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Jai
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Jun 9 2010, 6:16pm
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Suggestion for GDT & Peter Jackson future "Middle-earth" projects: Numenor & Gondor ?
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Guillermo, It is truly a credit to your integrity that you kindly offered such a thoughtful and detailed explanation for the benefit of LOTR fans on this forum. Other commenters here have already responded eloquently, so in the interests of brevity I won't repeat the excellent points they've made; suffice to say that your directorial input on the forthcoming prequels will be greatly missed, but it's great that you're still on-board in a creative capacity. Apologies in advance if you've already been asked this (or if other commenters have already discussed the idea elsewhere) -- I'm new to this forum and haven't gone through the extensive previous discussions: Have you and Peter Jackson considered collaborating on movies dealing with any of Tolkien's other "prequel" stories ? From a personal perspective, I was thinking that the rise and eventual catastrophic downfall of Numenor has huge scope for a series of movies, possibly on an even grander scale than the phenomenal LOTR trilogy. The following is optional, but maybe it could be supplemented with one or more follow-up films focusing on the founding of Gondor & Arnor, the subsequent war involving the "last alliance of Elves and Men" and the defeat of Sauron, finishing with the death of Isildur and the loss of "the ring". As you no doubt already know, these historical events are summarised in the Appendices of the LOTR book along with The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales. Again, the visual and dramatic scope is absolutely incredible, especially as it would show Numenor and later Gondor at the height of their power and grandeur; it would also place the events of the LOTR trilogy into their proper wider context within Tolkien's overall story arc (including explaining the actual ancestral & "Atlantis" geographical origins of Aragorn's royal dynasty, who & what Sauron actually is, etc etc). The ending would also tie in very nicely with the existing LOTR films along with the impending Hobbit movies. The depiction of the story would obviously have be very carefully thought-out, especially as some sections of it cover thousands of years of history (which would need to be selectively condensed at various points); also, maybe Christopher Tolkien could lend a hand with constructing the actual dialogue in order to realistically expand the often-brief (sometimes non-existent) dialogue summarised in the prequel books, so that it remains faithful to the style of his father's work. Just a friendly suggestion anyway; thanks to your very considerate message on this thread, we're all aware of the reasons you had to withdraw from continuing to direct the Hobbit movies. However, I'm sure that you and Peter Jackson would do a fantastic job if you did eventually decide to make films about the events I've mentioned, and of course there are countless fans worldwide who would be extremely excited to see you both bring this part of Tolkien's Middle-earth story to life in your signature visually-stunning styles. All the best, Jai
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 8:48pm
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pasi: I think that we need to wait to hear from GDT.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 8:58pm
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The explanation
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 9:04pm
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I know it is GDTs explaination but it is a good place to start.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 9:12pm
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-Most Likely
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Pipe Dream
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Jun 3 2010, 11:34pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:43pm
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Eucatastrophy...my secret wish also...//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 11:53pm
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maybe we just need to post it on the Eucatastrophy thread
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Oiotári
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Jun 4 2010, 12:30am
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"we have to wait so many days"
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Oiotári
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Jun 3 2010, 11:01pm
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He did say this week...//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 11:22pm
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yes, I know he did
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Oiotári
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Jun 3 2010, 11:26pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:54pm
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The situation is hardly as simple
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duats
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Jun 3 2010, 9:11pm
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GDT versus Hobbit
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 9:21pm
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I understand
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duats
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Jun 3 2010, 9:24pm
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2- The Hobbit is not so important to GDT to wait a little more?
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Woodyend
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Jun 3 2010, 9:13pm
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RE your issues:
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Elizabeth
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Jun 3 2010, 9:56pm
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I'm confused about the three years versus six years
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 3 2010, 10:33pm
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I assume PJ was speaking off-hand and not being precise.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 10:47pm
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Not being precise is one thing,
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 3 2010, 10:55pm
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Its that Hobbit years versus Human years thingy.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 12:29am
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Just speculation, but perhaps
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Silverlode
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Jun 4 2010, 1:19am
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This seems well thought out and reasonable
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 1:25am
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That's exactly what the TORn press release said
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 10:35am
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I'm still asking myself:
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Theodred
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Jun 4 2010, 8:50pm
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Hobbit project in trouble
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 9:11pm
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A few days ago I've read again the interview in the June 2009 Empire's edition,
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Theodred
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Jun 4 2010, 9:48pm
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Thanks for posting those scans
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R11
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Jun 4 2010, 10:13pm
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Because
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shadowdog
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Jun 4 2010, 10:29pm
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That really is the truth of it
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 6 2010, 2:25pm
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As promised...
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Guillermo
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Jun 6 2010, 7:34pm
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Thank you
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dormouse
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Jun 6 2010, 7:58pm
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I do hope this is not the last we hear from you.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 6 2010, 8:14pm
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Thanks, Guillermo.
