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Feb 11 2011, 3:08pm
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Also, I have been pronouncing it as "Bay-lin" and "Dway-lin" since the first time I read them, and was surprised to hear "Bah-lin" and "Dwah-lin" Anyone else? anyone got definitive pronunciation? It’s quite definitely supposed to be [ˈbɑːlɨn] and [ˈdwɑːlɨn], not [ˈbeɪlən] and [ˈdweɪlən]! It sounded like she got all the other dwarves’ names pretty close correct, too, including even using [ɾ] instead of [ɹ] for Ori, Dori, and Nori, and using a two‐syllable hiatus instead of a one‐syllable diphthong in Óin and Glóin. That was all nice to hear. She did botch the final r in Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur, but that’s just her own non-rhotic accent punching through. It should be [ˈbɔːmbɚ] — which is sometimes written [ˈbɔmbəɹ] — but certainly not [ˈbɒmbə] the way she said it with no r whatsoever. So it’s not correct, but I imagine they’ll fix it up for the production in any Kiwis whose twang they decide needs taming. She’s also a victim of the cot–caught merger, as I’ve indicated above in the first syllable of Bombur. Like Tolkien himself and also John Rhys‐Davies’ portrayal of Gimli, the two Scots should both be native rhotic speakers, which will work out well for them. I think James Nesbitt is too; not sure on Aidan Turner. The Englishmen and Kiwis are not native rhotic speakers, however, so they may have to fix that up during dialect coaching. I figure that just as they did with Merry and Pippin versus Frodo and Sam, they might well try to zero in on a single shared dialect only between each set of Dwarves who are closely related and then let each group vary a bit from each other group. Balin and Dwalin should have no trouble being both Scots, but these are after all actors, so they should be able to handle any required dialect shifts without too terribly much work. I wouldn’t be surprised if they left Martin Freeman pretty close to RP, which is non‐rhotic, since it will give him a more bourgeois or semi‐posh sound. I seem to recall that Ian McKellen put more r into his Gandalf, having studied and adopted Tolkien’s own (rhotic) accent for the rôle. Here are the actors’ nationalities:- Bilbo: Martin Freeman – England
- Thorin: Richard Armitage – England
- Fíli: Rob Kazinsky – England
- Kíli: Aidan Turner – Ireland
- Balin: Ken Stott – Scotland
- Dwalin: Graham McTavish – Scotland
- Bifur: William Kircher – New Zealand
- Bofur: James Nesbitt – Northern Ireland
- Bombur: Stephen Hunter – New Zealand
- Óin: John Callen – New Zealand
- Glóin: Peter Hambleton – New Zealand
- Ori: Adam Brown – England
- Nori: Jed Brophy – New Zealand
- Dori: Mark Hadlow – New Zealand
Interesting that there’s no one from the States, Canada, or Australia. Harder to work the accents, maybe? Or maybe it’s just because those countries don’t end in “‑land”? :)PLEASE NOTE: That’s all written using standard IPA notation. If you quote this posting in a reply, you must change Post Style to read “Markup and HTML” or else it will be ugly and scrambled.
…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.The Silmarillion, pp 150-151 while Felagund laughs beneath the treesin Valinor and comes no more to this grey world of tears and war.The Lays of Beleriand, p 311
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Dominion's Coverage of Hobbit Press Conference
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News from Bree
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Feb 10 2011, 4:59pm
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What on [Middle] Earth??
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Brandybuckled
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Feb 10 2011, 10:24pm
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They changed the picture in the article
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duats
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Feb 10 2011, 10:33pm
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yeah, the new picture is nice
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Oiotári
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Feb 10 2011, 10:35pm
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It kinda irks me
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duats
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Feb 10 2011, 10:41pm
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Yeah but...
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Vellamo
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Feb 10 2011, 11:39pm
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From what I've seen
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Welsh hero
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Feb 10 2011, 11:41pm
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Post new photo?
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Maddie
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Feb 10 2011, 10:42pm
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Here
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duats
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Feb 10 2011, 10:46pm
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Thanks so much!
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Maddie
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Feb 10 2011, 10:47pm
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Another pic
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BG
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Feb 10 2011, 11:19pm
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No live video stream?
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Estel78
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Feb 10 2011, 10:36pm
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More photos
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LoremIpsum
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Feb 10 2011, 10:42pm
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Excellent photos
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Bexlin
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Feb 10 2011, 10:44pm
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Thanx loads.//
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Kangi Ska
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Feb 10 2011, 11:00pm
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Is this all?
