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GAndyalf
Valinor
Mar 25 2010, 3:57am
Views: 14049
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C is for Cerin Amroth: “At the hill’s foot Frodo found Aragorn, standing still and silent as a tree; but in his hand was a small golden bloom of elanor, and a light was in his eyes. He was wrapped in some fair memory: and as Frodo looked at him he knew that he beheld things as they once had been in this same place. For the grim years were removed from the face of Aragorn, and he seemed clothed in white, a young lord tall and fair; and he spoke words in the Elvish tongue to one whom Frodo could not see. Arwen vanimelda, namárië! he said, and then he drew a breath, and returning out of his thought he looked at Frodo and smiled. ‘Here is the heart of Elvendom on earth’ he said, ‘and here my heart dwells ever, unless there be a light beyond the dark roads that we still must tread, you and I. Come with me!’ and taking Frodo’s hand in his, he left the hill of Cerin Amroth and came there never again as a living man.” ---The Fellowship of the Ring, pg 456, Ballentine paperback edition. And though it’s adding additional text, I’m interested in the curious counter of its ‘history’ by the following: “Amroth was King of Lórien, after his father Amdír was slain in the Battle of Dagorlad [in the year 3434 of the Second Age]. His land had peace for many years after the defeat of Sauron. Though Sindarin in descent he lived after the manner of the Silvan Elves and housed in the tall trees of a great green mound, ever after called Cerin Amroth. This he did because of his love for Nimrodel. For long years he had loved her, and taken no wife, since she would not wed with him. She loved him indeed, for he was beautiful even for one of the Eldar, and valiant and wise; but she was of the Silvan Elves, and regretted the incoming of the Elves from the West, who (as she said) brought wars and destroyed the peace of old…” ---Unfinished Tales, pgs 240-1, Houghton-Mifflin hardbound edition. What does each text mean to you? Does the hill’s ‘history’ give any added meaning to the text in Fellowship? Both tell love stories, one of promise the other of tragedy, does it enrich or is it something that can remain “an unexplained vista” to quote many who prefer not to have additional materials? My example is direct quote of those that prefer not to read the Appendices and other “supplemental” writings. Since in the book there is very little mentioned of Arwen (a VERY late addition to the story at all), is it a good enticement to the curiousity about Aragorn, who himself is a bit of an enigma for quite some while in the story? What does Frodo’s vision of Aragorn there mean to you? Is this a bit of “Elvish magic”? To you, how is Cerin Amroth “the heart of Elvendom on earth”? What does it mean that Amroth so loved Nimrodel as to fashion his life as the Silvan Elves to try and woo Nimrodel? What, if anything, does it mean that she could love an elf, yet still hold a grudge of war and destruction of peace based solely on his being among those that came recently to her beloved Lorien? Do the two stories reflect the best and worst of lovers, blest or star-crossed?
"Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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It's Tolkien Reading Day! Post your ABCs of Tolkien here.
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 25 2010, 3:48am
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C is for Cerin Amroth...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 3:57am
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Wow - nicely done!
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NottaSackville
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Mar 25 2010, 11:57am
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<Bows low>
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 1:24pm
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GREAT ELEPHANTS!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 3:27pm
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No problem - it's a common mistake
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NottaSackville
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Mar 25 2010, 3:53pm
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But you did so...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 4:56pm
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A question
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 1:42am
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Yep.//
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Elizabeth
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Mar 27 2010, 3:01am
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As Lady Elizabeth says...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 3:18am
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It *raises* the question...
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Elizabeth
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Mar 27 2010, 4:09am
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<chuckle>
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 5:57am
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A good poet is aware of all levels of meaning in his work.
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 2:32pm
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But he never tells us...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 3:56pm
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A guess...
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Elizabeth
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Mar 27 2010, 6:20pm
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A good poet offers the poem not its meaning
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 6:26pm
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(smile)
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 7:07pm
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Simbelmyne or Evermind in ths common tongue
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 7:16pm
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Thank you!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 7:21pm
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Yes it is about time I reread the Silmarillion. It has been a couple years.//
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 8:09pm
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The Heart of Elvendom on earth
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 8:03pm
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Am I to understand then...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 27 2010, 8:21pm
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A bit more difficult to explain
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 8:41pm
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Cool!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 28 2010, 1:44am
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The perilous realm
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FarFromHome
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Mar 31 2010, 4:22am
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Nicely said! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 31 2010, 2:33pm
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No.
