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Pioneer
Rivendell
Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
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I apologize if someone else has already posted this helicopter footage of Hobbiton as it looks today. http://www.3news.co.nz/Heli-flyover-of-new-Hobbit-set-/tabid/315/articleID/178811/Default.aspx
Nick Frost for Bombur
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User
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Time
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From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit"
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macfalk
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Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm
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My amatuer opinion is
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Tim
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Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
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hear, hear
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bowencm
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Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
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" "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers"
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
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It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts
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Altaira
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Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
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More info/links in here, too...
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Altaira
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Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
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I've got the rest of this story
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
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More hurdles ahead?
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Elven
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Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
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Peter directing?
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
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Well if New Zealand caves to unions
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
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Sorry Kristin ...
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Elven
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Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
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Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
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Thanks Kristin
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Elven
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Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
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Does anyone else just want to scream at this point?
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dormouse
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Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
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Like crawling over broken glass
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Eruonen
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Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
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Jeez
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duats
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Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
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Is this some kind of a joke???
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
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Oh the humanity!!!
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Captain Salt
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Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
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The whole point ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
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Well said. /
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SirDennisC
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Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
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Yes
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squire
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Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
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Absolutely.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
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Also well said
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SirDennisC
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Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
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thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) //
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Magpie
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Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
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union
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merlwynd
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Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
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well said
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merlwynd
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Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
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The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
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Thank you Squire
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Gildor
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Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
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Aw c'mon now
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
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I don't know him personally
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Gildor
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Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
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Just to clarify ...
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
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Jumped
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
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As Im aware ...
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
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Dunce hat
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
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PJ claims he's paying fairly
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
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I understand that
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
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Sorry, have I missed something...
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dormouse
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Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
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Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
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As a Union Worker
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
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Heh heh like I said it's not simple
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
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Nothing is perfect:
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
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Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman"
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entmaiden
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Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
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Thanks for your review entmaiden
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
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I saw it at a film festival in the US, but
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entmaiden
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Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
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And aside on the aside: NBC News
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
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Labor pains?!
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Sunflower
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Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
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who do they mean by "producers"
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Glaurung63
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Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
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the more I think about this...
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dormouse
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Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
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Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
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Power corrupts, even unions
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
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The leaders ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
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Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so.
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macfalk
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Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
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Sorry, but this is irrelevant ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
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But, if that were true
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Altaira
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Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
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Independent contractor ...
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Elven
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Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
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You go!
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Altaira
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Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
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Hats off to you too...
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
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I'm always
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
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sneaky suspicions ...
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
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So you say
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Gildor
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Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
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Humans are fallible
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
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So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. /
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SirDennisC
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Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
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Yes indeed ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
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Peter's response to the unions' demands
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
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It seems this is the key paragraph:
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Ataahua
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Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
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From a quick bit of Googling
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Ataahua
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Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
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Yikes!
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
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PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
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People who work for PJ are very loyal
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Kristin Thompson
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Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
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Good on PJ then
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
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I have to wonder
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Altaira
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Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
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Not quite.
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Ataahua
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Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
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Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence
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Altaira
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Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
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As dormouse said above
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SirDennisC
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Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
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It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim
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Kirly
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Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
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Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-)
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Tim
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Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
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unions
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Kirly
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Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
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I agree with Tim as well
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dormouse
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Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
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I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft)
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Kirly
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Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
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Oh boy.
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Ainu Laire
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Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
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RE: PJ's response
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Pete
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Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
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McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film?
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Silmaril
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Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
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I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. /
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Ataahua
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Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
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If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say...
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DarthNeeson
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Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
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Some times it takes a lot of patience
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
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Amarth faeg! :S
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Ruijor
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Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
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A move would require another long delay
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Eruonen
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Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
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Europe
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MouthofSauron
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Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
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To Unionise or not to Unionise ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
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MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union....
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
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Can this be...
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Sunflower
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Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
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I've been wondering that too....
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
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PS....
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
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Hobbiton flyover.
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Pioneer
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Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
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Oh that is awesome!
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Earl
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Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
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Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. //
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
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Thanks for posting
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
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To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose?
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
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I also sent an email...
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
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Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union.
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
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I agree....
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Gorgori
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Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
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A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-)
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
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I think it would be better if...
