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CuriousG
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Apr 30 2010, 12:57pm
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Instructions to Moria about Frodo
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"Did the Moria orcs receive instructions from a nazgul to kill the Fellowship and wake the Balrog?" You raise a good point. I don't believe the Nazgul knew what Frodo looked like until they attacked him on Weathertop and he put on the Ring. They just knew they were looking for a hobbit named Baggins. So they're dispersed at the Ford of Bruinen, but not all of them or their horses are accounted for. They clearly withdrew in defeat, as spirits or otherwise. Now in Moria: Gandalf is troubled that the Watcher goes for Frodo first and the orc-chief in the Chamber of Mazarbul goes straight for Frodo. I'm not convinced they could sense the Ring on him, so it seems someone gave them a detailed physical description of Frodo as the one to target. Who else could do that besides the Nazgul? Well, Bill Ferny and the half-orc in Bree could have done it also, but Bree was a long way from Moria, and it's hard to think that they trotted off there thinking Frodo would pass through it. Waking the Balrog: I'm not sure anyone needed to. When the dwarves had their big war with the orcs which culminated in the battle outside Moria, Dain pursued Azog right into Moria to kill him, but came back shaken because he had seen the Balrog. I think once awoken, it never went back into hibernation. And being the most powerful figure in Moria, it seems likely he was in command of the orcs there, probably as Sauron's lieutenant. When Glaurung the dragon was wreaking havoc in Nargothrond, he had orcs under his command and could tell them what to do as Morgoth's field agent. What I find curiously unanswered is why did the Balrog stay hidden in Moria? Only a handful of people could have opposed it, so why hide, almost like it's scared? Why not go about the West causing trouble? Or are Balrog's more like robots who need to be told what to do?
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Who controls Moria FOTR/TT
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owenj544
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Apr 29 2010, 6:17pm
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At first I thought this was homework, but as I examined the questions,
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Curious
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Apr 29 2010, 8:42pm
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One answer
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Apr 29 2010, 11:35pm
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About the Nazgul quetion why not ask me???
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TheNazgul
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Apr 30 2010, 1:12am
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If the Nazgul were involved...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 30 2010, 1:19am
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Some answers and some speculation...
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GAndyalf
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Apr 30 2010, 2:09am
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Instructions to Moria about Frodo
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CuriousG
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Apr 30 2010, 12:57pm
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sador
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May 2 2010, 12:47pm
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The Watcher made the Pool?
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squire
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May 2 2010, 2:40pm
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Maybe I was too hasty.
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sador
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May 2 2010, 2:44pm
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I always thought so.
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N.E. Brigand
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May 2 2010, 2:50pm
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Origin of the Watcher; more on the Balrog--why quiescent for 5 years?
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CuriousG
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May 3 2010, 12:07am
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A party of nine, why the fuss?
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Hamfast Gamgee
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May 3 2010, 11:24pm
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Myth and Epistemology
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Grotug
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May 8 2010, 11:27pm
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And the sound of one hand clapping is...
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Kangi Ska
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May 8 2010, 11:29pm
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seriously...
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Grotug
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May 9 2010, 12:03am
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My answer was serious.
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Kangi Ska
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May 9 2010, 12:46am
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Tolkien was a Mythologist
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Grotug
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May 9 2010, 1:18am
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Good question
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squire
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May 9 2010, 2:33am
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I would never waste my time on these questions
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Curious
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May 9 2010, 10:46am
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Definitive answers? No. Discussion? Yes.
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CuriousG
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May 10 2010, 12:12pm
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