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carrioncrow
Lorien
Jan 8 2011, 12:03am
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here is a rough outline of what i had in mind from over a year ago: A Hobbit, Master Samwise Gamgee (a respectable 102 years old), stands alone with the aid of a walking stick in contemplation in what appears to be a beautiful well tended garden in the midst of the glade where Frodo first appears in Peter Jackson’s FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. (It is, in truth, now the gravesite of Sam’s wife, Rose Gamgee) CUT TO: A few more scenes of morning in Hobbiton. CUT TO: A "well-to-do" Hobbit is shown tidying up on the doorstep of Bag End and preparing to settle down and enjoy a "pipe of tobacco out of doors". This hobbit is Samwise Gamgee, Master of Bag End. His morning regimen is disrupted by an intrusion...several of his own grandchildren (including a young Holfast Gardner) and other children from the holes of the Lower Hill. Up to mischief or actually seeking Samwise for entertainment…a tale is called for…"Frodo of the Nine-Fingers"…no…here on the doorstep of Bag End on this morning it is the Tale of Bilbo and "The Road going ever on and on…" that Sam has in mind. Sam sits down with the children all around and begins the tale of Bilbo’s adventure with Gandalf and the Quest for Erebor… The events of THE HOBBIT – CHAPTER 1 "An Unexpected Party" – PAGES 11-36 events of THE HOBBIT – CHAPTER 2 "Roast Mutton"– PAGES 37-43 up to the point where Bilbo steps into the firelight of the three trolls…"and this is what he saw…" One of the trolls turns from the fire to face Bilbo. It is a terrible creature just as full of menace as those trolls portrayed in Moria or the Black Gate of Peter Jackson’s LOTR… CUT TO: A trembling hobbit child (Holfast Gardner?). The story has become a bit too intense for the young hobbit. Sam interrupts the tale to speak a word of comfort, pauses to consider…The story resumes, but now in a gentler (strictly PG-rated) tone more reminiscent of JRRT’s original HOBBIT as written. The tone of the Film will only slowly build back to the PG-13 intensity of Jackson’s LOTR films. FADE BACK: The story picks up again at the trolls’ camp. They are still threatening creatures, but now with intelligible speech and a slightly comic aspect to their character. Proceed with the story: THE HOBBIT – PAGES 44-106 Sam’s presence as "THE NARRATOR" will be keenly felt from the point Bilbo finds the ring until Bilbo is reunited with the dwarves on the Mountain side. Perhaps we’ll hear the children shout out the answer to the riddles… proceed with THE HOBBIT – CHAPTER 6 – PAGES 107-226 CUT TO: Sam looking into the eyes of the hobbit children. "…Going on from there was the bravest thing Bilbo ever did. The tremendous things that happened afterwards were as nothing compared to it. He fought the real battle in that tunnel alone, before he ever saw the vast danger that lay in wait…" Sam pauses and looks into the eyes of young Holfast. Holfast sets his jaw and nods deliberately as if to say "Yes. Go on." At this point the tone of the film has returned to the PG-13 level and intensity of Peter Jackson’s LOTR films. The image of Bilbo walking down the dark tunnel toward the light and heat of the dragon’s lair draws obvious parallels to Sam’s own experience at Mount Doom. FADE TO: THE HOBBIT – CHAPTER 12 – PAGES 227-278 Gandalf, Balin and Bilbo settle down with their evening pipes outside the doorstep of Bag End. FADE TO: Sam and the children sitting on the very same doorstep all those years later. It has changed little. It is now evening for Sam and the children as well. He finishes the tale and sends the children off to home and bed. Some reside at Bag End. Sam takes a moment alone to look at the stars. He recites a bit of his own poetry. As a few of the children enter the front hall of Bag End, Elanor (Sam’s eldest daughter) steps outside. She brings a satchel and Sam’s Elvish cloak. He has a moment with his daughter. A company of Elves comes around the hill on their way west to the sea. Sam has been expecting them. He heads off to join them with walking stick in hand. THE END
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Subject
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User
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Time
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Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit'
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News from Bree
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Jan 6 2011, 11:20pm
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I knew it!