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 10 2011, 10:45pm
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seems disapointing
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Welsh hero
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Feb 10 2011, 10:59pm
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yeah...
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Brandybuckled
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Feb 10 2011, 11:09pm
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Where is the bread?//
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Kangi Ska
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Feb 10 2011, 11:22pm
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Bombur ate it? //
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Brandybuckled
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Feb 10 2011, 11:44pm
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A snippet from Martin Freeman...
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Ataahua
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Feb 10 2011, 11:09pm
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Hahaha!
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Maiarmike
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Feb 10 2011, 11:11pm
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And a snippet from Richard Armitage
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ShireHorse
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Feb 10 2011, 11:16pm
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Do you think his Mum has pictures?
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dormouse
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Feb 10 2011, 11:20pm
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Yeah, I BET his mum has pictures
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ShireHorse
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Feb 10 2011, 11:25pm
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That's a fantastic picture!!
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thesithempire
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Feb 10 2011, 11:37pm
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Indeed!
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Maiarmike
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Feb 10 2011, 11:44pm
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Here's another shot of Armitage
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ShireHorse
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Feb 11 2011, 12:21am
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is it bad
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titanium_hobbit
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Feb 12 2011, 1:07am
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Actually, he said a paper mache Gollum.
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Milknut
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Feb 11 2011, 7:28am
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My version, Milknut,
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ShireHorse
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Feb 11 2011, 9:34am
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Armitage's voice
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Lost Hobbit
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Feb 11 2011, 10:00am
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Sounds like he's got just the sense of humor that will make the long shoot a pleasure.
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Patty
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Feb 10 2011, 11:32pm
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More importantly:
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Vellamo
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Feb 11 2011, 12:00am
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Probably doesn't matter
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duats
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Feb 11 2011, 12:02am
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Ahem
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Vellamo
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Feb 11 2011, 1:34am
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Ha ha ha ha
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debo
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Feb 12 2011, 7:52pm
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Yes they is! Vellamo's preciousesss… //
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Vellamo
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Feb 13 2011, 4:21pm
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Beard versus clean-shaven Idea: latex allergies
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titanium_hobbit
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Feb 11 2011, 5:17am
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It could also be....
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Silverlode
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Feb 11 2011, 5:21am
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Wouldn't it have been epic...
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Maiarmike
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Feb 10 2011, 11:10pm
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Actually
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duats
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Feb 10 2011, 11:32pm
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What a gyp!
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Pipe Dream
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Feb 10 2011, 11:36pm
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This is monumentally disappointing.
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Hamfast
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Feb 10 2011, 11:56pm
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Yeah...
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Maiarmike
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Feb 11 2011, 12:00am
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And...
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Hamfast
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Feb 11 2011, 12:14am
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Well I, for one, am thrilled.
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RosieLass
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Feb 11 2011, 3:20am
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A little video
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BG
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Feb 11 2011, 12:24am
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A ha! Thanks BG
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Oiotári
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Feb 11 2011, 12:32am
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And another:
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Ataahua
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Feb 11 2011, 12:47am
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Thanks BG.
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silneldor
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Feb 11 2011, 11:12pm
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thanks to everyone who posted pics and videos
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Magpie
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Feb 11 2011, 12:37am
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It wasn't for me
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Oiotári
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Feb 11 2011, 12:46am
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actually...
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Magpie
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Feb 11 2011, 1:00am
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I was talking about
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Oiotári
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Feb 11 2011, 1:04am
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tvnz.co.nz vid
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hikaru
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Feb 11 2011, 1:44am
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thanks for the link. //
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Magpie
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Feb 11 2011, 2:51am
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The latest Real Player downloaded them flawlessly.//
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Kangi Ska
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Feb 11 2011, 1:38am
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ah, yes... sorry. I'll try it in IE //
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Magpie
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Feb 11 2011, 2:50am
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The Hobbit media press conference - full version (video) and direct link - by duats
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Altaira
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Feb 11 2011, 5:02am
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Stott and Armitage
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SirDennisC
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Feb 11 2011, 5:08am
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Very much so!
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Ainu Laire
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Feb 11 2011, 5:42pm
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fun... but I can't hear any of the questions.
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Magpie
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Feb 11 2011, 5:12am
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It was hard for me to hear too.
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Pipe Dream
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Feb 11 2011, 12:48pm
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Thanks for reposting, Altaira
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duats
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Feb 11 2011, 5:41am
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Prosthetics may not play
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SirDennisC
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Feb 11 2011, 6:05am
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Dwarf age?
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mulubinba
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Feb 11 2011, 9:48pm
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Yes!
