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Valinor
Mar 10 2011, 10:18pm
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possibly true, but I thought we were talking about
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repentant orcs. I didn't mean to sashay into what happens to orcs after they die, and am not sure how I got here. LOL. I mean only this: we only see bad orcs, and the "backstory" we get about orcs indicates they were once either elves or men and somehow they were converted into evil beings. And that is what I object to, as I would assume any elf or man who had a soul (if there is such a thing as a soul) has a chance to choose to do good, even if he had been orc for generations of generations. I don't wish we had more characters feeling sorry for orcs. I wish we did not have corrupted soul-possesing creatures devolved into something else to begin with. I wish we just had monsters, plain and simple. a.s.
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LotR, Book III Discussion: The Road to Isengard
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Curious
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Feb 27 2011, 1:25pm
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Ok here we have this forest....please keep axes stowed away in the upper compartment or under your seats.....
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PhantomS
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Feb 27 2011, 7:39pm
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That was quick!
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Curious
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Feb 27 2011, 8:27pm
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be hasty!
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PhantomS
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Feb 28 2011, 12:21pm
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I think Tolkien
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Curious
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Mar 3 2011, 3:30pm
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More thoughts about your thoughts.
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Curious
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Mar 3 2011, 10:17pm
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thoughts on thoughts
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PhantomS
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Mar 4 2011, 3:54pm
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Why would the Hornburg be ruled out as a rendezvous?
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Curious
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Mar 4 2011, 6:49pm
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Good idea
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Feb 27 2011, 11:41pm
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A visit to the bad neighbor
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CuriousG
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Feb 28 2011, 1:20am
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You could raise some question of your own,
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Curious
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Feb 28 2011, 1:00pm
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Ents neglecting hobbits
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CuriousG
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Feb 28 2011, 1:27pm
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Excellent question!
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Curious
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Feb 28 2011, 3:29pm
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You must be *this tall* to enter Isengard
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PhantomS
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Mar 2 2011, 1:34am
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A few responses
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sador
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Mar 2 2011, 8:08am
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oh darn
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PhantomS
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Mar 2 2011, 5:02pm
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Good point about the staff.
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Curious
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Mar 5 2011, 6:08am
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The staff is important
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FarFromHome
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Mar 5 2011, 12:26pm
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we need a Bible scholar
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a.s.
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Mar 5 2011, 3:11pm
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I've refered to this once
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sador
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Mar 5 2011, 8:39pm
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I agree about Gandalf's staff.
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Curious
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Mar 6 2011, 9:26pm
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Weather and floods and magic
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CuriousG
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Mar 7 2011, 3:47pm
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Let's see, where did I leave off?
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Curious
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Mar 8 2011, 8:08pm
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Orcs as sadists
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CuriousG
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Mar 9 2011, 5:57pm
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You were right the first time.
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FarFromHome
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Mar 9 2011, 6:06pm
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Ugluk said so.
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sador
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Mar 9 2011, 6:11pm
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He said so twice, actually
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squire
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Mar 9 2011, 8:12pm
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I have also understood so. //
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sador
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Mar 10 2011, 7:10am
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Okay, I guess a distinction
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Curious
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Mar 9 2011, 9:27pm
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Rivendell not a credible choice for a refuge / stronghold
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Felagund
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Mar 9 2011, 10:04pm
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My best rationalization/explanation
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Curious
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Mar 9 2011, 10:41pm
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woe as in malediction; and about those orcs...
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a.s.
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Feb 28 2011, 4:21am
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Well, if "woe" means the Ring,
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Curious
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Mar 9 2011, 11:01pm
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no, not "the Ring", but "something like"
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a.s.
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Mar 9 2011, 11:53pm
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Wright or worng?
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squire
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Mar 10 2011, 1:40am
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Yes, Tolkien didn't take the easy path.
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 6:12am
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I will think about this
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a.s.
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Mar 10 2011, 12:59pm
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Aragorn does parlay with the orcs at Helm's Deep.
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 1:24pm
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do you mean in theology, or in ME?
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a.s.
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Mar 10 2011, 2:46pm
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As I understand it, mortal sin cannot be forgiven after death.
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 3:15pm
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possibly true, but I thought we were talking about
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a.s.
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Mar 10 2011, 10:18pm
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It does make things complicated.
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 10:39pm
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Some random answers
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FarFromHome
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Feb 28 2011, 3:33pm
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Cheddar Gorge
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Kimi
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Feb 28 2011, 11:16pm
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Gimli does seem more down to earth,
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 4:25pm
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1. Some thoughts and answers to Questions A-Y.
