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JWPlatt
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Mar 15 2012, 2:48am


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If the Hobbit Pub has been operating openly (name and movie stuff) then why wd SZ be entitled to the excuse that it just wasn't aware of it until now? Shouldn't the burden be on the IP holder to protect its IP rights by due diligence?
You expect omniscience? How reasonable of you.

The rights holder is responsible for protecting its rights. That why they are taking this action. Where did we lose you?

If you ask me, that requirement can create huge injustices. In all fairness, the violator should be responsible for all costs. Let's say you're an average joe living on a modest wage. If you had written a book of your own creation, but it never sold or wasn't a success, I'm sure you'd change your mind if the same huge corporation stole your idea and made big profits from it. Are you saying you wouldn't then object to the cost of defending your rights against a bottomless pit of legal funding? If you want to root for the small guy, make the violator responsible and be consistent. The ability to see things from multiple viewpoints, and not just the emotional ones, really is a requirement for making fair assessments of justice.

Subject User Time
Hobbit pub in Southampton threatened with legal action DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 11:44am
    Ah that is truly awful!!........... Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Mar 13 2012, 12:25pm
        Yes it's ridiculous! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 12:31pm
        Here's another example of this bullying... Timdalf Send a private message to Timdalf Mar 14 2012, 9:58pm
    More news: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 12:29pm
        Tweet from Stephen Fry DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 9:56pm
            Perfect from Stephen Fry Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Mar 13 2012, 10:41pm
    That's mad!// Nightingale Send a private message to Nightingale Mar 13 2012, 12:31pm
    They are copyrighted and SZC is well within their rights. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 13 2012, 6:45pm
        Yes indeed DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 7:08pm
        The argument is irrelevant, that's true... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Mar 13 2012, 7:22pm
            Actually, that's not exactly True. NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Mar 13 2012, 8:32pm
                Perhaps it has only recently come to the attention of SZC. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 13 2012, 8:53pm
        is there anybody here familiar with copyright law... Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 13 2012, 8:10pm
            No I'm not DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 13 2012, 8:18pm
                I found something Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 13 2012, 10:04pm
            The issue is as much (if not more) trademark as copyright... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 14 2012, 1:07am
                no argument there. also, note htat Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 14 2012, 1:39am
                    The Saul Zaents Company needn't be a bully... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 14 2012, 2:03pm
                        Hobbit Pub hodekin Send a private message to hodekin Mar 14 2012, 4:57pm
                            Welcome to TORN, hodekin! Arwen's daughter Send a private message to Arwen's daughter Mar 14 2012, 5:34pm
                        I quite agree, and this might be happening indeed kiwifan Send a private message to kiwifan Mar 16 2012, 1:27pm
            I'm not, but have a look at this Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Mar 14 2012, 8:11am
                Zaentz JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Mar 14 2012, 12:46pm
                i found something else Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 14 2012, 1:46pm
            Paging Voronwë_the_Faithful! Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 14 2012, 9:35pm
        Where do their rights end and the Tolkien Estate's rights begin? NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Mar 13 2012, 8:36pm
            I'm not sure either. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 13 2012, 8:51pm
    In an industry that routinely SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Mar 14 2012, 1:23am
    Blatant Infringement JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Mar 14 2012, 3:14am
        Waiting game DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 14 2012, 8:32am
        Technically, I agree with you, Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Mar 14 2012, 4:56pm
            I don't think "emotion" would stand up in court. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 14 2012, 10:06pm
        i agree with you that Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 14 2012, 6:17pm
            They may have just found out about it. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 14 2012, 10:13pm
                whose burden is it? Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 14 2012, 10:41pm
                    Justice JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Mar 15 2012, 2:48am
                        not omniscience... due diligence. Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 15 2012, 4:02am
            What we may be missing... Eregyrn Send a private message to Eregyrn Mar 14 2012, 10:24pm
                please see my reply to Elizabeth just a moment ago. Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Mar 14 2012, 10:45pm
    quick comment Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 14 2012, 2:05pm
    This is so wrong. Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Mar 14 2012, 4:54pm
    Posted in a thread in off topic DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 14 2012, 11:29pm
    Pub "Saved" ricster Send a private message to ricster Mar 15 2012, 6:41pm
        All's well that ends well DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Mar 15 2012, 6:57pm
        Excellent. Pretty much what Elizabeth said... Patty Send a private message to Patty Mar 15 2012, 8:33pm
        There you go! RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 15 2012, 8:50pm
            Right JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Mar 16 2012, 2:20am
                You two have fought the good fight here. :-) Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 16 2012, 3:22am
            Well SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Mar 16 2012, 4:06am
                Oh, I agree. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Mar 16 2012, 2:44pm
    Question Alyianna Baggins Send a private message to Alyianna Baggins Mar 19 2012, 7:18pm
        The Hobbit License JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Mar 20 2012, 12:55am

 
 
 

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