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RosieLass
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Feb 11 2011, 10:19pm
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Thorin is the oldest dwarf in the company.
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Ælfwine Samylfin
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Feb 12 2011, 7:55am
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You know, that makes me wonder....
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Silverlode
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Feb 12 2011, 10:02am
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It would justify the youthful casting wouldn't it? //
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Kangi Ska
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Feb 12 2011, 10:06am
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It might help to explain it...
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Silverlode
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Feb 12 2011, 10:24am
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Yes, but.......
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mulubinba
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Feb 12 2011, 10:55pm
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A younger actor:
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Kangi Ska
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Feb 12 2011, 11:20pm
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Does anyone think
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ShireHorse
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Feb 12 2011, 11:34pm
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I don't think so
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duats
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Feb 12 2011, 11:47pm
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Well
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ShireHorse
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Feb 12 2011, 11:56pm
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FoTR opened in a spectacle
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duats
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Feb 13 2011, 12:03am
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I suppose I find flashbacks
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ShireHorse
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Feb 13 2011, 12:12am
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I think...
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Maiarmike
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Feb 13 2011, 12:16am
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To be exact
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duats
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Feb 12 2011, 4:53pm
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Marvelous.
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Silverlode
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Feb 11 2011, 8:34am
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Thanks for the links...
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dormouse
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Feb 11 2011, 1:25pm
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what a wonderful way to meet the cast
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Oiotári
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Feb 11 2011, 4:41pm
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Seriously
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rings7
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Feb 11 2011, 4:52pm
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Very much fun. Thank you Altaira\\
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silneldor
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Feb 11 2011, 11:38pm
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I was not disappointed in the least by this conference...
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Owain
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Feb 11 2011, 5:34am
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Having watched the full conference now...
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Vellamo
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Feb 11 2011, 12:45pm
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So surreal...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Feb 11 2011, 6:15am
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Lovely!
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maut
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Feb 11 2011, 10:30am
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yes yes yes!
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titanium_hobbit
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Feb 11 2011, 1:29pm
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Vowel Movements and Burrrrs
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Finrod
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Feb 11 2011, 3:08pm
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Now there's a conspiracy theory I can get behind.
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Ataahua
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Feb 11 2011, 5:43pm
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Finrod
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macfalk
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Feb 11 2011, 6:06pm
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The Hobbit & Dwarves have spoken
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Dragon81
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Feb 11 2011, 11:34am
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Ian McKellen
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ShireHorse
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Feb 11 2011, 4:43pm
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I don't know what people are complaining about
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DrDeath153
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Feb 11 2011, 12:43pm
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Here you go, DrDeath!
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ShireHorse
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Feb 11 2011, 3:15pm
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Speaking for myself
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Oiotári
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Feb 11 2011, 4:39pm
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From the Home Page -->Complete Audio of 'The Hobbit' Press Conference
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Altaira
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Feb 11 2011, 1:08pm
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Actually, sod cynicism, this is THE HOBBIT!
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DrDeath153
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Feb 11 2011, 1:45pm
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May I join your digital dance?
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Vellamo
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Feb 11 2011, 2:42pm
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A happy DrDeath?
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Ataahua
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Feb 11 2011, 5:42pm
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It may seem so
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DrDeath153
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Feb 12 2011, 1:28pm
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I fear that may be impossible.
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dernwyn
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Feb 12 2011, 6:59pm
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haha
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Magpie
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Feb 12 2011, 7:31pm
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I'm a silent member of the club.
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Silverlode
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Feb 12 2011, 8:08pm
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I have to say
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Magpie
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Feb 12 2011, 10:16pm
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Or
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Kelvarhin
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Feb 13 2011, 12:54pm
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Oh, my...
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dernwyn
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Feb 13 2011, 1:49pm
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*grins*
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Kelvarhin
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Feb 14 2011, 4:53am
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Ha!
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Silverlode
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Feb 12 2011, 7:44pm
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Yes I agree
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debo
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Feb 12 2011, 7:49pm
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I think that's part of the fun
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Magpie
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Feb 12 2011, 8:05pm
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Great description of Thorin - thanks!
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mulubinba
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Feb 12 2011, 11:39pm
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RA and Tolkien
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bookgirl13
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Feb 13 2011, 7:05am
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Vicar of Dibley
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Magpie
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Feb 13 2011, 4:19pm
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RA & comedy
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Vellamo
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Feb 13 2011, 5:00pm
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Richard Armitage
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ImmortalThree
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Feb 11 2011, 4:29pm
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It's great to finally see the cast together
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Flagg
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Feb 11 2011, 5:38pm
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