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"Much have I seen, and much have I done."

N.E. Brigand
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Jun 21 2007, 11:59am

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Discuss The Children of H�rin in the Reading Room, June 11-October 14.

Subject	User	Time
CoH Discussion I. The Childhood of T�rin: 1. Ancestry	squire	Jun 18 2007, 12:05pm
begats be boring	a.s.	Jun 18 2007, 12:21pm
As usual, you Prepared!	Curious	Jun 18 2007, 4:27pm
not a big fan of the opening	Menelwyn	Jun 18 2007, 6:17pm
Or you could have the Gaffer	Curious	Jun 18 2007, 7:38pm
For me, a major flaw	Aunt Dora Baggins	Jun 18 2007, 7:35pm
Seriously, I recently	Curious	Jun 18 2007, 7:48pm
I saw that post and thought it was a great idea.//	Aunt Dora Baggins	Jun 18 2007, 7:52pm
Doesn't LotR give its ending away? //	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 4:22am
All these names and thumbnail sketches	Curious	Jun 18 2007, 11:40pm
H�rin, T�rin, Durin.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 4:32am
The rest of my reply.	Curious	Jun 19 2007, 11:27am
Not quite a throwaway line.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 19 2007, 12:56pm
Childer of Hurin as a saga	Stanislaus B.	Jun 19 2007, 5:17pm
Yes, Beowulf starts out in a similar vein.//	Curious	Jun 19 2007, 7:03pm
But did original listeners of Njal's Saga...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 4:40am
untimely deaths	Wynnie	Jun 19 2007, 12:44pm
Saga style, plus a question	Modtheow	Jun 20 2007, 2:26am
An answer	FarFromHome	Jun 20 2007, 7:01am
What I like about it in LotR	Curious	Jun 20 2007, 12:19pm
I enjoy the archaisms in LotR too	FarFromHome	Jun 20 2007, 2:23pm
CoH suffers for having multiple styles.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 3:17pm
Still not satisfied	Modtheow	Jun 20 2007, 4:07pm
"As for the Bears, they throve and multiplied..."	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:30am
But the first chapter...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 5:02pm
Not so difficult words?	Stanislaus B.	Jun 20 2007, 5:27pm
I don't think it's about comprehension	FarFromHome	Jun 20 2007, 6:01pm
The words aren't difficult.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 6:41pm
Not difficult, by archaic	Stanislaus B.	Jun 20 2007, 6:56pm
"easy and comfortable" vs "engaging"	squire	Jun 20 2007, 7:28pm
Yes, there are two different issues here.	Curious	Jun 22 2007, 2:09pm
"Dwelt" for "lived".	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:45am
Well, Eco is a very interesting writer	FarFromHome	Jun 20 2007, 7:40pm
"written to please himself"?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:59am
I've just been reading through	FarFromHome	Jun 20 2007, 5:50pm
Some more "over-written" authors	Stanislaus B.	Jun 20 2007, 6:09pm
Tom Shippey uses a similar argument.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 6:45pm
Tolkien's style	Stanislaus B.	Jun 20 2007, 4:41pm
Some really good comments at that link!	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 5:26pm
mods up thanks for that blog link	Wynnie	Jun 20 2007, 6:28pm
The Worm Hour-oh-bore-us	a.s.	Jun 20 2007, 8:34pm
Childer of Hurin are a saga	Stanislaus B.	Jun 20 2007, 9:27pm
Why don't people write sagas anymore?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 20 2007, 9:44pm
yes, but the question is	a.s.	Jun 20 2007, 11:04pm
terse and impersonal = saga	Modtheow	Jun 21 2007, 3:03am
There's subject-matter and then there's style	FarFromHome	Jun 21 2007, 9:15am
The flowers of the wild, the Tigers of Detroit.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 21 2007, 5:49pm
Yes, I thought about that	FarFromHome	Jun 21 2007, 8:11pm
Of course we are.	Curious	Jun 21 2007, 8:52pm
You can't write bad...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 21 2007, 8:55pm
But if the style is meant	FarFromHome	Jun 21 2007, 9:21pm
It's worse than dialect.	Curious	Jun 21 2007, 10:17pm
Tolkien liked to hone his writing style by reading it out loud	squire	Jun 21 2007, 10:27pm
At least he never wrote an epic	Curious	Jun 22 2007, 12:12am
"The flowers of the wild" tells/describes a lot more	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 23 2007, 4:27am
It's a dandy line. //	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 4:33am
I find it rather prim, Rose. //	a.s.	Jun 23 2007, 2:31pm
hmmm, well. yes.	a.s.	Jun 21 2007, 11:01am
"Much have I seen, and much have I done."	N.E. Brigand	Jun 21 2007, 11:59am
ah, yes!	Modtheow	Jun 21 2007, 1:23pm
Stilted = artificial	Curious	Jun 21 2007, 7:24pm
natural and authentic	Modtheow	Jun 22 2007, 2:35am
Well, here's how the	Curious	Jun 22 2007, 3:06am
Now that's very interesting to hear	FarFromHome	Jun 22 2007, 8:19am
Tolkien's choices	Modtheow	Jun 25 2007, 12:47am
What does bad saga-style writing look like?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 6:15am
