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why was Faramir not tempted by the Ring?
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TheNazgul
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Jul 12 2010, 5:11am
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Faramir was more aware of the dangers of absolute power
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elostirion74
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Jul 12 2010, 6:52am
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What makes you so sure
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FarFromHome
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Jul 12 2010, 9:07am
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I disagree.
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 12:14pm
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Disagreeing with disagreement :)
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CuriousG
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Jul 12 2010, 12:37pm
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I would say
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 3:28pm
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The Nine Kings were not necessarily "corrupt" in the beginning
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squire
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Jul 12 2010, 4:56pm
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As ringbearers,
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 5:11pm
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Elrond's weakness is revealed
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FarFromHome
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Jul 20 2010, 1:03pm
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Excellent point
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CuriousG
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Jul 20 2010, 1:23pm
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Completing the set
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squire
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Jul 20 2010, 4:19pm
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The Ring starts with the good natures, then leads to evil
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CuriousG
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Jul 13 2010, 1:44pm
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Sam was wearing the Ring
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 3:10pm
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"So no, the Ring didn't corrupt Boromir."
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squire
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Jul 13 2010, 3:24pm
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I was simply repeating
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 3:32pm
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I do agree with this distinction
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CuriousG
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Jul 13 2010, 3:55pm
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It's possible
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 4:16pm
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Saruman and Denethor were never close to the Ring
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 13 2010, 5:52pm
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That's a good point.
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 7:16pm
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background
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Arwen Skywalker
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Jul 13 2010, 8:00pm
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It is precisely because
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 8:15pm
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So simple
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squire
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Jul 13 2010, 6:38pm
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I'm dubious too!
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 7:31pm
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Yes, desire for the Ring
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 11:21am
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Sam was not wearing the Ring
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dernwyn
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Jul 15 2010, 2:30am
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Okay, but Sam was
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Curious
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Jul 15 2010, 3:25am
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Bearing vs. wearing
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dernwyn
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Jul 15 2010, 11:34am
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Wearing is different anyway
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FarFromHome
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Jul 15 2010, 12:33pm
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Do you mean,
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dernwyn
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Jul 15 2010, 4:13pm
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mmmmm
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Curious
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Jul 15 2010, 5:56pm
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Good point.//
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Curious
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Jul 15 2010, 1:50pm
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Clear as...
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FarFromHome
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Jul 15 2010, 9:23am
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I love your Ring/donut comparison!
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dernwyn
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Jul 15 2010, 10:36am
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Faramir's reaction
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elostirion74
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Jul 12 2010, 4:40pm
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Why wasn't anyone other than Boromir and Gollum tempted by the Ring?
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 12:30pm
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Aragorn, Faramir, Gandalf, Galadriel and Sam are all tempted by the Ring
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2010, 1:30pm
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One's reaction to the Temptation of the Ring
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 1:49pm
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To take that analogy further,
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 8:09pm
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So much better
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 3:13pm
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What is temptation?
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FarFromHome
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Jul 12 2010, 4:06pm
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What is magical temptation?
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 4:33pm
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magical temptation
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elostirion74
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Jul 12 2010, 5:04pm
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Hmm.
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 6:21pm
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The function of the Palantirs
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elostirion74
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Jul 13 2010, 6:48am
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It's possible
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 11:45am
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The One Ring's functions are more complex.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 5:07pm
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So you agree that Faramir was not tempted?
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 6:24pm
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I would say that he had the resolve to resist whatever the temptation was.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 7:20pm
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What you describe
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 8:04pm
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Elrond says otherwise
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squire
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Jul 12 2010, 8:32pm
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I see no contradiction.
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 9:04pm
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No point in tempting other hobbits
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CuriousG
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Jul 13 2010, 1:26pm
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I guess you mean
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FarFromHome
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Jul 12 2010, 2:02pm
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I don't understand why you think that Aragorn was not tempted by the Ring
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jul 12 2010, 2:09pm
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You mean at the Prancing Pony?
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FarFromHome
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Jul 12 2010, 3:36pm
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I don't see a basis
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 8:13pm
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Well, I do see a basis
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FarFromHome
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Jul 12 2010, 9:40pm
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I didn't say
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 10:32pm
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I agree with
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FarFromHome
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Jul 13 2010, 8:35am
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"I agree, but ..."
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 11:57am
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Got to quibble.
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FarFromHome
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Jul 14 2010, 1:27pm
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"I do not think that Frodo's was a moral failure."
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 2:06pm
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Thanks for the quote
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FarFromHome
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Jul 14 2010, 5:31pm
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I think I give up.
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 6:37pm
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Magic vs. mechanical devices
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CuriousG
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Jul 14 2010, 6:20pm
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The Rise of the PCs:
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 14 2010, 6:31pm
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No, I meant what I said, but
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 3:42pm
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The Ring Tempts: Individuals react: It is a test
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 3:52pm
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It's remarkably ineffective, then.
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 4:03pm
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A remarkable set of test subjects:
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 4:50pm
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Are the hobbits that exceptional?
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 4:59pm
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Hobbits are exceptional: at least Gandalf says that they are remarkable
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 7:23pm
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Then it is the non-hobbits who are not exceptional?
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 7:53pm
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Those in the story that are in the position to be tempted by the One Ring
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 12 2010, 9:25pm
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The hobbits do not violate the principle of only high powers being tempted by the Ring
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squire
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Jul 12 2010, 10:21pm
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There is also the temptation
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 10:46pm
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It is precisely because they are exceptional that they are
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Curious
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Jul 12 2010, 10:40pm
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Isildur?
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Jul 13 2010, 8:46am
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Isildur is a ringbearer.
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 12:00pm
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Denethor and temptation
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PhantomS
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Jul 12 2010, 2:25pm
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The All Purpose Ring of Wonder: It does everything its creator wanted it to do.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 13 2010, 7:50am
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"Temptation" defined
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CuriousG
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Jul 13 2010, 1:54pm
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Tolkien said
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Curious
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Jul 13 2010, 3:25pm
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He was
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xy
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Jul 13 2010, 5:53pm
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Gimli, Legolas or Merry and Pippin weren't apparently tempted
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 13 2010, 6:19pm
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well
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xy
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Jul 13 2010, 6:32pm
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Isn't there a difference
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 11:16am
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Free will and determinism are both equally true. It is the great paradox.
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 14 2010, 11:57am
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Maybe.
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 12:05pm
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So I concede that the ring is very powerful
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Kangi Ska
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Jul 14 2010, 12:26pm
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Possibly.
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 1:53pm
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How does that work?
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squire
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Jul 14 2010, 3:11pm
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You think Galadriels' tranformation
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 4:34pm
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I'm willing to contemplate that we are getting nowhere
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squire
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Jul 14 2010, 5:16pm
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Why do you think Legolas and Gimli
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Curious
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Jul 14 2010, 6:25pm
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wait...
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xy
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Jul 15 2010, 3:09pm
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Apparently everyone agrees with you.
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Curious
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Jul 15 2010, 4:02pm
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innocence
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PhantomS
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Jul 14 2010, 5:33pm
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