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It's a function of who's translating.

Elizabeth
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Sep 3 2010, 12:52am


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I never noticed that before, but it's unmistakeable. I don't think Theoden or Denethor would talk like that.

But maybe that's a function of talking mind to mind.

No wonder it comes out in Hobbitese.






Elizabeth is the TORnsib formerly known as 'erather'

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Book I, Chapter 11, “A Knife in the Dark”: Are Black Riders Wimps? Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 2:02am
    My own thoughts Lord of Magic Send a private message to Lord of Magic Aug 23 2010, 2:20pm
        Good point about Bombadil talking to ponies! Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 4:03pm
        Let me know if you find Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 4:17pm
    Horn calls, commerce, and Wimpy Black Riders Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Aug 23 2010, 2:51pm
        Thanks for acknowledging Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 4:14pm
            Unanswerable Questions Jerene Send a private message to Jerene Aug 23 2010, 9:26pm
        Not 3.6, but 6 pennies sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 2:28pm
    Great summary and analysis, Curious FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2010, 5:27pm
        Okay, here's a closer analysis of the timing in Buckland. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 6:13pm
            Nazgul as cowards Arwen Skywalker Send a private message to Arwen Skywalker Aug 23 2010, 7:27pm
                There is an element of ghosts afraid of the light. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 8:32pm
                    Gandalf and the High Elves FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2010, 10:40pm
                        Taking the ring from Frodo CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 11:56am
                            It wouldn't take long Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 12:07pm
                Nazgul and fear of fire CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 12:17pm
                    I can explain Minas Tirith. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 12:43pm
                        I'm guessing element of surprise xy Aug 24 2010, 3:31pm
                            Good point about the Riders being tired, Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 4:33pm
                                On the other hand; and, Bombadil and the Siege of Imladris CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 5:06pm
                                    Old Man Willow and the Barrow-wights Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 5:27pm
                                        Bombadil and the war... Evernight Send a private message to Evernight Aug 24 2010, 6:25pm
                                            Could be. Interesting. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 7:00pm
                                            Excellent point CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 7:28pm
                                Another point xy Aug 24 2010, 6:39pm
                                    It's also tricky Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 7:06pm
                                        It's frustrating Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 7:23pm
                                            At the very least CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 7:34pm
                                                And maybe Tolkien Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 7:55pm
                                            I think there are hints FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 25 2010, 10:35am
                                                The definitive essay! CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 25 2010, 2:13pm
                                                    That's not what bothers me sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 2:26pm
                                                        Wasn't there a prophecy? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 26 2010, 11:37am
                                                            Who issued this prophesy? Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 27 2010, 7:18am
                                                                Good question. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 27 2010, 8:21am
                                                    The Riders seemed to open Fatty's gate Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 4:32pm
                                                    Thanks, CuriousG! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 26 2010, 11:58am
                                                        A wooden shield Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 26 2010, 2:58pm
                                                The narrator does exactly what you suggest Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 3:37pm
                                        well xy Aug 26 2010, 5:41pm
            Timelines FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2010, 10:18pm
                I agree about the horn Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 11:26pm
                    Maybe you're right FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2010, 9:04am
        Oh, how to explain those Nazgul CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 23 2010, 7:54pm
            It's also revealing Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 10:14pm
    Who were the culprits in the attack in the inn? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 23 2010, 7:30pm
        Here's what Strider said: Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2010, 8:25pm
            Nazgul or Ferny CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 12:05pm
                There's also the question Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 12:38pm
                    Good point CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 12:48pm
                    However, that very night sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 2:51pm
                        Good point. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 4:49pm
            Not Bakshi. sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 2:47pm
                Your second link doesn't work. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 4:47pm
                    Does this one? sador Send a private message to sador Aug 27 2010, 11:52am
                        If your point is that we can't be sure, Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 12:34pm
                        Bolsters and other thoughts Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 27 2010, 10:08pm
    Comments on the Summary sador Send a private message to sador Aug 24 2010, 9:41am
    Frodo: the exceptional hobbit and hero CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 24 2010, 12:40pm
        Frodo is an exceptional hobbit. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2010, 1:11pm
    Comments on your Analysis sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 10:53am
        A thought about "Peregrin." Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 4:21pm
    Comments on your Analysis - part II sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 2:15pm
        There are hints Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 4:43pm
            Did the Riders know that Frodo would take off the Ring? sador Send a private message to sador Aug 25 2010, 7:15pm
                Not nonexistent. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 8:10pm
    "...with timbers burst and lock broken" squire Send a private message to squire Aug 25 2010, 6:00pm
        Great point about the Nazgul as police. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 25 2010, 8:01pm
            Inside information FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 25 2010, 9:57pm
        There's no fist... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 25 2010, 9:35pm