I must disagree with the assumption	Stanislaus B.	Jun 23 2007, 9:58am
The "simplest" language?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:31pm
the easiest, most familiar	Modtheow	Jun 23 2007, 6:07pm
No, I disagree.	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 7:33pm
Elsewhere...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 24 2007, 9:20pm
Robert Graves did a great job	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 9:51pm
Letter #171.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 25 2007, 1:27am
Boy, compared to The Silmarillion	Curious	Jun 25 2007, 11:16am
LotR's narrator...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 25 2007, 2:07pm
It didn't hit me in the face	Curious	Jun 25 2007, 2:22pm
I didn't make that assumption.	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 7:24pm
well....I said I didn't like it, not that it's inferior per se	a.s.	Jun 23 2007, 2:28pm
Same difference. Sort of.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:37pm
do we have a shared subjectivity?	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 23 2007, 8:27pm
nicely said!	Wynnie	Jun 23 2007, 9:42pm
Please do!	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 23 2007, 10:27pm
I would abandon that opening entirely.	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 8:22pm
I get that and	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 25 2007, 5:29pm
And it is overwhelming without real purpose.	Curious	Jun 25 2007, 5:54pm
Do you like other fantasies?	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 8:19pm
I never called	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 25 2007, 7:26pm
Unnecessary.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 25 2007, 7:52pm
hold up!!	a.s.	Jun 25 2007, 9:40pm
LOL !	N.E. Brigand	Jun 25 2007, 9:50pm
Your Majesty!	Modtheow	Jun 26 2007, 12:20am
ROTHFL	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 26 2007, 12:43am
Let me rephrase.	Curious	Jun 26 2007, 2:03am
Proper beginning of discussion	Stanislaus B.	Jun 26 2007, 3:38pm
"consciously selected style and language"	N.E. Brigand	Jun 26 2007, 4:40pm
After all this discussion, though,	Curious	Jun 26 2007, 4:47pm
I'm glad you wrote that about Paradise Lost.	GaladrielTX	Jun 26 2007, 5:35pm
A poor phrase.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 24 2007, 9:32pm
Holy Eru! What are we arguing about, again? :-)	a.s.	Jun 23 2007, 11:51pm
Bows to point. Points to bow.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 24 2007, 12:48am
Sort of like	Modtheow	Jun 23 2007, 5:57pm
Some Tolkienists like to suppose...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 6:05pm
a medievalist strategy	Modtheow	Jun 23 2007, 6:31pm
Fun!	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 6:46pm
The fate of modern literature	Stanislaus B.	Jun 23 2007, 8:06pm
Many factors influence which literature survives and which literature does not.	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 8:14pm
I hate to be a snob, and	Curious	Jun 24 2007, 7:43pm
Thank-you	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 23 2007, 5:42am
Tolkien's linguistic skills	Curious	Jun 23 2007, 1:07pm
"they say"	N.E. Brigand	Jun 24 2007, 5:19am
More good comments by Simon...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 22 2007, 5:29am
Fascinating! and depressing	squire	Jun 22 2007, 10:34am
Few other series are multivolume novels.	Curious	Jun 22 2007, 1:53pm
I see	Wynnie	Jun 22 2007, 12:17pm
...said the blind man	dna	Jun 22 2007, 8:52pm
I was cheap	Wynnie	Jun 22 2007, 10:06pm
and easy	dna	Jun 23 2007, 12:22pm
Stop that!	Wynnie	Jun 23 2007, 2:13pm
sorry, but...	dna	Jun 23 2007, 10:17pm
oh, dear	Wynnie	Jun 23 2007, 10:48pm
my	dna	Jun 24 2007, 3:03pm
"geeky"	Wynnie	Jun 24 2007, 4:24pm
Wynnie is right...	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:56pm
story-tellers of old	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 22 2007, 7:46am
Prose: Tolkien vs. Lawrence, Wolfe, Farrell, Fitzgerald.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 3:52am
laughter & song will be short-lived in this tale	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 22 2007, 7:30am
Morwen and Rian	Morwen	Jun 28 2007, 12:55am
yes, I ageree	Daughter of Nienna	Jun 28 2007, 5:47am
Morwen the war-mongering huntress?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 7:08am
Hador, Morwen, Urwen, Hurin	dna	Jun 23 2007, 1:29pm
How can H�rin be �fiery in mood� and yet have the �fire in him burn steadily�	Stanislaus B.	Jun 23 2007, 2:07pm
Where are Marach, Malach, Magor and Hathol?	N.E. Brigand	Jun 23 2007, 5:48pm
my mistake	dna	Jun 23 2007, 9:32pm
Huor is an easier target for orcish archers.	N.E. Brigand	Jun 24 2007, 9:45pm
late as usual	Saelind	Jun 28 2007, 4:01am

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