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
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That's a good idea too
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
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Oh, just send the money to me
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geordie
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Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
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Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
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Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep"
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
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Welcome, Gorgori!
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Patty
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Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
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Skips over all the political wrangling
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Garfeimao
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Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
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I thought it looked behind schedule.
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
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I got the same feeling...
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Earl
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Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
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Four months is a long time
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squire
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Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
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I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras?
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
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Unions are good,
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Galadriel's ring
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Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
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What makes me REALLY angry about this...
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Iolite
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Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
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Thanks for chiming in Iolite.
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Ataahua
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Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
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Yes, an informative post though I find it odd
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SirDennisC
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Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
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Well said, Sir Dennis ...
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Hellmistress
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Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
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We do have contracts and laws to enforce them...
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Iolite
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Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
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Nicely articulated, Iolite
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Altaira
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Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
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Implying/Non-binding
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SirDennisC
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Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
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Recommended guidelines only...
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Iolite
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Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
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Fascinating
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
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Europe? Whoo-hoo!
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geordie
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Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
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unions
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merlwynd
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Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
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Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!?
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sphdle1
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Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
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Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety
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sphdle1
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Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
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All is resumed to this...
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Dreamaster
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Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
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Eastern Europe?
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macfalk
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Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
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Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) //
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
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Amen.
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Sunflower
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Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
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Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ...
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Elven
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Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
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What do you think - do I understand this right?
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
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Yes
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
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I'm glad performers are being protected.
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
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Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
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What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand
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FangornFriend
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Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
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Can't happen?
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
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This doesn't seem about wages
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
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I did
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
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Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)"
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
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Sorry, Lark
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dormouse
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Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
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Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
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ugh
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
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Saying he can't negotiate with the unions
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
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Thank-you
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Altaira
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Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
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I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
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Yes
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
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Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-)
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
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My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan
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Eruonen
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Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
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I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing".
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
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Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
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A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
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Sounds reasonable to me
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Gildor
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Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
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Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
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Sounds reasonable to me...
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Gildor
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Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
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Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
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You keep rehashing stuff
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Gildor
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Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
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Then I guess I need to repeat
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
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You have and are understood!
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Gildor
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Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
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Yes
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
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Given that any employment law change
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Ataahua
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Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
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I totally agree.
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Lark
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Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
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There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand,
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Theodred
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Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
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The reel world
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squire
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Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
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True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment.
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
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Everybody's mileage may differ
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squire
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Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
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It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
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Read Ataahua's posts
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Altaira
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Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
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In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test
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entmaiden
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Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
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Oh I don't doubt squire's right
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
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NZ vs US Law
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entmaiden
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Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
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Karl Urban backs the union's stance
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Ataahua
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Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
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Any particulars on this?
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
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See inside
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Altaira
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Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
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Thank you thank you Altaira
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
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One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case.
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entmaiden
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Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
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Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise.
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
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A model maker is not an actor
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squire
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Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
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I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste!
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
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Totally different
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Elladan
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Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
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That's cool
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Tim
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Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
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Hmm computer error I guess
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Elladan
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Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
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With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops
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squire
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Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
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Good points squire
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
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True.
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Elladan
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Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
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** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
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I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. //
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
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Cool with me.
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Pioneer
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Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
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Big scary stuff to panic the herd.//
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
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Yahoo news has put it on their homepage...
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weaver
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Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
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Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies?
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
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"two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"?
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squire
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Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
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I dearly wish I could comment on the article
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
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My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!!
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
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Nah...
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
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Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
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And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. /
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Ataahua
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Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
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All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. /
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
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I think they both know
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grammaboodawg
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Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
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wow!!!
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merlwynd
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Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
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Let me duck out by saying...
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Lark
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Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
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Not at all
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
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Sorted out? Sorted out?
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macfalk
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Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
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Offical response from the Studio
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Bound
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Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
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puhhh... this is a serious conflict!!
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Silmaril
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Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
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SAG's Global Rule One
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
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I don't see them expelling
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
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That's irrelevant in this case
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
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It seems ironic, really....
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dormouse
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Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
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Indeed
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
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Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance
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Eruonen
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Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
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I agree ... Let's hope
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sphdle1
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Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
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Any news of a New Zealand Government response?
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
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especially since
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sphdle1
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Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
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Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now...
