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sphdle1
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Oct 29 2010, 11:55am
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In order for these films to remain in NZ, Warner need assurances & security that they won't have labour disputes or legal action during or after the films are made. This new law clarifies it for the courts. And this only applies to movie making. PJ will pay fair wages and treat people well. Does it hurt employees of film industy..? No. What does it do to independent contractors? Basically protects Warner from not getting sued by an independent contractor who decides they want employee status. They are just clarifying what is already practiced, but security against what may have happened back when LOTR was made. I don't see a problem with it. The big picture. One or two people in the unions take a stick and beat the *#&^% out of a hornets nest, causing Warner to prepare to move production. Jackson pleads to keep movies in NZ, but is handcuffed. Union people get stung and back off. Warner demands security and stability in order to remain in NZ, and something more to cover their lost production, plus like any greedy corporation, if you open up an opportunity for them to negotiate more, they will take it. Had the unions not beat the hornets nest, Warner would never have done this. The government negotiates with Warner to stay, but don't completely cave on tax breaks, etc. They clarify the legal definition of independent contractors and employees for the purpose of the film industry so that Warner feel secure and protected from being sued. The films remain in NZ and pump over a billion into their economy. The fans are extremely elated because of all the holdups and hurdles that they've worried through, and finally they can relax on knowing the films will now get made, so that they can get back to what they do best...discuss who is playing what part, how the movie will begin and end, who will voice Smaug, will a particular part in the book story be in the film, who will be the love interest, etc. Lessons learned. Don't beat the hornets nest with a stick. Hopefully the local NZ union will learn from this and next time they will work with the right people in a reasonable manner, with more smarts & less bullying tacts of old school unions, and get what they require by earning respect first. Hopefully they do it themselves and not allow neighboring unions to try to control them. I think if done properly, they can achieve fair and reasonable working conditions and protections for workers, but Simon has put them back a few years. So they will have to pick up and start again to rebuild trust and do it with a keen mind. Lets put this in the past and get on with our normal discussions.
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Parliament Passes Hobbit Bill
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Elentari03
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Oct 29 2010, 12:43am
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I still don't understand
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duats
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Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
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I don't either
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 12:50am
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never ending headache?
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Melkors_Wrath
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Oct 29 2010, 12:59am
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So the unions push for changes and end up worse in the sense
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Eruonen
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Oct 29 2010, 1:43am
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Not sure if this explains it any better, but....
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Iolite
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Oct 29 2010, 3:26am
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They lose recourse
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Gildor
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Oct 29 2010, 2:03am
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I'm still puzzled
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Moahunter
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Oct 29 2010, 2:44am
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I don't think this was about industrial action.
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Silverlode
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Oct 29 2010, 4:38am
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I love...
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Gildor
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Oct 29 2010, 4:49am
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Completely agree
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entmaiden
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Oct 29 2010, 4:50am
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You do paint a vivid picture...
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Earl
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Oct 29 2010, 6:09am
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Your speculation sounds pretty solid to me
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Peredhil lover
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Oct 29 2010, 7:22am
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I agree with this point
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 3:23pm
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In reply to Moahunter
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 7:24am
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Employee or contractor.
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Moahunter
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Oct 29 2010, 7:35am
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Nobody tells me where I can't or can't work. //
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 7:37am
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Let me clarify my position
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 4:26pm
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Well reasoned. //
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 5:04pm
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other things to consider
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Jettorex
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Oct 29 2010, 5:33pm
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Just to get things straight...
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Huan71
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Oct 29 2010, 8:44pm
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Are contractors more protected than employees, in some ways
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squire
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Oct 29 2010, 10:27pm
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My thoughts
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Peredhil lover
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Oct 30 2010, 1:39pm
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Thanks, Gildor
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Altaira
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Oct 29 2010, 4:40am
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Right...
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Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 29 2010, 5:41am
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I agree
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Oct 29 2010, 6:40am
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maybe not to the "industry" ...
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AngryDwarf
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Oct 29 2010, 7:45am
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Any faith...?
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Huan71
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Oct 29 2010, 10:57am
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Actually
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Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 29 2010, 3:56pm
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Huzzaaaaah!//
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Owain
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Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
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Thats what I call backfiring ....
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AngryDwarf
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Oct 29 2010, 7:31am
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This bill is about stability
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sphdle1
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Oct 29 2010, 11:55am
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Rather Uncomfortable
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Lord Maegmoth
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Oct 29 2010, 3:10pm
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