            Right, no fist mentioned, but how far can you take that? squire Send a private message to squire Aug 25 2010, 9:43pm
                Well, I did wonder about the horse... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 25 2010, 10:00pm
    Response the money question Hyarmendacil Send a private message to Hyarmendacil Aug 27 2010, 12:54am
        So you think there was money Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 2:26am
            Money Hyarmendacil Send a private message to Hyarmendacil Aug 27 2010, 3:03am
                It's still a choice Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 12:39pm
                    "Fact"? squire Send a private message to squire Aug 27 2010, 2:49pm
                        I'm sorry, the Shire and Bree are not feudal. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 3:17pm
                            Stick to your guns! squire Send a private message to squire Aug 27 2010, 10:24pm
                                Dirty pool! Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 11:07pm
                            Agreeing with Curious... Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 27 2010, 11:55pm
                                Disagreeing with Curious ... Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 28 2010, 12:17am
                                    If nuttin' can be known, what are we talking fer? LOL! Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 28 2010, 2:08am
                                        Arguably, Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 28 2010, 3:10am
                                            The Muster of Rohan Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 28 2010, 3:33am
                                                They didn't spend three days on it Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 28 2010, 4:04am
                                        The Shire and Breeland were not Feudal Hyarmendacil Send a private message to Hyarmendacil Aug 29 2010, 9:22pm
                                More on Middle Earth economics Hyarmendacil Send a private message to Hyarmendacil Aug 29 2010, 8:52pm
                                    "Don't go there." Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 29 2010, 10:24pm
                                    How One Thing Leads to Another... Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 30 2010, 1:54pm
                                        Dangerous indeed sador Send a private message to sador Aug 30 2010, 3:01pm
                                            Curious gender... Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 30 2010, 5:35pm
                                                No problem. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 30 2010, 11:47pm
                                        If I may suggest a roadmap squire Send a private message to squire Aug 30 2010, 3:35pm
                                            Precising definitions; and valid "speculations." Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 30 2010, 7:28pm
                                            Hmmmm Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 30 2010, 8:28pm
                                            I wonder if Mordor and its slave colonies Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 30 2010, 11:45pm
                                                The Aztecs were a stretch squire Send a private message to squire Aug 31 2010, 12:45am
                                                    I feel quite sure Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 31 2010, 1:27am
                                                    Points of view FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 2 2010, 9:22am
                                                        Now there's a bit of fan fiction for you. Curious Send a private message to Curious Sep 2 2010, 12:19pm
                                                            Only Sam FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 2 2010, 1:28pm
                                                                Wait... squire Send a private message to squire Sep 2 2010, 2:08pm
                                                                    It can be depended on FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 2 2010, 2:43pm
                                                                I think maybe Squire is concerned with fan fic history revisionism Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 2 2010, 2:58pm
                                                        Texts giving Mordor's side of the question squire Send a private message to squire Sep 2 2010, 2:03pm
                                                            And Sauron speaking to Pippin in the Palantir CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Sep 2 2010, 4:23pm
                                                                Yes, for what it's worth. squire Send a private message to squire Sep 2 2010, 5:05pm
                                                                    Sauron's diction vs. his boss's; who is more menacing? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Sep 3 2010, 12:15am
                                                                        Sauron speaks like a hobbit! Curious Send a private message to Curious Sep 3 2010, 12:26am
                                                                            It's a function of who's translating. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Sep 3 2010, 12:52am
                                                                            Sauron is the only bad guy who speaks Hobbit CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Sep 4 2010, 9:34pm
                                                                                The difference may be... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Sep 4 2010, 9:40pm
                                                            Yes well FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 2 2010, 5:43pm
                                                                I think you've hit on it Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 2 2010, 5:59pm
                                                                The Ring Spell is Sauron's composition squire Send a private message to squire Sep 2 2010, 6:39pm
                                                                    I know! ;-) FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 2 2010, 8:49pm
                                                                        It's possible, I guess squire Send a private message to squire Sep 2 2010, 11:35pm
                                                                            Ha! And you say you don't like fan fiction! Curious Send a private message to Curious Sep 2 2010, 11:52pm
                                                                            I am Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 3 2010, 12:44am
                                                                            That's it! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Sep 3 2010, 9:05am
                                                                Celebrimbor heard those lines, didn't he? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Sep 2 2010, 7:24pm
                                                            In 'Mount Doom' sador Send a private message to sador Sep 2 2010, 7:43pm
                                        Did Tolkien ever think LOTR economics could be recovered? Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Aug 31 2010, 1:38am
                                            Tolkien talks quite a bit about economics in The Hobbit. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 31 2010, 4:19am
                                                Weak feudalism; more on money; Shire princes CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Aug 31 2010, 1:34pm
                                    That's a great insight! Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 30 2010, 9:58pm
                    Cultures in The Hobbit Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 27 2010, 11:24pm
                        It's not a matter of inconsistency. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2010, 11:56pm

 
 
 

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