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sphdle1
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Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
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Studios answer ti big scary stuff.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
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Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
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There's a time and a place
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sphdle1
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Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
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And yet
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
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A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence
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Eruonen
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Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
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That doesn't make it right
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
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Indeed.
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Eruonen
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Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
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An army must move from water to water
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SirDennisC
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Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
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Everything you say makes sense
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sphdle1
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Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
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We should remember
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squire
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Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
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Well said
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
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I think you misunderstood
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sphdle1
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Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
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Remember...
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Sunflower
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Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
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I live in Canada
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sphdle1
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Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
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Whether it sits right or not facts are facts
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
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A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa!
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
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Just a thought...
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cameragod
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Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
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Yes I agree
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
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I'm not talking about the little guy
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sphdle1
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Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
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The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? //
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Compa_Mighty
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Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
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One word...
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
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*writes..
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
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Tolkien cioned the word
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
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Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) //
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
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OK...my mind was not moving in that direction
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
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eucatastrophe
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Mooseboy018
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Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
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The ride has made me a bit queezy
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
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(EU) catastrophe indeed.
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macfalk
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Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
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*Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers''
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Rogash
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Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
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It means we're right back where we started from
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
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NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
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And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
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To make matters more interesting
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
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That must be why
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Altaira
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Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
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Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
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I believe...
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Ruijor
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Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
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They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union)
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
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MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand
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Eruonen
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Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
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Killing the Golden Goose
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Eruonen
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Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
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Technically, there are no producers.
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entmaiden
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Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
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I agree this is an extremely weird situation
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
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meeting or not?
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Silmaril
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Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
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A strong suggestion:
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
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*Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes*
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Tim
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Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
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Yeah, sure...
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Sunflower
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Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
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Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
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A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
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Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle...
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Cad Monkey
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Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
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The clearest information I have seen.//
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
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Highly informative and very reasonable.
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Ataahua
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Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
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What I found curious
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
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One of the two is wrong
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
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Your second quote is correct
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
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Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
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I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
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Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
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I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
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I'm no lawyer but
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Envinyatar
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Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
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OK I surrender!//
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
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You are correct; my apologies
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
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Yes, you're right.
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Kimi
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Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
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This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess)
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
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Yes
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
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Both are true - no, really :-)
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Kimi
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Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
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Great find
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
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Good Scoop
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CINE
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Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
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If tax incentives are the carrot
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
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The writer seems to suggest
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sphdle1
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Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
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I may have mistook Campbell's meaning -
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
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Dead end
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durfalas
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Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
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My ultimate frustration with this
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duats
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Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
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Also
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duats
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Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
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I would assume NZ has free speech
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
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I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S.
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
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Possibly.
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Ataahua
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Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
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Let us hope this evil genie does not surface!
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
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Perhaps, but
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Silverlode
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Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
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Agree with many of your points
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SirDennisC
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Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
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Not completely out of production's hands
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Gildor
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Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
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Actually that process has already started
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
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Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved...
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Cad Monkey
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Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
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And the New Zealand government
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
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Since NZ politician know what is at stake...
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
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Let us hope...
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
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I predict you're right
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
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Not all politicians...
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dormouse
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Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
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Ah yes....goodwill
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Eruonen
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Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
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Not to be too cruel
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squire
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Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
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I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.//
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
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Hoot hoot! //
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
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Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-)
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
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Drat those
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SirDennisC
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Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
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Don't fall over dead from shock
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
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I have problems with really big unions
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
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Good and evil?
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squire
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Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
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Good and evil are real as is New Zealand
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
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To paraphrase Aragorn
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
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Right, thank you for that
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squire
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Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
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The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world)
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
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I knew you were going to ask that :-)
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
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When the dog finishes eating the dog
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
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Absolutely, that is my point
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Eruonen
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Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
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Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse
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Tim
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Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
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Here is the relevant NZ law....
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Iolite
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Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
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Thanks Iolite!
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
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This must really throw
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SirDennisC
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Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
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Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins.
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macfalk
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Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
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My guess
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Zizix
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Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
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Alright you thread-hijackers ;-)
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
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SAG will lay back until the smoke clears.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
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Correction: SPADA not SNAGA
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
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Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA
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Tim
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Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
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It was Freudian slip.
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
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MEAA
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Pipe Dream
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Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
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