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squire
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Feb 28 2011, 8:55pm
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A score
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FarFromHome
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Feb 28 2011, 9:38pm
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Thanks for adding your own questions!
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Curious
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Feb 28 2011, 10:16pm
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Regarding your extra thoughts
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sador
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Mar 2 2011, 10:01am
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There's bacon
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FarFromHome
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Mar 2 2011, 10:23am
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I finally have the opportunity
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Curious
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Mar 10 2011, 10:00pm
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Orc survivors from Helm's Deep
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Felagund
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Feb 28 2011, 9:49pm
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I did not know that.//
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Curious
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Feb 28 2011, 10:17pm
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Not Helm's Deep - they escaped from the Battles of the Fords of Isen
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squire
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Mar 1 2011, 7:48pm
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Helm's Deep still the best source for the Drúwaith Iaur 'remnant'
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Felagund
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Mar 2 2011, 10:49pm
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Imprisonment not exile.
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 2 2011, 11:17pm
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Well spotted!
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Felagund
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Mar 3 2011, 12:15am
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2. Some thoughts and answers to Questions Z-ZZ.
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squire
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Mar 1 2011, 12:17am
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The need for a red shirt character
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Elizabeth
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Mar 1 2011, 5:25am
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It's early days yet!
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Mar 4 2011, 10:49am
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Regarding your extra thoughts - part 2
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sador
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Mar 2 2011, 11:17am
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Okay, back to your answers.
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Curious
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Mar 13 2011, 7:10pm
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3. Some thoughts and answers to Questions AAA-ZZZ.
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squire
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Mar 1 2011, 12:56pm
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Great observations
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CuriousG
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Mar 1 2011, 1:50pm
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Regarding your extra thoughts - part 3
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sador
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Mar 2 2011, 12:00pm
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Well
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Darkstone
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Mar 1 2011, 3:54pm
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You crack me up!
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Curious
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Mar 1 2011, 4:17pm
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All right, I have to get back to work,
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 1 2011, 5:38pm
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Well (Part Deux)
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Darkstone
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Mar 1 2011, 7:07pm
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“Two legs bad, root system good.”
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CuriousG
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Mar 1 2011, 8:46pm
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"Ho ho ho! The sheepers do not play at their craft."
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sador
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Mar 2 2011, 2:12pm
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Comments on the chapter's summary
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sador
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Mar 1 2011, 5:47pm
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post-battle burial mounds / markers
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Felagund
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Mar 3 2011, 12:13am
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creepy places
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PhantomS
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Mar 3 2011, 6:29pm
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Snowmane was buried, not burned //
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FarFromHome
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Mar 3 2011, 8:06pm
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4. Some thoughts and answers to Questions AAAA-YYYY.
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squire
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Mar 2 2011, 8:46pm
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Regarding your extra thoughts - part 4
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sador
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Mar 3 2011, 10:34am
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How the Ents and Nazgul are alike
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squire
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Mar 6 2011, 7:35pm
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Gandalf
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Mar 3 2011, 12:30am
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5. Some thoughts and answers to Questions ZZZZ-YYYYY.
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squire
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Mar 3 2011, 6:47am
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Those paved roads...
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FarFromHome
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Mar 3 2011, 11:23am
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Regarding your extra thoughts - part 5
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sador
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Mar 6 2011, 9:43am
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cutting in
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PhantomS
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Mar 6 2011, 12:15pm
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If I may be so bold as to disagree
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sador
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Mar 6 2011, 1:50pm
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re:
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PhantomS
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Mar 7 2011, 8:59am
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6. Some thoughts and answers to Questions ZZZZZ-OOOOOO.
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squire
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Mar 4 2011, 11:55am
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You are welcome.
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Curious
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Mar 4 2011, 1:42pm
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Your three last thoughts
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sador
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Mar 6 2011, 10:36am
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On the "collision"
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FarFromHome
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Mar 8 2011, 10:11am
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Answers - part I
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sador
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Mar 6 2011, 3:55pm
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Of Orcs and Gimli...
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batik
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Mar 7 2011, 4:15am
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Answers - part II
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sador
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Mar 7 2011, 10:14am
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Rhovanion ancestors and the burning of prisoners
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Felagund
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Mar 9 2011, 9:42pm
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I have forgotten that. Thank you!
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sador
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Mar 10 2011, 7:16am
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