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 7 2011, 5:52am
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Wow!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:14am
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Not a fan of this
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duats
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Jan 7 2011, 6:15am
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My reaction is the same, but...
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Milknut
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Jan 7 2011, 6:24am
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It just strikes me
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duats
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Jan 7 2011, 6:29am
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The filmmakers, or the film's budget providers?
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:46am
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Agreed.
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:50am
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This is NOT a shock... tho is is sad.
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jarrellj
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Jan 7 2011, 2:42pm
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PJ, Fran and Philippa Boyens are huge fans of Tolkien.
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:44pm
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And let's not forget Guillermo del Toro
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 2:47pm
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I'm not so sure on GDT.
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:57pm
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I think that statement was taken out of context.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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respectfully disagree
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 5:30am
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Really?
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Sunflower
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Jan 8 2011, 6:07am
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I'm afraid PJ will turn him into at least a bit of an "action-hobbit", sadly.//
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The Party Tree
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Jan 8 2011, 6:31am
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is it that much of a stretch??
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 6:47am
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really!
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 6:36am
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A couple of questions:
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 6:48am
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...
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 7:02am
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I wouldn't say
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 2:15pm
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case in point...
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 8:39pm
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According to the EE appendices
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 8:58pm
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let me check
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 9:27pm
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I think the other reasons
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 9:38pm
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question
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 9:48pm
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Well
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:03pm
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I concur
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nobofthepony
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Jan 9 2011, 12:51am
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Aragorn and the cliff
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:06am
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exact quote...
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 8 2011, 9:51pm
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Well they were hardly going to say something like
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:08pm
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But sometimes they should
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Altaira
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Jan 8 2011, 10:26pm
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I meant no disrespect to them
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Flagg
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Jan 8 2011, 10:31pm
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Lets also not forget
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Junesong
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Jan 8 2011, 11:34pm
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I think
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macfalk
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Jan 9 2011, 12:31am
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14 foot bad guys
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:02am
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Yes he did change his mind
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Ataahua
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Jan 7 2011, 7:54pm
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Financial gain first?
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:39pm
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I'm sorry but
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R11
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Jan 7 2011, 9:13pm
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Agree with duats...
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Captain Salt
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Jan 7 2011, 5:42pm
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The Hobbit or the Hen?
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mtsquad
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Jan 7 2011, 11:22pm
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HUH?
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 6:43am
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Methinks Peter has been watching too much LOST.//
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54am
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LOL
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 7:03am
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My brain hurst as well.
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 7:05am
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Great points by the way.//
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:55am
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Yes, actor Ryan Gage
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 11:33am
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Also, what most of the nay-sayers are forgetting
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 11:58am
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There will be blood...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 12:19pm
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We're Fans. Of course we're going to cry, moan, complain, and bicker about every little detail! What else did you expect? ;) //
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:26pm
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Narrator
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Vangalad
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Jan 7 2011, 12:30pm
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The narrator's voice
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:52pm
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But you forget
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 6:42pm
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How the heck must these movies then be viewed in future?
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hobbit2012
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Jan 7 2011, 7:46pm
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Two points
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:53pm
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My guess is that we could possibly see Ian Holm telling Wood
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Eruonen
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Jan 7 2011, 8:28pm
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Elijah Wood 10 years on
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carrioncrow
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Jan 7 2011, 11:40pm
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I love it
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Junesong
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Jan 7 2011, 6:28am
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Every time I come on here
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Lindele
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Jan 7 2011, 3:00pm
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A bit too much complaining, yes //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:07pm
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If you think this is bad....
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:16pm
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In my crystal ball
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:24pm
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Or else...
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:32pm
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Both.
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:02pm
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It's not a purse! It's a Middle Earthian carry-all!!
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Brandybuckled
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Jan 7 2011, 7:16pm
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LOL!
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:42pm
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Well, if we're allowed only to agree with everything...
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 4:10pm
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Right.
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 4:24pm
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That is by no means what I'm saying
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Lindele
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Jan 7 2011, 4:44pm
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Lindele..
