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Instructions to Moria about Frodo

CuriousG
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Apr 30 2010, 12:57pm


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"Did the Moria orcs receive instructions from a nazgul to kill the Fellowship and wake the Balrog?"

You raise a good point. I don't believe the Nazgul knew what Frodo looked like until they attacked him on Weathertop and he put on the Ring. They just knew they were looking for a hobbit named Baggins.

So they're dispersed at the Ford of Bruinen, but not all of them or their horses are accounted for. They clearly withdrew in defeat, as spirits or otherwise.

Now in Moria: Gandalf is troubled that the Watcher goes for Frodo first and the orc-chief in the Chamber of Mazarbul goes straight for Frodo. I'm not convinced they could sense the Ring on him, so it seems someone gave them a detailed physical description of Frodo as the one to target. Who else could do that besides the Nazgul? Well, Bill Ferny and the half-orc in Bree could have done it also, but Bree was a long way from Moria, and it's hard to think that they trotted off there thinking Frodo would pass through it.

Waking the Balrog: I'm not sure anyone needed to. When the dwarves had their big war with the orcs which culminated in the battle outside Moria, Dain pursued Azog right into Moria to kill him, but came back shaken because he had seen the Balrog. I think once awoken, it never went back into hibernation. And being the most powerful figure in Moria, it seems likely he was in command of the orcs there, probably as Sauron's lieutenant. When Glaurung the dragon was wreaking havoc in Nargothrond, he had orcs under his command and could tell them what to do as Morgoth's field agent.

What I find curiously unanswered is why did the Balrog stay hidden in Moria? Only a handful of people could have opposed it, so why hide, almost like it's scared? Why not go about the West causing trouble? Or are Balrog's more like robots who need to be told what to do?



Subject User Time
Who controls Moria FOTR/TT owenj544 Send a private message to owenj544 Apr 29 2010, 6:17pm
    At first I thought this was homework, but as I examined the questions, Curious Send a private message to Curious Apr 29 2010, 8:42pm
    One answer Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Apr 29 2010, 11:35pm
    About the Nazgul quetion why not ask me??? TheNazgul Send a private message to TheNazgul Apr 30 2010, 1:12am
        If the Nazgul were involved... GAndyalf Send a private message to GAndyalf Apr 30 2010, 1:19am
    Some answers and some speculation... GAndyalf Send a private message to GAndyalf Apr 30 2010, 2:09am
    Instructions to Moria about Frodo CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 30 2010, 12:57pm
    Answers sador Send a private message to sador May 2 2010, 12:47pm
        The Watcher made the Pool? squire Send a private message to squire May 2 2010, 2:40pm
            Maybe I was too hasty. sador Send a private message to sador May 2 2010, 2:44pm
            I always thought so. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 2 2010, 2:50pm
            Origin of the Watcher; more on the Balrog--why quiescent for 5 years? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 3 2010, 12:07am
                A party of nine, why the fuss? Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee May 3 2010, 11:24pm
    Myth and Epistemology Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 8 2010, 11:27pm
        And the sound of one hand clapping is... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska May 8 2010, 11:29pm
            seriously... Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 9 2010, 12:03am
                My answer was serious. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska May 9 2010, 12:46am
                    Tolkien was a Mythologist Grotug Send a private message to Grotug May 9 2010, 1:18am
        Good question squire Send a private message to squire May 9 2010, 2:33am
        I would never waste my time on these questions Curious Send a private message to Curious May 9 2010, 10:46am
            Definitive answers? No. Discussion? Yes. CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 10 2010, 12:12pm

 
 
 

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