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Silverlode
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Jun 6 2010, 8:30pm
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As another convert
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macfalk
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Jun 6 2010, 8:39pm
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All the best to you, Guillermo!
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Patty
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Jun 6 2010, 8:45pm
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You leave footprints
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Magpie
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Jun 6 2010, 9:00pm
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Best of luck to you, Guillermo!
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Altaira
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Jun 6 2010, 9:01pm
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While there is likely to be much that we will never know,
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 9:07pm
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Thank you for taking the time to post here--Wishing you and yours good health and uninterrupted prosperity. //
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7777777
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Jun 6 2010, 9:22pm
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 9:27pm
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Thanks
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sharku
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Jun 6 2010, 9:32pm
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All the best, Guillermo
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Eledhwen
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Jun 6 2010, 10:00pm
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Thanks for all your work and family sacrifice..
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jschomburg
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Good Luck!
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Alex Maglor
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Thank you, Guillermo.
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dernwyn
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Thank your for your care and passion for this project
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Starling
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Jun 6 2010, 10:15pm
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So sorry....
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Mishka
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Jun 6 2010, 10:15pm
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Thank you for your post and for the aknowledgement
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Compa_Mighty
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Jun 6 2010, 10:16pm
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GDT in cameo
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phredegar
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Jun 8 2010, 7:26am
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Oh Yes!! I'd love him to pop up in the story! *high five* //
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 2:37pm
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Thanks ...
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Oscarilbo
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Jun 6 2010, 10:23pm
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you sound like you need some chocolate
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 10:31pm
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Just as...
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Oscarilbo
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Jun 6 2010, 10:37pm
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what kind of supernatural thing did you have in mind?
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 10:48pm
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Thankyou Guillermo ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 10:46pm
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Look forward to seeing you at SDCC
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deej
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Jun 6 2010, 10:47pm
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Thank you
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aranelthehobbit22
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Jun 6 2010, 11:26pm
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As I've said before
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duats
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Jun 6 2010, 11:44pm
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Guillermo, to have such a talented director...
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Huan71
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Jun 6 2010, 11:48pm
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With best wishes for the future and much respect...
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AranNZ
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Jun 7 2010, 12:01am
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I'm not saying 'goodbye'
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Ataahua
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Jun 7 2010, 12:14am
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All the Best to you Memo
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rings7
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Jun 7 2010, 12:43am
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Thank you, and all the best to you, sir
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Ainu Laire
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Jun 7 2010, 1:19am
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I wish you all the best, and
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entmaiden
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Jun 7 2010, 1:27am
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*flying tackle-hug* You're a joy
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 7 2010, 2:23am
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You've been wonderful
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Eldameldo
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Jun 7 2010, 2:49am
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Thanks for everything.
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erugalathon1
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Jun 7 2010, 2:50am
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(J.R.R.Tolkien: ROTK): "Go in peace! I will not say : 'do not weep' for not all tears are evil."
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Ethel Duath
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Jun 7 2010, 3:33am
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Hail and well met, dear friend
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Garfeimao
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Jun 7 2010, 5:12am
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It is a little bit of community agony
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MrCere
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Jun 7 2010, 6:30am
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*raises mug* Hear, hear! *mods up* ///
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 7 2010, 9:30am
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Goodbye for now
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Doriath
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Jun 7 2010, 7:21am
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Sorry To See You Go
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MartyB
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Jun 7 2010, 10:05am
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Special thanks to your family as well
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ElanorTX
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Jun 7 2010, 10:40am
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This is the end of a chapter, not of a book, the story will go on...
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Earl
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Jun 7 2010, 11:04am
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Thanks Guillermo, for all of your input
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Jazmine
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Jun 7 2010, 11:51am
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Thank you, Guillermo - best of luck to you! //
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NottaSackville
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Jun 7 2010, 12:09pm
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Thank you and best wishes!
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hamlet
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Jun 7 2010, 2:31pm
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Thanks for everything!
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Idril Celebrindal
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Jun 7 2010, 3:18pm
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thank you
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Glaurung63
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Jun 7 2010, 5:12pm
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Your reputation is intact
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Rivendweller
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Jun 7 2010, 5:33pm
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Many Thanks
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Oden
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Jun 7 2010, 6:55pm
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thank you very much!
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Galadriel's ring
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Jun 7 2010, 7:16pm
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...
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SirDennisC
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Jun 7 2010, 9:32pm
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A sad farewell...
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galadriel
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Jun 7 2010, 10:26pm
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Your connection
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Vangalad
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Jun 7 2010, 11:20pm
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Many toasts in your honor to be found here!