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 4:46pm
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Lindele
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 5:37pm
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Not so much positive or negative,
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 6:11pm
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Sorry.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 6:25pm
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Lindele, I see your point.
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:11pm
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You're right about the McKellen announcement
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:20pm
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I think
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:26pm
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Here's a thought
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 7:36pm
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I love the idea of working Bombadil in somehow
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39pm
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Well, I was hoping that everyone would be new, too.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:26pm
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I agree
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:33pm
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Well, no.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39pm
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What you are talking about sounds like a reboot
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 7:47pm
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That's exactly what I wanted.
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 8:41pm
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Audiences don't want excellent series to be rebooted.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 8:55pm
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Everyone? Who is this "everyone"?
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 9:01pm
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I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:11pm
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Please take this to PM if you must continue
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Altaira
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Jan 7 2011, 10:14pm
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Continuity
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:26pm
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Thanks Silverlode
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Lindele
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Jan 9 2011, 7:00am
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I agree
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LoremIpsum
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Jan 9 2011, 8:01am
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Tying in The Hobbit with LOTR
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:18am
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and then...
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carrioncrow
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Jan 9 2011, 2:19pm
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Well he didn't need to
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 2:36pm
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I wish there was a like option like facebook
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Junesong
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Jan 9 2011, 6:45pm
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"Naysayers"
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Sunflower
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Jan 9 2011, 7:51pm
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Sunflower, Thanks for that
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 8:50pm
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I agree with basically everything you said
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 9 2011, 9:54pm
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Making Bilbo's journey more powerful than it is in the book.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 9 2011, 9:55pm
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Who said Bilbo's journey was weak?
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Flagg
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Jan 10 2011, 3:49pm
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Improvement is a very relative term
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 10 2011, 4:02pm
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Do you really think so?
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Flagg
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Jan 10 2011, 4:56pm
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But we know
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Bran
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Jan 10 2011, 5:05pm
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It's only going to get worse :)
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:58pm
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Remark about "upsetting the most ardent purists"
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 6:33am
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You are right
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MrCere
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Jan 7 2011, 7:06am
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Heh!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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Regarding purists
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 12:26pm
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Oh yes, I agree there are different levels of 'purity'
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:19pm
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Thanks! You just gave me an idea for my sig line!
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Brandybuckled
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Jan 7 2011, 6:57pm
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Forgive my ignorance, but
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 10:51pm
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NARF: Not a real fan. //
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:53pm
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Many thanks.//
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm
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Most things like that can be found at the TORNspeak dictionary
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:59pm
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LOL!!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm
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You are correct, sir!
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hamlet
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Jan 7 2011, 5:13pm
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Hmmm...
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 6:44am
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Good point
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 7:00am
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And what about Sir Ian Holm?
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 7:27am
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I believe Ian Holm has retired from acting. Health issues I believe.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 7:30am
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Oh yes, I just said this in MrCere's poll in the pollantir...
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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yes
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 8:42am
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So
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rings7
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Jan 8 2011, 5:15am
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It would fit with the Hobbit's narrative style!
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:00am
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It would fit the narrative style for sure...
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Owain
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Jan 7 2011, 7:10am
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about the Princess Bride..
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 7 2011, 7:23am
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Relax
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sharku
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35am
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"No mention of Christopher Lee"
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40am
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Sort of like my unwavering belief
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:44am
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I suspect Guillermo del Toro had nothing to do with this.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:00am
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I don't view it as one, either
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 7:39am
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What I thought from the start...
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moreorless
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Jan 7 2011, 5:15pm
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Why not run with the book version?
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flying fish
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Jan 8 2011, 10:12am
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I may have read it wrong but
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sphdle1
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Jan 7 2011, 12:31pm
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making freeman the earlier version of holmes
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 7 2011, 7:01am
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Of course he won't be the 15th member...
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 7 2011, 7:18am
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Now I have to go home and dig out a letter I wrote and sent
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 7:22am
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I have to be honest
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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
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Jan 7 2011, 5:05pm
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Hear hear!
