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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven
Sep 17 2010, 1:51am
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This writer disputes O'Donnell's claim that there were no good articles on Tolkien's women, even at the time she wrote her essay.
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LotRs & Feminism
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Malveth The Eternal
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Sep 9 2010, 3:19am
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Femine Tolkien Studies
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squire
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Sep 9 2010, 4:00am
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Doctrinaire, fomulaic analysis is always unsatisfying
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Elizabeth
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Sep 9 2010, 4:51am
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Relevancy of criticism
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CuriousG
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Sep 9 2010, 12:40pm
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For me, one of the most interesting feminist insights
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Curious
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Sep 9 2010, 12:41pm
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My thoughts exactly.
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TolkienOtaku
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Sep 9 2010, 12:49pm
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When I read "the Mariner's Wife" I was amazed
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Sep 9 2010, 1:45pm
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The Mariner's Wife: a Gem
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tumhalad
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Sep 9 2010, 2:13pm
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Response...
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Malveth The Eternal
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Sep 9 2010, 2:17pm
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Eowyn was my hero(ine)! It was such a relief to me
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 9 2010, 3:29pm
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This is rather completely off topic, but
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Sep 9 2010, 4:42pm
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Yes, I think that happens when there are groups of each.
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 9 2010, 4:50pm
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Boys and girls
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CuriousG
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Sep 10 2010, 4:23pm
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Politically Correct Revisionism?
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Desicon9
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Sep 9 2010, 4:37pm
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Now who's throwing up straw men?
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Tim
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Sep 9 2010, 5:04pm
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LOL! The Pot Accuses The Kettle!
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Desicon9
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Sep 9 2010, 6:58pm
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You put words in my mouth
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Tim
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Sep 9 2010, 11:28pm
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To spell it out plainly.
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Tim
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Sep 9 2010, 11:31pm
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Extreme feminism
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CuriousG
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Sep 10 2010, 4:40pm
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Thank you!
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Elizabeth
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Sep 9 2010, 7:46pm
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Non-divisive attempt, I swear!
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Desicon9
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Sep 9 2010, 11:45pm
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I'm Feeling Like The Scarecrow Here
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Malveth The Eternal
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Sep 10 2010, 2:04pm
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That awful "scarecrow" feeling...
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Desicon9
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Sep 15 2010, 3:48pm
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This has me curious
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Tim
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Sep 15 2010, 3:57pm
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In a historical context...
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Morthoron
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Sep 10 2010, 4:19am
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Gender, Sexuality and Feminist Readings of Tolkien - in the JRRT Encyclopedia RR discussion
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squire
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Sep 12 2010, 4:01am
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Nice
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Malveth The Eternal
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Sep 12 2010, 9:20pm
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Tolkien: The Feminist Critique
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Desicon9
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Sep 13 2010, 11:02am
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Do you own a copy of "Women Among the Inklings"?
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 13 2010, 3:35pm
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Any idea why that is?
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 13 2010, 6:16pm
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Hot topic?
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 13 2010, 6:45pm
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Seems like a good reason to keep the book in print!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 13 2010, 6:57pm
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I forgot that you were there too.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 13 2010, 7:25pm
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Owing a 1000 dollar book...
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Desicon9
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Sep 15 2010, 3:14pm
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I'm a little scared
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squire
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Sep 13 2010, 8:33pm
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I don't ever remember the word "essentialism"
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Curious
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Sep 14 2010, 7:28pm
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'Essentialist'
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Penthe
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Sep 26 2010, 2:02am
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"Women Among the Inklings" source material.
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Desicon9
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Sep 15 2010, 2:49pm
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mis-quoted, dang it, past the editing time!
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Desicon9
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Sep 15 2010, 3:05pm
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Wouldn't Tolkien prefer
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Curious
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Sep 15 2010, 3:39pm
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Self-professed is always best...
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Desicon9
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Sep 15 2010, 4:52pm
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Based on my Googling,
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Curious
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Sep 15 2010, 5:30pm
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Also, Tolkien often contradicted
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Curious
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Sep 15 2010, 7:35pm
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Could you please make this a main topic, Curious?
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CuriousG
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Sep 16 2010, 11:04pm
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Too late, I'm afraid.
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Curious
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Sep 17 2010, 12:02am
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It's a challenging thesis
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squire
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Sep 16 2010, 11:28pm
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I agree it's a challenge, but I'm still sold
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CuriousG
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Sep 17 2010, 1:08am
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I don't mean to replace one generalization with another.
