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Cheesy music-hall scenes from the Tom Bombadil chapters

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Dec 1 2011, 8:10pm


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Strange furtive noises ran among the bushes and reeds on either side of them; and if they looked up to the pale sky, they caught sight of queer gnarled and knobbly faces that gloomed dark against the twilight, and leered down at them from the high bank and the edges of the wood. They began to feel that all this country was unreal, and that they were stumbling through an ominous dream that led to no awakening.

Its walls were of clean stone, but they were mostly covered with green hanging mats and yellow curtains. The floor was flagged, and strewn with fresh green rushes. There were four deep mattresses, each piled with white blankets, laid on the floor along one side. Against the opposite wall was a long bench laden with wide earthenware basins, and beside it stood brown ewers filled with water, some cold, some steaming hot. There were soft green slippers set ready beside each bed.

Moving constantly in and out of his talk was Old Man Willow, and Frodo learned now enough to content him, indeed more than enough, for it was not comfortable lore. Tom’s words laid bare the hearts of trees and their thoughts, which were often dark and strange, and filled with a hatred of things that go free upon the earth, gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning: destroyers and usurpers.

The hobbits sat still before him, enchanted; and it seemed as if, under the spell of his words, the wind had gone, and the clouds had dried up, and the day had been withdrawn, and darkness had come from East and West, and all the sky was filled with the light of white stars.

'Tell me, who are you, alone, yourself and nameless? But you are young and I am old. Eldest, that’s what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.’

After they had eaten, Goldberry sang many songs for them, songs that began merrily in the hills and fell softly down into silence; and in the silences they saw in their minds pools and waters wider than any they had known, and looking into them they saw the sky below them and the stars like jewels in the depths. Then once more she wished them each good night and left them by the fireside.

...at that moment a clear call came rippling down. There on the hill-brow she stood beckoning to them: her hair was flying loose, and as it caught the sun it shone and shimmered. A light like the glint of water on dewy grass flashed from under her feet as she danced.

Even as they looked out in dismay towards the setting sun, it sank before their eyes into a white sea, and a cold grey shadow sprang up in the East behind. The fog rolled up to the walls and rose above them, and as it mounted it bent over their heads until it became a roof: they were shut in a hall of mist whose central pillar was the standing stone.

Out of the formless stream of sad but horrible sounds, strings of words would now and again shape themselves: grim, hard, cold words, heartless and miserable. The night was railing against the morning of which it was bereaved, and the cold was cursing the warmth for which it hungered. Frodo was chilled to the marrow.

The hardest part about making a movie of a Tolkien book is that the writing and camerawork ought to be truly magical. I sometimes think the New Line films left the Tom Bombadil sections out not because they were too corny (they're not), nor because they would take up too much time (a judgment call), nor because they don't move the story along (first define the story of LotR), but because those sections came out of Tolkien's literary soul and were just too hard to write and film.

There is similar writing, from the same soul, in many parts of The Hobbit. I wonder if these upcoming films will try to capture those parts of the book?