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Mithrandír
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Jan 7 2011, 5:24pm
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So it takes Frodo
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Ataahua
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Jan 7 2011, 8:01pm
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Hi Ataahua!! *waves*
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Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
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Jan 8 2011, 3:46pm
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*Points at Kangi....."Burn him!"
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Snaga
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Jan 7 2011, 11:37pm
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The thought of being responsible makes me queasy.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 12:23am
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I found the letter. I thought I had deleted it but It got saved on disk when I backed up My Doccuments
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 1:38am
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If you wrote that letter then why are you dissappointed by this news? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 8 2011, 2:23am
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As I said earlier:
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 2:32am
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The Neverending Hobbit
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guitarzankansasfan
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Jan 7 2011, 8:04am
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But wasn't there a car chase in there some where?//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:06am
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Re: The Neverending Hobbit
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Seanwise
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Jan 7 2011, 12:50pm
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Not really surprised..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 8:49am
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Agreed!
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Imladris18
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Jan 7 2011, 9:13am
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I like it...
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Maiarmike
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Jan 7 2011, 9:21am
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sniff sniff.
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Welsh hero
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Jan 7 2011, 9:04am
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I'm just delighted!!!
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mae govannen
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Jan 7 2011, 9:26am
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This is fun!
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 1:19pm
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Well, it does make sense to do it that way
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Kyriel
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Jan 7 2011, 11:01am
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Oh. My. Gahd... No
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geordie
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Jan 7 2011, 1:28pm
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That's a tad melodramatic.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:30pm
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Honest question
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 2:24pm
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Perhaps
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 2:39pm
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Geordie.... come back.... ;-)
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 2:48pm
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I think he was being tongue in cheek
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 3:36pm
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sorry
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geordie
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Jan 7 2011, 4:10pm
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Well... goodbye geordie.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 4:28pm
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Ah, the youth of today...
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:55pm
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I'm guessing..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 6:48pm
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I agree, it seemed as a strange comment to make //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54pm
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Very interesting
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 1:29pm
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Yes! Sam would be a better choice to flow off of tRotK
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 2:21pm
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Sequel? How can it be....
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 2:56pm
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The impression I got
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 3:07pm
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Red Book reading
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:47pm
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No conclusive reason.
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:59pm
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No probs
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 6:06pm
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Agreed
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 6:18pm
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Knowledge of the ring
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 6:54pm
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Yes that occured
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:23pm
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Just to add -- already looking forward to
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:41pm
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I think that's right
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:38pm
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Oh, well, welcome to TORn then Bran
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SirDennisC
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Jan 9 2011, 1:34am
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Hint to Bran:
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macfalk
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Jan 9 2011, 1:52am
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No-no Threaded always!
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 9 2011, 3:42am
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SirDennis, Macfalk
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Bran
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Jan 9 2011, 11:13am
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You always make good sense Flagg
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silneldor
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Jan 7 2011, 9:41pm
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Thanks, silneldor – I appreciate it. //
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
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Sam would have been a logical choice...
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 11:06pm
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I'm for it.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 2:07pm
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" the most famousest of hobbits "
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Rivendweller
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Jan 7 2011, 4:22pm
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Could Frodo be "reading" Bilbo's story in Rivendell?
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 2:15pm
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The Hobbit is not a LOTR prequel, it's a sequel
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nobofthepony
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Jan 7 2011, 2:36pm
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Is it sure that Frodo will experience the story through the book?
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RaoulJ
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Jan 7 2011, 3:04pm
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Since Frodo is back, Strider should make an appearance as well. //
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 3:13pm
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Boromir too //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 3:15pm
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I wonder how are they going to get Lurtz in there? /
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 3:18pm
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We see a flashback where Lurtz attacks Itaril... //
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acheron
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Jan 7 2011, 4:05pm
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Or maybe Lurtz *is* Itaril!
