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Kangi, that doesn't make sense.

AinurOlorin
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Feb 12 2012, 6:05pm


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Kangi, that doesn't make sense. [In reply to] Can't Post

And you know it doesn't. I don't know where this strain of antipathy comes from towards that Great Noldorian Elf who drove The Witch King himself from the field of battle in the final wars between Angmar and failing Arnor,was close in counsel and friendship with Gandalf and Elrond, and had more power and wisdom than Haldir, Lindir, Gildor, Galdor, Figwit and, yes, even the mighty Tauriel, even were they all combined into a single obscure superelf.

All that aside, here is the problem with that sarcastic bit of analogy. The Blue Wizards don't live in Rivendell. By the time of The Hobbit neither Alatar nor Pallando would have paid any visits to Rivendell in at least Three Centuries. They went into The East with Saruman, but remained there and did not return with him. And Saruman returned West near three hundred years before LOTR, bearing gifts and aid to King Frealaf Hildeson of Rohan whilst discretely seeking THe Pallantir of Orthanc, and settled at Angrenost, dwelling thereafter in The Tower of Orthanc in The Ring of Isengard, with the blessing and to the initial comfort of Beren The Steward of Gondor. The Blue Wizards, as much as many of us might like to see them in some time or place in something or another, really don't belong at any meeting of The Council which takes place as far along in the timeline of The Third Age as those represented in the coming film are.

Glorfindel, on the other hand, lives in Rvendell, was the great (quasi holy) champion and war captain in those battles against the evil forces of The North and East that Rivendell still ocassionally took part in during The Third Age. He was actually present at Council meetings and active in The West during that period of The Third Age. So I don't see the validity of the earlier analogy.

Just saying.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Feb 12 2012, 6:14pm)

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An idea for Cumberbatch's cameo. aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 11 2012, 10:42pm
    Cameo? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 11 2012, 10:45pm
        He's officially confirmed for both duats Send a private message to duats Feb 11 2012, 10:53pm
            Well... aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 11 2012, 11:33pm
                What would the point be? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 10:23am
                    The reason is simple: aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 12 2012, 12:16pm
                        The answer is: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 1:56pm
                    It depends if we see his face... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Feb 12 2012, 12:20pm
                        I agree with QuackingTroll ThorinII Send a private message to ThorinII Feb 12 2012, 1:55pm
                        Yeah, I suppose DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 1:57pm
                        I really doubt that Annatar will appear. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 3:35pm
                    Because some fans want to see his fleshy-face. Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:27pm
            Thanks duats DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 10:24am
    Glorfindel daemoon Send a private message to daemoon Feb 12 2012, 1:02am
        Yah! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 3:37pm
            Kangi, that doesn't make sense. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 12 2012, 6:05pm
                Um I think it was a joke. Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:30pm
                You see, Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 8:39pm
                    I know how you feel Kangi. And you know how I feel. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2012, 2:23am
    I doubt they'd throw an actor like Cumberbatch in the background for a "blink and you'll miss it" cameo. Carne Send a private message to Carne Feb 12 2012, 1:17am
        If you go by the Andy Serkis precedent Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:32pm
    a few "if"-s miriel Send a private message to miriel Feb 12 2012, 1:56pm
        Listening overmuch to the audience Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Feb 12 2012, 8:02pm
            I love the speculation and debate about what PJ should do in TH but Gwytha Send a private message to Gwytha Feb 12 2012, 10:40pm
    never heard of the guy . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Feb 12 2012, 7:00pm

 
 
 

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