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weaver
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Jun 8 2010, 12:19am
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Thank you, Guillermo,
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Jun 8 2010, 12:58am
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Thank you Guillermo
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Kelvarhin
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Jun 8 2010, 2:32am
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Thank you, Guillermo
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Finding Frodo
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Jun 8 2010, 3:06am
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Thanks for all you've given to this project, Guillermo.
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Kimi
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Jun 8 2010, 3:26am
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The Road goes ever on and on....
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stormcrow20
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Jun 8 2010, 3:27am
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GdT
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silneldor
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Jun 8 2010, 4:35am
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A simple thank you
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Amandil
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Jun 8 2010, 5:46am
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Thanks
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Donry
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Jun 8 2010, 6:30am
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Farewell in all you do!
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greendragon
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Jun 8 2010, 8:47am
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May the wind under your wings bear you where the sun sails and the moon walks
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_V_
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Jun 8 2010, 3:41pm
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Comments on del Toro's post
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Mark Sommer
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Jun 8 2010, 3:55pm
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My thought has been
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 4:34pm
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Thanks!
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Mark Sommer
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Jun 8 2010, 5:02pm
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my thoughts as well....
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Glaurung63
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Jun 8 2010, 11:37pm
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Thank you Guillermo!
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Buchanicus
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Jun 8 2010, 6:10pm
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Fare-Thee-Well
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willowgreylock
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Jun 8 2010, 8:30pm
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*Tears* Thanks for everything Guillermo, it's all I can say.... *hugs*
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Eruthurin
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Jun 8 2010, 9:50pm
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thanks for everything you have done and we appreciated the respect you have for us here best wishes always//
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tennie75
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Jun 8 2010, 10:49pm
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Sad
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jedihillis
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Jun 9 2010, 12:31am
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Deepest thanks, and may I add
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Tintallë
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Jun 9 2010, 5:12am
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*tears up* I totally understand your decision, and I think most or all of us here do.
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Kyriel
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Jun 9 2010, 10:28am
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GdT a gentleman
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pasi
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Jun 9 2010, 3:51pm
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Suggestion for GDT & Peter Jackson future "Middle-earth" projects: Numenor & Gondor ?
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Jai
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Jun 9 2010, 6:16pm
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Christopher Tolkien is unlikely to assist.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jun 9 2010, 9:06pm
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He might like opera, though
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squire
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Jun 9 2010, 10:52pm
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Doubtful.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jun 10 2010, 12:08am
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Here you go
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 10 2010, 8:55pm
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Wait.. where's the fat lady?
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squire
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Jun 10 2010, 9:28pm
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Well quibbled!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 10 2010, 9:45pm
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Alternative scriptwriters for GDT/Jackson Numenor & Gondor movies ?
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Jai
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Jun 13 2010, 11:23am
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Thank you for all that you've done! //
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Eventides
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Jun 11 2010, 4:58pm
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Good Luck, Guillermo...
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M&M
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Jun 12 2010, 3:57pm
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Thank you ...
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aragons girl
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Aug 25 2010, 1:22am
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:39pm
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Three, four, six, ...
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Elizabeth
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Jun 4 2010, 3:01am
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Good diggin'
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 3:06am
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In my experience as an attorney
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 4:25am
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It's the open-endedness that's the problem.
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Elizabeth
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Jun 4 2010, 7:06am
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Pssst VtF ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 12:00am
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I'm afraid I'm not sure what point you are trying to make
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 12:13am
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I thought it was
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shadowdog
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Jun 6 2010, 2:29am
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No one questions that MGM's finances are a mess
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 3:02am
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No your not ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 9:13am
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You still can
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 1:55pm
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Excellent, Elizabeth
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 10:40am
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It's not the six years that I think is a stretch, its the three years
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:36pm
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If Universal was starting to put the heat on about GdT's commitment to them
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 2:49pm
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That's possible
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:54pm
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Passion for Tolkien
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 3:57pm
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Thank you for your kind words
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 4:24pm
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GdT a great direct
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 4:32pm
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Aha. I see where you're coming from now
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 3:10pm
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It just boils down to one big (insert expletive of choice) mess! //
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 7:20pm
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I feel like the tracks were lost long ago
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Oiotári
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Jun 4 2010, 7:34pm
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We also don't know
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entmaiden
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Jun 4 2010, 1:33pm
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That's not correct
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:30pm
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Regardless, we still don't know
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entmaiden
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Jun 4 2010, 9:06pm
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It was always going to be two movies
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squire
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Jun 4 2010, 9:18pm
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AND, seeing how things
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 2:41pm
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While that does make sense
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 8 2010, 3:37pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:31pm
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Fingers Crossed he changes his mind..
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hobbiton28
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Jun 8 2010, 5:53am
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strike 2 for peter jackson
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nelson forero
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Jun 13 2010, 11:07pm
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