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 7:16pm
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*mods up*
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 7:20pm
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Haha. Good one, Darkstone //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:23pm
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Maybe this is where they're moving the Trolls' purse. //
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RosieLass
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Jan 7 2011, 7:28pm
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So they're making a troll's purse from an elf's ear? /
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Darkstone
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Jan 7 2011, 7:35pm
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It is a gift. //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 7:36pm
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No wonder she wouldn't take it back /
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:20pm
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Boromir as the first ghost of Yules past.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:36pm
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Must... resist... fangirl.. urge... to agree... seriously... //
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 4:56pm
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Strangely absent here: "A squeee heard round the world." /
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SirDennisC
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Jan 10 2011, 5:04pm
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I knew as soon as they started announcing cameos that I'd get addicted.//
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 6:38pm
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What I'm More Concerned About...
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DarthNeeson
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Jan 7 2011, 3:25pm
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Christopher Lee would love to play Saruman in The Hobbit
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 3:33pm
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Frank Langella as Saruman....
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KingofAncients
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Jan 7 2011, 5:24pm
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It wasn't my idea
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 5:32pm
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Langella
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 5:35pm
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They both have played Dracula, did you know?//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 11:07pm
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Did they play the same Dracula?
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 11:14pm
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Lee did several Dracula & vampire films.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 12:31am
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Lee as Saruman
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 5:50pm
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I trust Pete!
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petesimac
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Jan 7 2011, 3:36pm
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Quite Intriguing
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Lord Maegmoth
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Jan 7 2011, 4:16pm
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Agreed.
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Elentari03
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Jan 7 2011, 4:31pm
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Relieved!
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Shireling
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Jan 7 2011, 4:36pm
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GREAT
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Alex Maglor
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Jan 7 2011, 4:52pm
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Seamless transition...
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Junesong
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Jan 7 2011, 4:58pm
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I like it!!
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 6:01pm
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yes yes yes!
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titanium_hobbit
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Jan 9 2011, 3:26am
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Great narrating
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Mithrandír
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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without even reading ...
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xy
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Jan 7 2011, 5:22pm
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No, he was nor born
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 5:26pm
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As good a way as any
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DrDeath153
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Jan 7 2011, 5:52pm
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Great news if true
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LoremIpsum
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Jan 7 2011, 6:09pm
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What happens to....
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Jettorex
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Jan 7 2011, 6:30pm
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Especially since...
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Daeorn Aldalómë
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Jan 7 2011, 6:34pm
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That depends
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 6:38pm
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If you ask me,
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Silverlode
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40pm
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I agree
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Jettorex
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Jan 7 2011, 8:31pm
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That would be perfect.
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The Party Tree
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Jan 7 2011, 6:44pm
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Who knows?
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dormouse
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Jan 7 2011, 7:11pm
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Me too
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Ainu Laire
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Jan 7 2011, 11:20pm
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Wonderful news!!
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peleowyn
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Jan 7 2011, 7:17pm
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Guess I'll jump in
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Doriath
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Jan 7 2011, 7:40pm
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I like the idea
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 8:01pm
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Middle-earth I: The Phantom Hobbit
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:23pm
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I'm just glad they won't swap Gollum with Jar-Jar. //
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macfalk
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Jan 7 2011, 8:24pm
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You said it, Macfalk...
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Patty
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Jan 7 2011, 8:28pm
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What makes you so certain?
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 8:43pm
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Gandalf to Balrog: "Why do I get the feeling you will be the death of me?"//
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nobofthepony
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Jan 8 2011, 5:44am
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Drogo and Primula
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 8:56pm
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Yes it looks as if the Bridge Film is being reborn as a Wrapper for the Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:30pm
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I wonder how much GDT is really still involved in the script writing.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 9:44pm
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The script should be very close to completion by now
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Flagg
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Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
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Most likely true,
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 9:53pm
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Going out on a limb here
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 9:55pm
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I'm not saying I mind...
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:00pm
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True dat
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:17pm
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NDA?
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Bound
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:18pm
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Guessing Non-disclosure agreement.
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Pipe Dream
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Jan 7 2011, 10:19pm
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ah right...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 10:22pm
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Both Kangi and I take exception to that appraisal
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:46pm
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Apologies...
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 11:01pm
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Sean Astin
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:08am
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Wait, what?
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Ataahua
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:16pm
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Yarp...