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Chip the Glasses in after all? Wandering Ranger Send a private message to Wandering Ranger Nov 29 2011, 7:39am
    My reaction was the opposite... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 29 2011, 7:51am
        Indeed, it would be hypocritical of them QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Nov 29 2011, 1:32pm
            How about Gandalf'sMother Nov 29 2011, 2:22pm
                Gandalf, the alcoholic triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 2:28pm
                    Gandalf doesn't stop the chaos Gandalf'sMother Nov 29 2011, 2:36pm
                        Well Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 29 2011, 9:54pm
                    Maia Thorgal Send a private message to Thorgal Nov 29 2011, 3:55pm
                They look really drunk in the vlog Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 29 2011, 2:29pm
                    They shouldn't be rampaging, but triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 2:37pm
                        but i agree triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 2:42pm
                            next thought^^ triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 2:56pm
                CGI irodino Send a private message to irodino Nov 29 2011, 3:58pm
    I hope so. squire Send a private message to squire Nov 29 2011, 11:45am
        same here ByThorinsBeard Send a private message to ByThorinsBeard Dec 3 2011, 5:58pm
            probably some type Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Dec 3 2011, 9:10pm
                who knows ByThorinsBeard Send a private message to ByThorinsBeard Dec 4 2011, 12:14am
    I hope not. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 29 2011, 1:19pm
    Staged JWPlatt Nov 29 2011, 4:15pm
        So? triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 5:38pm
        As likely as not that's just them fooling around Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 29 2011, 6:54pm
            Right JWPlatt Nov 29 2011, 7:23pm
            I douby they are just throwing around props Gandalf'sMother Nov 29 2011, 8:25pm
                All indications are that these guys are big jokers Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 29 2011, 8:39pm
                Moreover Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 29 2011, 8:51pm
                    The camera is rolling, the music is playing Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 29 2011, 9:06pm
                        They are filming. EyeRock Send a private message to EyeRock Nov 29 2011, 9:55pm
                    I doubt they would Gandalf'sMother Nov 29 2011, 9:17pm
                        agreed triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 29 2011, 9:38pm
                    We saw dirty dishes stacked in Bilbo's kitchen in an earlier vlog Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Nov 30 2011, 3:05am
                        Oh I definitely agree Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 30 2011, 6:15am
                            Tolkien and Disney triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 30 2011, 6:23am
                                It's very simple... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 30 2011, 4:01pm
                                    It could be, but it's not Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Nov 30 2011, 7:37pm
                                        Eowyn's song Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 9:20pm
                                            Exactly Marillë by the Sea Send a private message to Marillë by the Sea Nov 30 2011, 9:32pm
                                            I disagree Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Dec 1 2011, 1:06am
                                                Got it Gandalf'sMother Dec 1 2011, 1:22am
                                                Just a point. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Dec 1 2011, 4:21pm
                                                    Right you are Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Dec 1 2011, 5:06pm
    My theory is that it will be just like the book Junesong Send a private message to Junesong Nov 29 2011, 6:06pm
        This actually sounds very plausible. Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 29 2011, 6:32pm
        Sounds good IDLookout Send a private message to IDLookout Nov 29 2011, 7:04pm
        I agree also Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Nov 29 2011, 10:51pm
            That would be great Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 2:17am
    It occurs to me Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Nov 29 2011, 10:55pm
    GOD I HOPE NOT Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Nov 30 2011, 12:21am
        On second thought, let's not go to Hobbiton Arwen's daughter Send a private message to Arwen's daughter Nov 30 2011, 2:23am
            Seriously duats Send a private message to duats Nov 30 2011, 3:10am
            You are so right Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Nov 30 2011, 3:18am
        The Sound of Music Finrod Send a private message to Finrod Nov 30 2011, 2:38am
        Considering these little gems PJ gave us in the "dark" trilogy duats Send a private message to duats Nov 30 2011, 3:32am
            Ends JWPlatt Nov 30 2011, 5:09am
                ... He farts too duats Send a private message to duats Nov 30 2011, 5:51am
                    Hmmm JWPlatt Nov 30 2011, 6:28am
                        Yes, you need surround sound to hear it Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Nov 30 2011, 2:24pm
                            Of course not. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 30 2011, 2:49pm
                                If we were in a tavern Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Nov 30 2011, 7:20pm
        no songs, just like LOTR.. grinman Send a private message to grinman Dec 1 2011, 3:28pm
            LOTR didn't have enough songs, IMO. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Dec 1 2011, 4:22pm
            Don't forget "Rock and Pool, nice and cool..." ;-) EyeRock Send a private message to EyeRock Dec 1 2011, 7:53pm
    The only reason you might not get them singing the song Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Nov 30 2011, 6:20am
        Memory Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 6:30am
            I agree dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 30 2011, 11:29am
                The reason the songs in The Hobbit don't work QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Nov 30 2011, 12:06pm
                    How often have you heard dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 30 2011, 12:32pm
                        A good example of this is from "Whose Line is it Anyway?" taekotemple Send a private message to taekotemple Dec 1 2011, 4:03am
                    Have you seen these dwarfs? Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 30 2011, 12:40pm
                    1. Chip the Glasses Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 3:34pm
                        Yeah but... Ececheira Send a private message to Ececheira Dec 1 2011, 7:07am
                            and? Wandering Ranger Send a private message to Wandering Ranger Dec 1 2011, 7:15am
                                i still don't triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Dec 1 2011, 9:57am
                    At The Theater JWPlatt Nov 30 2011, 3:51pm
                        I think it is likely audiences said to themselves Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 4:17pm
                            Weird JWPlatt Nov 30 2011, 7:58pm
                                songs are songs... triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Nov 30 2011, 9:20pm
                                    Its not that I didn't like the songs and poems Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Dec 1 2011, 2:32am
                                        They don't sing "all the time" Gandalf'sMother Dec 1 2011, 5:15am
    I think it would be brilliant to have some dwarven singing here.... Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Nov 30 2011, 4:51pm
        'not like every character breaking into song and dance' Nightingale Send a private message to Nightingale Nov 30 2011, 6:31pm
        Thank you! Marillë by the Sea Send a private message to Marillë by the Sea Nov 30 2011, 9:21pm
            If the vlog is any indication Gandalf'sMother Nov 30 2011, 9:26pm
    I have to chuckle a little bit about this thread. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Dec 1 2011, 4:25pm
        Cheesy music-hall scenes from the Tom Bombadil chapters squire Send a private message to squire Dec 1 2011, 8:10pm

 
 
 

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