I agree. This discussion of Thorin's appearance (older looking vs. younger looking) does raise the issue of how our society judges a person's behaviors and actions through the lens of age. Is stubbornness in a younger man viewed the same way when exhibited by an older man? How about brashness or pride? If Thorin is angry at Gandalf would it be viewed differently if the two were perceived by the audience to be the same age versus Thorin being much younger?

When you start to think about this question, it becomes much easier (at least in my mind) to understand why Thorin is portrayed as younger looking than most of us book fans expected.

Subject User Time
Thinking about Thorin Oakenshield Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 18 2012, 2:25am
    Hard to say Pittsmen Send a private message to Pittsmen Mar 18 2012, 2:43am
        Really? Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 18 2012, 2:57am
            Yes. Pittsmen Send a private message to Pittsmen Mar 18 2012, 4:22am
    Riddles Podcast Junesong Send a private message to Junesong Mar 18 2012, 2:51am
        link to thorin discussion mefansmum Mar 19 2012, 11:40am
            Tolkien prof DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 9:11pm
    There's nothing to really go by, One Ringer Send a private message to One Ringer Mar 18 2012, 5:49am
    I Don't Think TheGoblinKing Send a private message to TheGoblinKing Mar 18 2012, 7:12am
    I think they'll be a bit different ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Mar 18 2012, 2:55pm
        Thinking about Thorin Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 18 2012, 3:46pm
        Just what I was thinking DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 18 2012, 7:42pm
    When am I not... DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 18 2012, 7:08pm
        The role age plays in Thorin's character Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 18 2012, 7:52pm
            Thorin's age, or... DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 3:56am
                Ageism Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 19 2012, 1:37pm
                    If old = wise... DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 10:57pm
                        Dain Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 19 2012, 11:29pm
                            Exactly! DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 11:47pm
                            There was only 21 years between their ages. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 19 2012, 11:59pm
                Wow! Brilliant explanation. lindorian Send a private message to lindorian Mar 19 2012, 4:15pm
                Thorin's Appearance: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 19 2012, 7:27pm
                    old, long, white bearded thorin imin Send a private message to imin Mar 19 2012, 7:43pm
                        Since Howe and Lee ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Mar 19 2012, 8:08pm
                            Everyone Grows on the Quest: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 19 2012, 9:47pm
                                Evolution of character and story DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 20 2012, 1:42am
                                    The influence of the dragon sickness Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 20 2012, 2:00am
                                        Agreed 100% Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Mar 20 2012, 5:17am
                        I love this pic too DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 9:33pm
                    Color? DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 8:49pm
                        The Beard of Thorin by inference Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 19 2012, 9:50pm
                            By that logic... DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 9:53pm
                                That still does not match what Peter is doing with Thorin. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 19 2012, 10:02pm
                                    Careful now... sinister71 Send a private message to sinister71 Mar 19 2012, 10:07pm
                                        As long as no offense is intended DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 19 2012, 11:42pm
                                    Well, Kangi Ska, ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Mar 19 2012, 10:14pm
                            Not necessarily marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Mar 20 2012, 1:12am
                                Well Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Mar 20 2012, 1:17am
                                    Other explanations marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Mar 20 2012, 1:46am
    Wowie this discussion is amazing. Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Mar 20 2012, 3:18pm
    Will Thorin become jealous of Bilbo? Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 23 2012, 8:48pm
        I can't see it that way duats Send a private message to duats Mar 23 2012, 8:54pm
            Thorin's flaws Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 23 2012, 9:22pm
                I agree with duats. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Mar 23 2012, 10:07pm
                    Ooooooooh DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 23 2012, 10:21pm
                    Honorary dwarf? DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 24 2012, 3:04am
                        Thorin and Bilbo Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Mar 24 2012, 5:20pm
                If anything duats Send a private message to duats Mar 23 2012, 11:56pm
                It is often hard for jealous people Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 10 2012, 3:14am
        Jealous? DarkJackal Send a private message to DarkJackal Mar 24 2012, 2:32am

 
 
 

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