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Let me clarify my position

Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 4:26pm


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Pretend I'm a dude living in New Zealand considering a film job. It's nice to know legally where I stand before I make that choice. I can go into the interview, ask what's going to be expected of me and then make my own determination whether or not the job is something I want to take on as either a contractor or an employee. That's all I'm saying. If this leads into a rash of employment where people are being hired as contractors where they weren't being hired as contractors before that would be something worth looking at, but it seems that the "independent contractor" hiring practice in New Zealand for films was the norm anyway. I don't see this law outlawing unions. I don't see it prohibiting citizens getting together and making further changes to the law.

The whole, "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck" doesn't really fly with me. I've worked side-by-side with people doing the exact same job they're doing but I agreed to do it under a different set of employment rules than they did. I thought and still do think it is fair for me to be held to the agreement I made initially regarding my employment. I have a responsibility as well to enter into agreements and mean it when I say I agree to the contract.

I agree that there should be some kind of recourse in case of employment disputes, but going to court should be a last resort. Clear law makes it easier for citizens to see the flaws in the law and address those flaws legislatively or contractually rather than dragging a dispute through the courts.

King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim?

Subject User Time
Parliament Passes Hobbit Bill Elentari03 Send a private message to Elentari03 Oct 29 2010, 12:43am
    I still don't understand duats Send a private message to duats Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
        I don't either Tim Send a private message to Tim Oct 29 2010, 12:50am
            never ending headache? Melkors_Wrath Send a private message to Melkors_Wrath Oct 29 2010, 12:59am
            So the unions push for changes and end up worse in the sense Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 29 2010, 1:43am
                Not sure if this explains it any better, but.... Iolite Send a private message to Iolite Oct 29 2010, 3:26am
        They lose recourse Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Oct 29 2010, 2:03am
            I'm still puzzled Moahunter Send a private message to Moahunter Oct 29 2010, 2:44am
                I don't think this was about industrial action. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Oct 29 2010, 4:38am
                    I love... Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Oct 29 2010, 4:49am
                    Completely agree entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Oct 29 2010, 4:50am
                    You do paint a vivid picture... Earl Send a private message to Earl Oct 29 2010, 6:09am
                    Your speculation sounds pretty solid to me Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover Oct 29 2010, 7:22am
                    I agree with this point Tim Send a private message to Tim Oct 29 2010, 3:23pm
                In reply to Moahunter SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Oct 29 2010, 7:24am
                    Employee or contractor. Moahunter Send a private message to Moahunter Oct 29 2010, 7:35am
                        Nobody tells me where I can't or can't work. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Oct 29 2010, 7:37am
                        Let me clarify my position Tim Send a private message to Tim Oct 29 2010, 4:26pm
                            Well reasoned. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Oct 29 2010, 5:04pm
                        other things to consider Jettorex Send a private message to Jettorex Oct 29 2010, 5:33pm
                            Just to get things straight... Huan71 Send a private message to Huan71 Oct 29 2010, 8:44pm
                            Are contractors more protected than employees, in some ways squire Send a private message to squire Oct 29 2010, 10:27pm
                                My thoughts Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover Oct 30 2010, 1:39pm
            Thanks, Gildor Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Oct 29 2010, 4:40am
                Right... Gandalf'sMother Oct 29 2010, 5:41am
                    I agree Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 29 2010, 6:40am
        maybe not to the "industry" ... AngryDwarf Send a private message to AngryDwarf Oct 29 2010, 7:45am
            Any faith...? Huan71 Send a private message to Huan71 Oct 29 2010, 10:57am
                Actually Gandalf'sMother Oct 29 2010, 3:56pm
    Huzzaaaaah!// Owain Send a private message to Owain Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
    Thats what I call backfiring .... AngryDwarf Send a private message to AngryDwarf Oct 29 2010, 7:31am
    This bill is about stability sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Oct 29 2010, 11:55am
    Rather Uncomfortable Lord Maegmoth Send a private message to Lord Maegmoth Oct 29 2010, 3:10pm

 
 
 

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