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Bound
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:23pm
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Love him to pieces, but...
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The Party Tree
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:32pm
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Honesty the best policy..
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Bound
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Jan 7 2011, 11:39pm
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I love Sean
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Sunflower
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Jan 7 2011, 11:56pm
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Oh no, I agree completely
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Ainu Laire
|
Jan 8 2011, 3:39am
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Thanks for being understanding
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Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:19am
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Wrong target
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:37am
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Oh, well,
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Ataahua
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Jan 8 2011, 2:03am
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I would beg to differ.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:00pm
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It may have escaped my attention
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SirDennisC
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Jan 7 2011, 10:13pm
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Not necessarily so. 3-D is a big for instance.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:56pm
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I think this whole approach is new.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 9:54pm
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Not new
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 7 2011, 10:10pm
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Perhaps you are correct but there is new and NEW.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 7 2011, 10:38pm
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Bringing back cast members
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Bran
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Jan 7 2011, 11:53pm
|
Except that, of all of those...
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RosieLass
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:59pm
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Well yes
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:08am
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Only Balin's tomb was shown //
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:31am
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Balin's tomb
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 9:31am
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The bridge film is dead.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 10:32am
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I know the bridge film is dead
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 10:56am
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I did not say that such events would not be drug in.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 8 2011, 11:05am
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Balin
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:13am
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The telling of the failed effort to colonize Moria by Balin & company
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:46am
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Kangi
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:55am
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The letter I quoted in an earlier post was from the fanfic part of my brain.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:05pm
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Balin in Moria not necessary for the Hobbit
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Bran
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Jan 8 2011, 12:01pm
|
It would take one line of dialog
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:55pm
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Let's agree to differ!
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:00pm
|
Bridge film is dead, but
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macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:25am
|
I am not trying to champion a purist approach to the Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:00pm
|
There's an easy solution to this
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Flagg
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:42pm
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I agree with that
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Bran
|
Jan 8 2011, 2:08pm
|
I was pointing out that many of these side issues can be taken care of inside the story of The Hobbit.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 5:34pm
|
Haha
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:48pm
|
I mentioned it, Voronwe
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Sunflower
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:32pm
|
With his patented weird angles and everything
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 9:43pm
|
and don't forget the slo-mo!
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Sunflower
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:42pm
|
Preach it sista!
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:49pm
|
They can do a bazillion frames a minute...
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:58pm
|
So it was you huh? When was your last visit to France?
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:27pm
|
Sadly, I have never been to France.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:56am
|
Are you kidding?
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Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:06am
|
Not really
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:41am
|
Best example...
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Bound
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:11am
|
Guillermo's tentacles are only an ugly rumor. //
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:36am
|
One thing is for certain.
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:26pm
|
He's pretty savvy and/or
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SirDennisC
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:38pm
|
Everything is different now
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lurtz2010
|
Jan 7 2011, 10:43pm
|
It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:03pm
|
-Pretty close.
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Pipe Dream
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:13pm
|
torn
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carrioncrow
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:21pm
|
for what its worth
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carrioncrow
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:03am
|
This is a charming idea!
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The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:15am
|
I've always wonderd about that.
|
Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:29am
|
Sam inherits Bag End and stays there in the book, but they must have just abandoned that whole idea in the movie
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 12:37am
|
If so,
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Sunflower
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:16am
|
The couldn't have easily changed it for the EE, though.
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:33am
|
It seems like a deliberate change to me
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 8 2011, 11:48am
|
Perhaps film-Frodo liked to live alone
|
Flagg
|
Jan 8 2011, 1:35pm
|
According to what Frodo is writing in the Red Book in those final scenes...
|
The Party Tree
|
Jan 8 2011, 4:11pm
|
I'd forgotten that Sam becoming Mayor
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FarFromHome
|
Jan 8 2011, 8:23pm
|
Sam and his family were
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 1:25am
|
If that's not Sam's own door closing
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:50am
|
You are free to believe what ever you want as am I.