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Curious
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Sep 17 2010, 11:09am
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Interestingly........
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 16 2010, 2:09am
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That's an interesting assessment
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Tim
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Sep 16 2010, 2:24am
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Influences
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 16 2010, 2:21pm
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Tolkien and the Feminists: Some Sources
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Desicon9
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Sep 20 2010, 4:13pm
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Sources 2
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Desicon9
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Sep 20 2010, 4:18pm
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Tolkien and the Feminists; Sources 3
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Desicon9
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Sep 20 2010, 5:25pm
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I couldn't resist posting this here
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 16 2010, 4:20pm
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Good point in the article
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Tim
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Sep 16 2010, 4:41pm
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Women among the Inklings available for less than the cost of the Shire and everything in it?
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Gar-heard
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Sep 16 2010, 8:10pm
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Respectfully
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Tim
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Sep 16 2010, 8:19pm
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That sentence sums it up
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 16 2010, 10:03pm
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I'm a bit of a split mind on this
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Tim
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Sep 16 2010, 10:46pm
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I admit it...
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 17 2010, 5:31am
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What TV is
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Tim
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Sep 17 2010, 2:50pm
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It was on Inside Edition.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 17 2010, 6:29pm
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Grabs a piece of paper
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Tim
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Sep 17 2010, 11:32pm
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The article would be much improved if...
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squire
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Sep 16 2010, 10:20pm
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She could have come here...
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Elizabeth
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Sep 17 2010, 2:48am
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This yin and yang interpretation is what annoyed me
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 19 2010, 6:05pm
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I don't think she is referring to Arwen's rescue of Frodo
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 19 2010, 9:24pm
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That may be true
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 19 2010, 9:56pm
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She does talk briefly about Galadriel
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 19 2010, 10:20pm
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"A stereotypical warrior princess"
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Elizabeth
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Sep 20 2010, 1:29am
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As usual
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 20 2010, 3:32am
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You can look at it differently
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sador
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Sep 20 2010, 9:18am
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Well
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 20 2010, 6:20pm
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Elrond, sauciness, Arwen
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CuriousG
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Sep 20 2010, 10:03pm
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The saucy lines I mentioned for Elrond were from the book
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Arwen Skywalker
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Sep 21 2010, 1:28am
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What is realistic fo a beaing that is thousands of years old?
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Kangi Ska
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Sep 21 2010, 1:53am
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Nice, timely find.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 17 2010, 1:51am
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That is harsh
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squire
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Sep 17 2010, 2:22am
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I find it more than a little disturbing
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 17 2010, 2:54pm
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Indeed
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Tim
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Sep 17 2010, 3:11pm
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Why would calimac be embarrassed
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sador
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Sep 19 2010, 12:36pm
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Per a subsequent clarification:
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 19 2010, 2:52pm
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Although I owe a lot to Calmac
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 19 2010, 3:30pm
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There's also video.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 17 2010, 8:11pm
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Women +1
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Eregian
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Sep 18 2010, 9:38pm
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Gar!
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Malveth The Eternal
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Sep 19 2010, 12:10am
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Revisionist hogwash...
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Morthoron
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Sep 19 2010, 12:43pm
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Um...
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squire
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Sep 19 2010, 4:03pm
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Well said all around
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 19 2010, 4:11pm
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I appreciate thie very much,
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Ethel Duath
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Sep 19 2010, 4:54pm
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Well...
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Morthoron
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Sep 19 2010, 5:00pm
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'Reputable' may be relative
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squire
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Sep 19 2010, 7:40pm
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Forgive me...
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Morthoron
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Sep 19 2010, 8:18pm
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A misunderstanding.
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 19 2010, 8:33pm
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Are Tolkien fans nuts? the NY Times asks.
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squire
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Sep 19 2010, 4:45pm
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Even the NYT can't spell "Middle-earth" correctly. //
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 19 2010, 8:29pm
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How do you define "correctly"?
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FarFromHome
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Sep 26 2010, 10:57am
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"Correctly" when referring to Tolkien's sub-creation
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squire
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Sep 26 2010, 5:17pm
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Well of course
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FarFromHome
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Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
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Was the headline changed?
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N.E. Brigand
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Sep 19 2010, 9:56pm
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No, no
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squire
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Sep 19 2010, 10:26pm
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I didn't really get that from the column
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Sep 20 2010, 1:02am
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Columnists don't
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Curious
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Sep 20 2010, 1:47am
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