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Night Wolf
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Apr 1 2010, 4:58pm
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Perhaps the place chose them. //
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 2:22pm
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T is for Tolkien
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Magpie
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Mar 25 2010, 4:10am
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Very "British"...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 3:25pm
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British wit
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Magpie
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Mar 26 2010, 1:16am
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"Frank-ness"
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 1:32am
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well...
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batik
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Mar 26 2010, 1:11am
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re: coffee
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Magpie
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Mar 26 2010, 1:14am
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X is for X-Ray vision ...
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NottaSackville
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Mar 25 2010, 4:12am
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LOL at #5 :-) //
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Magpie
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Mar 25 2010, 4:16am
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Interesting question!
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FarFromHome
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Mar 25 2010, 7:21am
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E is for Emission Theory
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Darkstone
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Mar 25 2010, 3:46pm
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Interesting - good to know I wasn't alone...
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NottaSackville
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Mar 25 2010, 3:54pm
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I think....
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 4:54pm
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Light of eyes
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White Gull
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Mar 26 2010, 2:00pm
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The answer to Smaug's powers...
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 2:05am
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P is for Peregrin Took!
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fairelvenlady
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Mar 25 2010, 4:46am
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Give or Took...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 5:20pm
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K is for Kirith Ungol
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Modtheow
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Mar 25 2010, 5:32am
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corrected link
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Modtheow
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Mar 25 2010, 12:33pm
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Tolkien - word pictures.
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Istari68
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Mar 25 2010, 4:16pm
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"Ha, hmm, my friends, let us go for a walk!"...
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batik
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Mar 25 2010, 5:54am
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sidestepping the quiz for a comment on the word Quickbeam
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Magpie
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Mar 25 2010, 1:57pm
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Wow!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 5:32pm
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My son is Rowan
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 27 2010, 3:15pm
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Hmmmm....
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Darkstone
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Mar 25 2010, 7:38pm
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T is for Thursday!
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sador
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Mar 25 2010, 6:10am
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How subversive, satirical and sharp of you
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 7:49pm
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E(ä) is for Eärendil
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Night Wolf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:15am
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Interesting
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 9:13pm
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B is for Beowulf
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 9:35am
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worthy of study
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Modtheow
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Mar 25 2010, 5:56pm
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I'm glad we agree!
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 9:18pm
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Scholarly...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 6:01pm
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Thank you
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 10:33pm
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Yes but don't forget...
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FarFromHome
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Mar 26 2010, 4:52am
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(laughs)
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 1:30pm
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I have to agree
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FarFromHome
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Mar 26 2010, 2:05pm
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Cool stuff!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 4:14pm
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Would that be a stoat?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 26 2010, 5:51pm
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Whoops!
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FarFromHome
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Mar 27 2010, 1:13am
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Regardless of the typo
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SirDennisC
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Mar 27 2010, 3:38am
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F is for Fëanor
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Elizabeth
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Mar 25 2010, 10:03am
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In pity for Feanor...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 6:39pm
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Thank you!
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Elizabeth
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Mar 25 2010, 8:05pm
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I is for Ioreth
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dernwyn
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Mar 25 2010, 10:15am
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I think it says a lot...
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Magpie
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Mar 25 2010, 2:07pm
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Yes, a favourite
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SirDennisC
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Mar 26 2010, 3:42am
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Intriguing idea indeed!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 1:33pm
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Concurring with GAndy
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dernwyn
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Mar 26 2010, 3:43pm
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Ioreth is a fun character.
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fairelvenlady
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Mar 27 2010, 8:26pm
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A little learning...
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FarFromHome
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Mar 28 2010, 1:01am
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From a medieval history syllabus...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 28 2010, 1:51am
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my own favorite quote
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sevilodorf
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Mar 28 2010, 5:43pm
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L is for Lothórien
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drogo
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Mar 25 2010, 10:19am
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through a high window
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Modtheow
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Mar 25 2010, 5:49pm
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I'd never thought about it that way
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Oiotári
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Mar 25 2010, 9:36pm
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Nasmith, for me.
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Elizabeth
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Mar 25 2010, 10:46pm
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Thanks for those links!
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Mar 26 2010, 1:00am
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Middle-earth in HD...
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batik
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Mar 26 2010, 9:16pm
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I guess it depends
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FarFromHome
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Mar 29 2010, 1:09pm
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J is for Josef Stalin
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Pryderi
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Mar 25 2010, 11:36am
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It seems,
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SirDennisC
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Mar 25 2010, 9:32pm
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He does seem to dislike "globalisation" doesn't he?...
