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Gildor
Rivendell
Oct 29 2010, 2:03am
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The concern that the Labour and Green parties had was that the bill would eliminate an avenue of recourse should the contractor feel that they were actually an employee and that they therefore deserve the specific protections and benefits of being an employee (not to say that there aren't a different set of benefits for being a contractor, as so eloquently shared by others on these boards). We've gone round and round on this issue: some on these boards think it's ludicrous to suggest that employees have protections or benefits that make it preferred over contractor status, therefore making the opposition sound irrelevant; while others on these boards think that this avenue of recourse is a valuable way for a worker to seek redress if they are wronged. Some facts regardless of personal opinion: 1. The bill makes the law less ambiguous: if you're a contractor your a contractor darn it, and if you're an employee you're an employee. 2. The bill does this by disabling people that sign contracts as contractors to later use litigation to claim employee status. -This was that the Employment Relations Act would be amended to make sure a worker engaged on an independent contract will not be able to go to court and claim employee rights and conditions. (TORN main page)
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Parliament Passes Hobbit Bill
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Elentari03
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Oct 29 2010, 12:43am
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I still don't understand
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duats
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Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
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I don't either
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 12:50am
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never ending headache?
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Melkors_Wrath
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Oct 29 2010, 12:59am
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So the unions push for changes and end up worse in the sense
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Eruonen
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Oct 29 2010, 1:43am
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Not sure if this explains it any better, but....
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Iolite
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Oct 29 2010, 3:26am
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They lose recourse
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Gildor
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Oct 29 2010, 2:03am
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I'm still puzzled
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Moahunter
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Oct 29 2010, 2:44am
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I don't think this was about industrial action.
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Silverlode
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Oct 29 2010, 4:38am
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I love...
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Gildor
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Oct 29 2010, 4:49am
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Completely agree
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entmaiden
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Oct 29 2010, 4:50am
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You do paint a vivid picture...
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Earl
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Oct 29 2010, 6:09am
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Your speculation sounds pretty solid to me
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Peredhil lover
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Oct 29 2010, 7:22am
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I agree with this point
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 3:23pm
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In reply to Moahunter
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 7:24am
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Employee or contractor.
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Moahunter
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Oct 29 2010, 7:35am
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Nobody tells me where I can't or can't work. //
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 7:37am
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Let me clarify my position
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Tim
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Oct 29 2010, 4:26pm
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Well reasoned. //
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SirDennisC
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Oct 29 2010, 5:04pm
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other things to consider
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Jettorex
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Oct 29 2010, 5:33pm
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Just to get things straight...
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Huan71
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Oct 29 2010, 8:44pm
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Are contractors more protected than employees, in some ways
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squire
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Oct 29 2010, 10:27pm
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My thoughts
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Peredhil lover
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Oct 30 2010, 1:39pm
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Thanks, Gildor
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Altaira
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Oct 29 2010, 4:40am
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Right...
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Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 29 2010, 5:41am
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I agree
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Oct 29 2010, 6:40am
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maybe not to the "industry" ...
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AngryDwarf
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Oct 29 2010, 7:45am
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Any faith...?
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Huan71
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Oct 29 2010, 10:57am
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Actually
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Gandalf'sMother
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Oct 29 2010, 3:56pm
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Huzzaaaaah!//
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Owain
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Oct 29 2010, 12:45am
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Thats what I call backfiring ....
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AngryDwarf
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Oct 29 2010, 7:31am
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This bill is about stability
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sphdle1
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Oct 29 2010, 11:55am
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Rather Uncomfortable
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Lord Maegmoth
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Oct 29 2010, 3:10pm
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