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Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 5:20pm
|
Not so much belief as a matter of perspective --
|
SirDennisC
|
Jan 9 2011, 6:25pm
|
Why, thank you Sir Dennis
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FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:19pm
|
Bag End
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:07pm
|
I think that was in Sauron Defeated
|
Flagg
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:21pm
|
Quite possibly
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:27pm
|
That was The Quest of Erebor
|
Flagg
|
Jan 9 2011, 7:50pm
|
It's in The Return of the King
|
geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:06pm
|
Thanks
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:51pm
|
Thanks geordie
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:26pm
|
My pleasure -
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geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 11:11pm
|
That's the book.
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 8:56pm
|
My apologies, FFH
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:02pm
|
No need...
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:14pm
|
No argument about that.
|
FarFromHome
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:10pm
|
So Frodo will probably end film 1
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lurtz2010
|
Jan 7 2011, 11:45pm
|
I certainly hope not.
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:53am
|
UPDATE
|
Bound
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:19am
|
Now we know who is replacing Bard for the killing of Smaug!
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 8 2011, 10:42am
|
"Star" in the film?
|
Ainu Laire
|
Jan 8 2011, 6:17pm
|
I think and hope
|
dormouse
|
Jan 8 2011, 7:11pm
|
The way it works:
|
SirDennisC
|
Jan 8 2011, 7:54pm
|
dormouse
|
macfalk
|
Jan 8 2011, 8:17pm
|
don't like it
|
Ardamírë
|
Jan 9 2011, 4:27am
|
Well this changes everything
|
Frodosfriend
|
Jan 9 2011, 4:36am
|
Call Guiness World Of Records!
|
Ruijor
|
Jan 9 2011, 5:33am
|
Just to clarify
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:12pm
|
I wanted no more LoTR tie-ins than what was absolutely necessary.
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:28pm
|
Well
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 9:51pm
|
OK, I'm repeating myself, too.....
|
Bran
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:17pm
|
Here's another question
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:30pm
|
I don't know how those things work
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:10am
|
I raised the same question earlier
|
Flagg
|
Jan 10 2011, 3:51pm
|
I suppose the question is........
|
dormouse
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:16pm
|
Maybe nobody knows
|
Junesong
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:40pm
|
Agreed...
|
Bound
|
Jan 10 2011, 4:46pm
|
I think it's safe to assume Bilbo knew about Dol Guldur, etc.
|
Altaira
|
Jan 10 2011, 6:11pm
|
I very much agree with that altaira
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 6:39pm
|
He did, to an extent
|
duats
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:10pm
|
Artistic licence
|
Flagg
|
Jan 11 2011, 10:27pm
|
Gandalf's report
|
Otaku-sempai
|
Jan 12 2011, 11:13pm
|
This could work really well.
|
Bregolas
|
Jan 13 2011, 10:54pm
|
Regarding Balin
|
duats
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:41pm
|
Whilst I don't think it is necessary
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:12am
|
It appears that the only non-essential things that might be included in these two films
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:54pm
|
As I said earlier Kangi
|
Bran
|
Jan 10 2011, 12:13am
|
Just Say Nay!
|
Kangi Ska
|
Jan 9 2011, 10:45pm
|
'Just say Nay'
|
geordie
|
Jan 9 2011, 11:14pm
|
Speculation is not fact
|
shadowdog
|
Jan 10 2011, 1:56am
|
right on
|
Ardamírë
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:20pm
|
As long as the opening is set during "The Hobbit" timeline
|
Pete
|
Jan 10 2011, 5:35am
|
Posted by Jettorex: CNN.com quoting EW on Elijah Wood appearing in The Hobbit...
|
Altaira
|
Jan 10 2011, 10:14pm
|
And add to that....
|
dormouse
|
Jan 10 2011, 11:12pm
|
Questions. Questions???
|
Jettorex
|
Jan 11 2011, 3:18pm
|
WAHOOOO!!!!! :D
|
grammaboodawg
|
Jan 11 2011, 9:53am
|
After a little thought, in the "it's good" camp
|
Tim
|
Jan 11 2011, 2:12pm
|
Skeptical...
|
meltsar
|
Jan 14 2011, 1:06am
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