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Pryderi
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Mar 25 2010, 11:01pm
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'D' is for Denethor
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Mar 25 2010, 11:38am
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Denethor, son of Ecthelion
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 6:57pm
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W is for Woses!
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Tweezers of Thu
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Mar 25 2010, 12:22pm
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always something new
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Modtheow
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Mar 26 2010, 12:20am
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Oh, yes! Even after 44 years (gasp!)...
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Tweezers of Thu
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Mar 26 2010, 4:58pm
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Ack - they're everywhere!
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NottaSackville
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Mar 26 2010, 12:24pm
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Another example! Flame-eyed Elves!
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Tweezers of Thu
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Mar 26 2010, 5:36pm
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"L" is also for "Letters"
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Elwen
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Mar 25 2010, 1:37pm
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(Soft, benevolent smile for Frodo)
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:17pm
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O is for Olórë Mallë
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Oiotári
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Mar 25 2010, 2:33pm
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Roverandom?
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:23pm
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R is for Rosie
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Mar 25 2010, 3:27pm
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(laughs) Getting two in at once?
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:29pm
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Yep
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Mar 26 2010, 9:23am
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Wish I had your impishness!
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 4:50pm
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Muchos gracias
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Mar 26 2010, 6:59pm
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It's not too far off...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 7:14pm
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Close enough...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 7:21pm
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Marido Oscuro, lol...
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Evernight
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Mar 26 2010, 7:03pm
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<Takes his lumps>
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 7:16pm
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G is for Gandalf
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Nerdanel
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Mar 25 2010, 6:01pm
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At a guess...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:35pm
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laughter
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Modtheow
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Mar 26 2010, 2:33am
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S is for Smith of Wootton Major.
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Evernight
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Mar 25 2010, 6:08pm
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(Daubs tears)
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:44pm
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"Why is Faery important? How important is it to you?"
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SirDennisC
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Mar 26 2010, 4:12am
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A is for Arkenstone!
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entmaiden
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Mar 25 2010, 6:53pm
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Because you asked...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 25 2010, 7:51pm
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It just so happens
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Oiotári
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Mar 25 2010, 8:57pm
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Z is for Zirakzigil
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weaver
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Mar 25 2010, 8:29pm
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"I need no map," said Gimli...
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 25 2010, 9:20pm
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Aha! More Z's!
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weaver
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Mar 25 2010, 9:46pm
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On living rock.
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Pryderi
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Mar 25 2010, 11:34pm
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Zis monument, carved into ze hillside - it is zuspicious, no?
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squire
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Mar 26 2010, 1:53am
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U is for Uolë Kúvion, the Man in the Moon
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Dân o’Nandor-on-Anduin
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Mar 25 2010, 10:43pm
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How charming...
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SirDennisC
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Mar 26 2010, 2:48am
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E is for Erendis
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acheron
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Mar 26 2010, 12:39am
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I really like this story
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Modtheow
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Mar 27 2010, 1:49pm
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V is for Voronwë
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 26 2010, 2:12am
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One of the amazing things about the depth of Tolkien's writing -
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NottaSackville
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Mar 26 2010, 12:48pm
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I remembered...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 4:55pm
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H is for Halfling!
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aranelthehobbit22
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Mar 26 2010, 2:21am
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No worries
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SirDennisC
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Mar 26 2010, 2:30am
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Thank you
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 2:40am
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M is for Morwen
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Saelind
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Mar 26 2010, 2:54am
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The saddest...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 3:18am
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M is for Morwen
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Saelind
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Mar 26 2010, 3:48am
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'H' is for, hip, hip, hooray, everyone!
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Altaira
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Mar 26 2010, 3:33am
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N is for Niggle
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Finding Frodo
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Mar 26 2010, 4:11am
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Whoops!
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Finding Frodo
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Mar 26 2010, 2:33pm
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Niggle and Tasks...
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GAndyalf
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Mar 26 2010, 4:33pm
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Y is for Yggdrasil.
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 26 2010, 6:42am
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How did drasils turn into wargs?
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NottaSackville
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Mar 26 2010, 3:47pm
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A is for N.E. Brigand -
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NottaSackville
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Mar 26 2010, 12:28pm
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Seconded!
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sador
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Mar 26 2010, 12:31pm
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Thirded!
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entmaiden
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Mar 27 2010, 12:09am
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All in favour
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Modtheow
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Mar 27 2010, 1:57pm
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And a big thank-you from me, too
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Lily Fairbairn
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Mar 28 2010, 6:03pm
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Wow! This is great!
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Compa_Mighty
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Apr 4 2010, 7:52pm
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