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Comes across as more than a bit miffed.

Sunflower
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Sep 9 2009, 4:22am


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Comes across as more than a bit miffed. [In reply to] Can't Post

To me it means one of two things, or both:

1)Studios do indeed IMO look at source material that way, and the participation of the author as traditionally a nuisance. The participation of Jo Rowling in the intialstages of planning the HP films was unusual (the studio caving in to her demands that the "Britishness" of the books be preserved, etc.) It's common knowledge that the lowly writer is at the bottom, or near the very bottom, of the Hollywood food chain. This type of arrogance is typical of film studios.
On the other hand, I have a hard time believing that that is really the way they feel about Tolkien the author (as opposed to his descendants.) They saw what the LOTR films accomplished, and I'm sure by now the suits have had time to watch the EE Appendices and appreciate Jackson's serious attention paid to the novel (whatever the resultSly). I can only hope that in this case things may be different and they'll have an attitude of "if it ain't broke, don't break it."
Which leads me to think that that statement might be more indicative of Point 2--

2) Just *how* much money did Warner's have to cough up? I wish to God Voronwe had been able to get his crebain into the room where this missive was drafted and the terms agreed upon! As it is, it's bound to be a HUGE amount to make the TE happy! And since New Line is now part of Warner's, given the state of New Line's shaky finances, there's no way they could have coughed up all that money. Likely most it had to be Warner's money--ironically, if NL had still been independant, then WB would not have to be suffering, by having to fork over an amount of money that I'd guess is going to make signifigant inroads into their 2009 profits.
In the "heat of the moment", as it were, this statement to me smacks less of casual dismissal of Tolkien's books, and more of a rueful "Thanks but no freaking thanks!" A kind of tee'd off (and seething at not being able to show it in public)reply at the high price they're going to have to pay to launch this franchise. ("Mutually productive and beneficial"--ha, ha ha.Sounds like the loser in a Presidential election congradualting the winner. . Right. Laugh)
I don't think they ever thought it would ber this expensive! And if it weren;t for the guarunteed profits AND potential "serious" OScar success (as opposed to simply being "token Nominee Number 10" this might have LOTR's chance), they might have well decided it was more trouble than it was worth, and refused to go along; My guess is that knowing all this, they WILL Indeed swallow their pride, and fork it over.
This statement was more along the lines of a snarky reply to the TE, born out of resentment at the high cost of the settlement. Not to worry folks--but I wish we learn the green-lighting date, and the settlement terms!


(This post was edited by Sunflower on Sep 9 2009, 4:29am)

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Tolkien Trust, New Line & HarperCollins Settle LOTR Lawsuit Oden Send a private message to Oden Sep 8 2009, 6:58pm
    Finally! Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 8 2009, 7:27pm
        You didn't believe VTF last week? {NT} MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Sep 9 2009, 1:18am
            It wasn't confirmed last week. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 9 2009, 1:34am
                More from Nikki Finke Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 9 2009, 4:52am
                    *grin* Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover Sep 9 2009, 5:27am
                Great! Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Sep 10 2009, 1:17pm
    And Now Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 8 2009, 7:40pm
    Glad to see this over and done with! Ainu Laire Send a private message to Ainu Laire Sep 8 2009, 7:43pm
    A rather odd quote from Warner Bros. mwirkk Send a private message to mwirkk Sep 8 2009, 8:10pm
        It does come across as Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Sep 9 2009, 12:18am
            Comes across as more than a bit miffed. Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 9 2009, 4:22am
                That interpretation sounds a little over-emotional. GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Sep 9 2009, 6:17pm
                    "It's business, not personal" Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 10 2009, 12:08am
            As in -- hamlet Send a private message to hamlet Sep 15 2009, 4:37pm
                Oh! Never knew about that Easter Egg!... Thank you!!! :-D // mae govannen Send a private message to mae govannen Oct 16 2009, 6:37am
        "Contributions" Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Sep 9 2009, 7:12am
            Of course... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 9 2009, 7:20am
            You're right, Elizabeth, and I thank you... Patty Send a private message to Patty Sep 9 2009, 3:42pm
            I agree with your observations, Elizabeth. TolkienJackson Send a private message to TolkienJackson Sep 9 2009, 4:13pm
            Not my intent mwirkk Send a private message to mwirkk Sep 9 2009, 10:13pm
    than all we have to do is enjoy this exciting time on TORn! Mithrandír Send a private message to Mithrandír Sep 8 2009, 9:25pm
    Woohoo! Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Sep 8 2009, 9:54pm
    Excellent. Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Sep 8 2009, 10:06pm
    Yes! Hurrah! / Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Sep 9 2009, 12:06am
    Fantastic News! stormcrow20 Send a private message to stormcrow20 Sep 9 2009, 5:48am
        I wonder... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 9 2009, 7:10am
            Yes, that's a lot of money! Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 9 2009, 4:19pm
                Thanks! Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 10 2009, 12:13am
        Glad to post Oden Send a private message to Oden Sep 9 2009, 6:05pm
            This SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 9 2009, 8:46pm
                Right you are... Oden Send a private message to Oden Sep 9 2009, 11:28pm
                    I hesitated SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 10 2009, 1:28am
                    It's good that the official announcement of the finalization of the settlement got it's own thread Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 10 2009, 5:24am
    "We deeply value the contributions of the Tolkien novels to the success of our films..." Earl Send a private message to Earl Sep 9 2009, 7:47am
        Hm... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 9 2009, 8:53am
            The real reason the Estate won sharku Send a private message to sharku Sep 9 2009, 9:10am
    Great news indeed! dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Sep 9 2009, 10:25am
    Maybe now that this obstacle is removed ... BlueMan Send a private message to BlueMan Sep 9 2009, 2:12pm
        Yessss... Bexlin Send a private message to Bexlin Sep 10 2009, 12:25pm
    We are all winners in this situation ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 9 2009, 2:17pm
        I'm sure that part of the settlement is a process to guarantee that the same thing won't happen again Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 9 2009, 3:57pm
            I think I was refering back to this ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 12 2009, 10:37am

 
 
 

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